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or if i wasn't leader i would just disband then proceded to solo right next to em and show what a battle cleric can do ;-) (anything below RSS and MPG that is ;-P)
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With all due respect if you where at a level to solo all bar RSS and MpG you would not be in PoV.
The weakest link are without a doubt the morons, noobs, retards, whatever u want to call them who do mms and farm them and do nothing else. It's completely stupid to me to farm mms when there is a double xp bonus.
You can do just about anything else and get better xp but lazy ppl who do not want to form groups or put in the work to get a good group going will just lfg and sit in hhk and do mms.
Many of these morons will someday try to group normally and will really be the weakest link.
I have found that "tanking" clerics are usually the good ones. That is stupid to call it tanking since they don't tank unless the "real" tank is so bad he can't hold agro.
They melee. And they do really good dps with good weapons like the hammer from 70.4 normal with time lapse. Now, obviously if they are in RSS or tougher and are not healing it is bad, but you would have to be stupid to do that.
The fact is that any good tank does not need constant healing, its just the really bad tanks that need a chc in single group content unless you are doing dod spell mission 70.2 where u need a chc + patches even if anguish geared.
Edited, Mon Jan 23 20:04:16 2006 by TheGreatSieg
You can do just about anything else and get better xp but lazy ppl who do not want to form groups or put in the work to get a good group going will just lfg and sit in hhk and do mms.
Many of these morons will someday try to group normally and will really be the weakest link.
I have found that "tanking" clerics are usually the good ones. That is stupid to call it tanking since they don't tank unless the "real" tank is so bad he can't hold agro.
They melee. And they do really good dps with good weapons like the hammer from 70.4 normal with time lapse. Now, obviously if they are in RSS or tougher and are not healing it is bad, but you would have to be stupid to do that.
The fact is that any good tank does not need constant healing, its just the really bad tanks that need a chc in single group content unless you are doing dod spell mission 70.2 where u need a chc + patches even if anguish geared.
Edited, Mon Jan 23 20:04:16 2006 by TheGreatSieg
TheGreatSieg wrote:
And they do really good dps with good weapons like the hammer from 70.4 normal with time lapse.
That's a rocking good mace.. been trying to get that to drop for our battle shaman.
Our cleric has soft hands and prefers to stand around and heal.
"With all due respect if you where at a level to solo all bar RSS and MpG you would not be in PoV."
toche'
;-)
and as far as the time hammers go, i have two of them (HoHV and the time lapse one), and neither stacks up to the dps put out by the lvl 68 summond hammer :-( . no idea how the time lapse one would be for a shammy tho ;-)
toche'
;-)
and as far as the time hammers go, i have two of them (HoHV and the time lapse one), and neither stacks up to the dps put out by the lvl 68 summond hammer :-( . no idea how the time lapse one would be for a shammy tho ;-)
for casters meleeing only increases DPS there is no reason not to if you have access to a good procing weapon.........
It's great for a wizard(even better for a necro)........ok i could see a chanter not doing it as much.......but tbh i hardly ever group with chanters anymore =/....i have a bard fetish =p
It's great for a wizard(even better for a necro)........ok i could see a chanter not doing it as much.......but tbh i hardly ever group with chanters anymore =/....i have a bard fetish =p
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In this particular case, I did know how to do it better. I sent the advice in a tell to the chanter bascially asking her to mem blur it. She replied with 'Mem blur does not work unless the mob is mezzed and this is unmezzable' and I told her that mem blur works whether it's mezzed or not, she said no it doesn't and I let it drop at that. She was obviously wrong, I gave my input on the situation, giving her the opportunity to possibly learn something new and didn't press it further.
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It was the chanter's uncontrollable pet (didn't have the AAs I assume) that kept attacking.
Memblur works on pets too =D That darn necro not paying attention and has pet on wrong target, a well placed mem blur is all that is needed LOL
Didn't know you could memblur your own pet.
We were doing VS once with a shammy's whose pet decided to get aggro on VS's Remains. I used Atone to calm VS Remains but pet would not let go. Not sure what was up so I told everyone to back off, wait for remains to kick pet's ***, then Atone. It worked.
All I was saying it is usually better not to try convince others how to play their class. Even if you are right.
We were doing VS once with a shammy's whose pet decided to get aggro on VS's Remains. I used Atone to calm VS Remains but pet would not let go. Not sure what was up so I told everyone to back off, wait for remains to kick pet's ***, then Atone. It worked.
All I was saying it is usually better not to try convince others how to play their class. Even if you are right.
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Int casters should melee(unless unable to due to the mobs AEs or what not)
tarv of the Seven Seas wrote:
If i want to melee i will log on my Pally.
if i have an abundance of mana, i'll nuke that way i can still keep an eye out for whats going on, no point having CC if the CC doesn't spot the add for all the flashing blades.
if i have an abundance of mana, i'll nuke that way i can still keep an eye out for whats going on, no point having CC if the CC doesn't spot the add for all the flashing blades.
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Bards don't seem to have a problem with meleeing and keeping an eye out for adds >_>
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for casters meleeing only increases DPS there is no reason not to if you have access to a good procing weapon.........
It's great for a wizard(even better for a necro)........ok i could see a chanter not doing it as much.......but tbh i hardly ever group with chanters anymore =/....i have a bard fetish =p
It's great for a wizard(even better for a necro)........ok i could see a chanter not doing it as much.......but tbh i hardly ever group with chanters anymore =/....i have a bard fetish =p
I use
Wand of Temporal Power. I auged it with a chaotic strike aug for stuns.
With my crit aas and Mana Flare I can get a 3k proc. It procs often and doing 1.5k dmg is on the low end. As far as CC goes ask anyone who's grouped with me. I have the add locked right before I hear anyone in group say 'add'. I know the mob is there before anyone else.
Battle chanters are rare but they can do so if they want. Their primary job is CC, debuff/slows, and group buffs. After that let them do whatever they want even if it means getting in the mobs face.
I agree with elorian INT casters can get some nice procs. I seen a proc weapon from DoD that is a 1.5k proc. That's nothing to shy away.
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All I was saying it is usually better not to try convince others how to play their class. Even if you are right.
Totally agree there. I offer my opinion on something with my reasoning then drop it. It's not worth arguing about because people are either open to new perspectives/ideas or they aren't. Though I'm always open to a discussion about something if the other person isn't being obstinate.
As far as mem blur, possibly one of the most underutilized tools in the game. I have used it for CC on unmezzable but rootable mobs before. Pull them away from grp, root it, pacify it mem blur it. If all works right, it walks away when root breaks. This is assuming a few things. 1. Pacify stays up 2. Mem blur sticks 3. Everyone is out of pacified aggro radius 4. Everyone is not in the pathing of where the mob will walk when root breaks.
I've had it in my head awhile to try to redo the Coldain prayer shawl quest just to see if I could solo it with mem blur and pacify and not actually fight anything. Doubt I'll ever get around to that, though.
Memblur will stick almost 100% with all the blur aas. However casting it on a mob can agro non-agroed mobs in it's radius.
Edited, Wed Jan 25 13:30:54 2006 by MentalFrog
Edited, Wed Jan 25 13:30:54 2006 by MentalFrog
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Memblur will stick almost 100% with all the blur aas. However casting it on a mob can agro non-agroed mobs in it's radius.
I've been debating on getting all those or not. With 100% chance to stick or even close to that, I will have to take another look at my AA priorities now.
Kinda hijacked this thread, so I'll create a new post on melee DD procs for casters as I have a few questions if someone has time on that.
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