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CPUs for EQ .... AMD vs IntelFollow

#1 Feb 28 2006 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
Let's here from you. Tell me what your preference is for your EQ gaming experience.














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Edited, Tue Feb 28 12:31:50 2006 by Brellik
#2 Feb 28 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
For this subject, preferences and facts are entirely seperate. No one- and I mean no one- knows which EQ programming runs better on. This is to include the programmers.

I'm quite sure EQ was designed with Intel in mind, but with how many technical issues they have, chip perference programming is the last thing on their mind in the actual creation stages.

This said, you're also comparing brand names.. and asking which is best suited to do a task. So, what's better for towing a heavy ton of rocks: a Ford or a Chevy? Or, to drive it home, this sort of question is much like:
Who's better at Science: a white man or a black man? Let's hear your opinions!

There's far too many variables for any generalization or trend to be drawn. Anyone who thinks elsewise.. well, I have a lucky Rusty Long Sword to sell you.
#3 Feb 28 2006 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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A great deal of dedicated gamers swear by AMD, I among those. While AMD's clock speed does show lower, it is generally shown to be a bit faster and better for games in various different tests. I can't explain the exact reasons for this at the moment, but I assure you that its been proven in some way or another ;)

Thats not to say Intel isn't good, in fact its great... For servers.

So to recap: AMD for games, Intel for servers.
#4 Feb 28 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Has anyone played EQ for a good period of time on an AMD and an Intel chip to get a good comparison?

In my experience, when I get a new computer I tend to go with the same chip manufacturer as I had before. So I'll probably only ever experience EQ on my Intel chips.

EQ runs fine for me. Plus, even if you choose AMD or Intel lots of other hardware affects EQ performance - video card, hard drive, etc. And just for me, EQ isn't the type of game where I am worried about squeezing out an extra 5 FPS or cutting down the zone-times by a second or two.


Edited, Tue Feb 28 15:30:02 2006 by JoltinJoe
#5 Feb 28 2006 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
My knowledge is very limited but I just had a gaming computer built and the only thing I got out of it was that AMD was the first to support SLI (that's where you daisychain 2 video boards together) but not too long ago Pentium also went SLI.

Although I'm not opposed to AMD, I went with Pentium because of product recognition. It seems to work just fine.

#6 Feb 28 2006 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
In the case of AMD vs Intel.... true difference comes down to cost.

Benchmarks are benchmarks and if they are comparable you will probably not notice the difference.

However several folks have also pointed out that all the other peripherals in a machine WILL change your perceived performance.

Any apps running in the background will as well. Maintenance also.

Too many variables, too little time.
#7 Feb 28 2006 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
I always buy AMD just because Intel is way too expensive. Just think how much more expensive Intel would be if there wasn't any competition from AMD? I've had both AMD boxes and Intel boxes and not seen any difference at all.
#8 Feb 28 2006 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
It. Does. Not. Matter.
Quit. Encouraging. This. Thread.

I've played on both Intel's and AMD's.. owning a number myself. They're BRANDS. They make chips that are ENTIRELY different from eachother.


I'm sorry.. just this subject is a pet peeve. People are always asking "what brand is your computer?" when that doesn't matter. Its the freaking chip, motherboard, memory, bus, etc, that make a computer, not the god damned brand. Same thing for the god damned chip.

I can show you AMD and Intel processers that will both run the game well and be too slow to even load the damned thing before the computer crashes. Its the make, model, etc. Quit trying to judge things based off brand!
#9 Mar 01 2006 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
This thread is intended to be a poll on what players are currently using in their systems.(period) . If this thread irritates certain players...please just skip over it.
















#10 Mar 01 2006 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
That's cool. I don't mind sharing my preference on this. I prefer using AMD. I have an AMD athlon 64 FX-57. This thing rocks. Probably over kill for EQ but I play WOW and a few other online games as well. This is the best single-threaded processor out there now. AMD is without a doubt the superior brand of processors for gaming. However any decent Intel cpu will do for EQ.




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#11 Mar 01 2006 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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AMD clock speed is lower than Intel but perform most tasks as fast or faster for one simple reason. The pathing through the chip is shorter on the AMD. I prefer the AMD for gaming as well. A great benefit to a slower clock speed is that AMD chips run cooler.

I run an AMD Athalon XP64 3400 with stock cooling. But my vid card (nVidia 6600GT)has an elaborate copper heatsink cooling set up. The CPU simply doesn't need it. Along with 1 meg of DDR400 RAM and cable internet I rarely get lag, generally in the bazaar or PoK with a high concentration of PC's in a small area.
#12 Mar 01 2006 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
Naw, this thread was meant as "preference" over which is better, not a poll over which a user does use. It irritates me so badly because it degenerates the general understanding of computers and furthers how much I have to explain computers to people when I tutor them. Anything that detracts from the knowledge base of the average reader is an audicity to me. Still, I suppose this is a game site and people are here to hide from reality anyhow, so I'll leave it be. I can't claim to like facing it head-on all of the time myself, anyhow.

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1 meg of DDR400 RAM

I'm pretty sure Javious meant "1 gig" here. The DDR400 is short for DDR (a type of RAM) @ 400Mhz (a speed: 400,000,000 operations per second).

I have the same type of chip in my laptop.. the Athlon64. Not sure if mine's the 3200 or 3400, though.. I think its the 3400@3.2ghz, and this is why I get the two confused. Mobile version, of course.. the real one would eat through my battery even faster than this one does. Still, even the mobile version gives my laptop a battery life of one hour! (The graphics card isn't helping with the power-consumption factor, either.) Still, I take it from class to class with me. I need it to run the Engineering programs, CAD's, I use in my courses. They make EQ look like Notepad, computer-resource wise. So, anyhow, battery just keeps it on while I move it to my next class. An hour to get from one class to another is generally more than enough.
#13 Mar 01 2006 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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It irritates me so badly because it degenerates the general understanding of computers and furthers how much I have to explain computers to people when I tutor them


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Not sure if mine's the 3200 or 3400, though..


maybe you shouldn't be doing the tutoring...
#14 Mar 01 2006 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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I have been using Intel for about 5 years - updating them about every 2 years. The most recent update I went to SLI on the video cards and an asus board, but with an intel chip. Therefore I can't really compare the 2 brands, However my wife and I have 6 boxes that are all intel with the exception of the 1 Asus board.

We have NO lag anywhere in the game and hve zone times in the neighborhood of 30 seconds - sometmes fster, depending on the zone we're going into.

I don't think it has anything to do with the brand - just how high level your system is. Which unfortunately, depends on how much you can afford to spend on a system. I can remember, however, not being able to move in the early Bazaar without going into overhead view. That was what got me into building my own systems-which I managed to do with a lot of help from folks on this forum before the tech forum was started.

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#15 Mar 01 2006 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
I'd vote AMD hands down. Just personal preference. Over the last year, Intel's been wasting time trying to crank up its clock speeds while AMD has focused instead on improving the entire architecture of their chips, and have leapfrogged well past Intel in chip speed and power.

Get an AMD 64 and you'll be a happy duck with EQ. Just make sure you have plenty of RAM and a beefy video card to handle the inefficient and buggy EQ graphics.
#16 Mar 01 2006 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
jrmayii wrote:
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It irritates me so badly because it degenerates the general understanding of computers and furthers how much I have to explain computers to people when I tutor them


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Not sure if mine's the 3200 or 3400, though..


maybe you shouldn't be doing the tutoring...


If you think forgetting which make of a specific model of a chip you have in one of your seven computers is something even worth commenting on, you have serious issues.
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