Okay - I am (relatively) new to the game - I have only been playing a few months, and my highest level character is a lvl 33 Wizard.. I love playing a wizard; there's just something SO satisfying about sending a nuke to a monster and watching it blow up.. But I digress....
My problem with my wizard is his paper armor.. It may as well be paper anyway, as I can be killed on the spot by anything, anywhere, at any time.
Shields make no difference -- I always use every buff I have.. Doesn't make a difference... Yesterday a GREEN killed me.. I couldn't nuke him enough times before he got to me, and my very expensive, very nice staff hit him like I was swinging with wet flowers. And the #$&*@# killed me. Unbelievable.
Why is it that a wizard can't (at the very least) wear leather armor?? I mean really.. Soft leather / cloth - No big diff 'cept ye don't DIE every 2 seconds.
I love playing a wizard, but I'm seriously considering changing, as I'm tired of dying like a great PU***...
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I disagree, I have two eldritches (one full void, 1 full mana) andI never have a problem with my crappy armor for two reasons:
1. Buffs: Now I can't speak for the wizards but Eldritches have an Af Buff and an Abs buff that brings my defense up to just under what light tanks have unbuffed. Add to that a blade turn and I rarely ever die to melee unless I really ***** up.
2. Range: It is very rare that (at least in PvE) that I get killed by anything less than orange con, and certainly not to a green, since it dies before it gets close enough to melee. In fact I usually ONLY solo yellows (with void eldy) since the downtime is nearly the same as it is for blue cons.
I would question how you're playing, are you using your stun (I assume you have one)? Are you getting to max range before you start nuking? Whats your spec? Did you split spec or are you full fire/ice whatever?
1. Buffs: Now I can't speak for the wizards but Eldritches have an Af Buff and an Abs buff that brings my defense up to just under what light tanks have unbuffed. Add to that a blade turn and I rarely ever die to melee unless I really ***** up.
2. Range: It is very rare that (at least in PvE) that I get killed by anything less than orange con, and certainly not to a green, since it dies before it gets close enough to melee. In fact I usually ONLY solo yellows (with void eldy) since the downtime is nearly the same as it is for blue cons.
I would question how you're playing, are you using your stun (I assume you have one)? Are you getting to max range before you start nuking? Whats your spec? Did you split spec or are you full fire/ice whatever?
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Oh yeah -- Absoultely; I use the stun wich works (sometimes) - sometimes they resist it.
And in most cases I am at maximum range before I start nukin' 'em. I'm not whining, I love my character, I just needed to get it off my chest about being killed so easily.. hehe
And I *always* have full buffs on.. But honestly they don't seem to make a heck of a difference.
Now - I complained about being killed by a green - keep in mind that is not the norm lol - It happened yesterday and I was just shocked that I was killed by a GREEN, hehe -- Although sometimes I can kill a yellow, but it will kill me if it resists my stun.. (It'll get to me before I can get out enough nukes to fry the bas****.) So - unfortunately, when I'm out alone I just stick with blue/greens.. (YAWN !!!)
Hehehe
And in most cases I am at maximum range before I start nukin' 'em. I'm not whining, I love my character, I just needed to get it off my chest about being killed so easily.. hehe
And I *always* have full buffs on.. But honestly they don't seem to make a heck of a difference.
Now - I complained about being killed by a green - keep in mind that is not the norm lol - It happened yesterday and I was just shocked that I was killed by a GREEN, hehe -- Although sometimes I can kill a yellow, but it will kill me if it resists my stun.. (It'll get to me before I can get out enough nukes to fry the bas****.) So - unfortunately, when I'm out alone I just stick with blue/greens.. (YAWN !!!)
Hehehe
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.. Wow... Did that make sense? For the love of God, where's my coffee.. My brain's still asleep...
Don't worry, it made sense ;-).
I understand what you mean about being killed easily by melee, it happens. But thats the price you pay for being a caster that does uber damage. If you could do the level of damage we casters do at range AND be as melee friendly as a tank/light tank then we would be so overpowered no one would even bother with melee toons.
Just for reference, at level 41 with AF and ABS armor buffs my eldy had something like 450 AF (non-toa/non-SC'd gear), thats comparable to a light tank or maybe even a 2-hand tank.
I understand what you mean about being killed easily by melee, it happens. But thats the price you pay for being a caster that does uber damage. If you could do the level of damage we casters do at range AND be as melee friendly as a tank/light tank then we would be so overpowered no one would even bother with melee toons.
Just for reference, at level 41 with AF and ABS armor buffs my eldy had something like 450 AF (non-toa/non-SC'd gear), thats comparable to a light tank or maybe even a 2-hand tank.
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Hehehe -- I certainly hope things get better as far as this issue is concerned.. But " do nae worry, I'll not be givin' up my character that easily! "
:-) I love the game too much to give it up for something like this.. And to be honest, most of the reason I play isn't for battle, it's to explore, socialize and eventually be able to play RvR.. (My guild leader took me to watch a grand battle in RvR and it was incredible.. Can't wait!!)
:-) I love the game too much to give it up for something like this.. And to be honest, most of the reason I play isn't for battle, it's to explore, socialize and eventually be able to play RvR.. (My guild leader took me to watch a grand battle in RvR and it was incredible.. Can't wait!!)
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Well... it could be worse... I think my enchanter's been killed by greys twice (blue aggro'd on the {low-health} pet while we were running, and when he defended himself, the blue's grey friends finished off the pet and ... well... our armor *is* barely existent and the blade turn only works once...)
Still - can't complain when it's usually so nice to kill things before they even come close :)
Still - can't complain when it's usually so nice to kill things before they even come close :)
Pfft! WTF are you letting the mobs get that close? You have root. Use it. Use your quick cast to cast the root. Then back away and nuke it some more. Rinse and repeat.
You have root, use it. Quick cast that baby. Back away and then nuke again. Rinse and repeat.
Nice dbouble post. kinda. rofl.
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Sigh.. Once again the immature in the realm speak up.. Thank you for your.. advice.. Yeah, I have root, yeah I use root, yeah it doesn't work for crap.. How about this.. Instead of "WTF" just simply state your opinion.. The world doesn't need *yet another* smartass...
I am a smart ***, get over it. Its not my fault you cant play your character. Personally, I have a 50 fire wiz and Ice Root is your friend. There is no reason you shouldnt be able to get it off on the second try. I solo'd the last couple of levels to 50 with root in AC. Dont tell me I dont know what Im talking about. I trained 50 fire and the rest in earth, so no ice training and my ice root still works. Get a good distance away, as far as you can and cast your two nukes, your two blasts, quick cast root, back away and cast nukes again. With your shields and one free hit bubble up you should be able to cast root atleast twice. If you cant do this, then find a group because your gimp.
Yeah servers were acting up last nite, it wasnt showing my first post. So I reposted.
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Ok, I was about to go to bed after just casually reading some questions and thowing in my 2 cents on a couple subjects and asked some questions of my own, because despite having a 50 ice wiz and a 50 matter sorc, I am still fully aware I don't know everything about this game. So you have a 50 fire wiz, so what, stfu. If you've truly played DAoC you'd realize that you are NOT EVER invincible. And if you truly know about the ice root, you'd know that it only works one target, thus your little ice root quickcast idea won't work when you have multiple aggro on you because it'll take awhile for quickcast to recharge. Instead of being a smartass who thinks you have all the answers, how about growing up a little.
Ok... fire wizard extrodanaire incoming..
Listen. If your going to play one of Albion's finest classes, atleast have the decency to learn the game. You said you wear paper armor, did you buy this at a merchant or is it a dropped item? You need to enhance your dexterity and your quickness. This will help you cast faster and less chance of being interupted. Greens should not hit you faster than you can cast. If this is a problem you should tattoo gimp to your forehead. Root is your friend, its that nice one that looks like a block of ice. Im gonna give you a nice hint here. So listen carefully and PAY ATTENTION!
NUKE-NUKE-ROOT-RUN-NUKE-NUKE this is the basic line for newbie wizards. When you get good like me it will look more like;
NUKE-NUKE-BLAST-BLAST-QUICKSPELL-ROOT-RUN-NUKE-NUKE-BLAST for red and oj's. Always use all 4 of your buffs. DO NOT USE THE MAGMA SHIELD! It is for tanks only. It helps them keep the aggro.
and if you are using aoe blast you had better be over lvl 40 and have your aoe root on hand. This can be done. My guildies and I tend to power level at the marrooned vikings quite a bit. They come in 3's and 4's. AOE ROOT. We also tend to play at the pygmies in lyonesse quite a bit. AOE ROOT again. If you know anything about these camps at all you will know these baffle. At the vikings a necro pulls, 3 come, I aoe root. The necro picks em off one by one. This technique also works on the zombies in SI. The pigmies.. a cabi and I do this alone. No tanks. She sends in her pet while out of group.. pet gets all aggro of 20+ pigmies, she aoe dots, accept group invite and then runs. I aoe root, aoe dot, follow the cabi in running. They all die in a matter of 5 seconds. Nice way to pl people. I am 50 fire/20 earth.
Edited, Tue Oct 12 13:26:44 2004 by Cherrabwyn
Listen. If your going to play one of Albion's finest classes, atleast have the decency to learn the game. You said you wear paper armor, did you buy this at a merchant or is it a dropped item? You need to enhance your dexterity and your quickness. This will help you cast faster and less chance of being interupted. Greens should not hit you faster than you can cast. If this is a problem you should tattoo gimp to your forehead. Root is your friend, its that nice one that looks like a block of ice. Im gonna give you a nice hint here. So listen carefully and PAY ATTENTION!
NUKE-NUKE-ROOT-RUN-NUKE-NUKE this is the basic line for newbie wizards. When you get good like me it will look more like;
NUKE-NUKE-BLAST-BLAST-QUICKSPELL-ROOT-RUN-NUKE-NUKE-BLAST for red and oj's. Always use all 4 of your buffs. DO NOT USE THE MAGMA SHIELD! It is for tanks only. It helps them keep the aggro.
and if you are using aoe blast you had better be over lvl 40 and have your aoe root on hand. This can be done. My guildies and I tend to power level at the marrooned vikings quite a bit. They come in 3's and 4's. AOE ROOT. We also tend to play at the pygmies in lyonesse quite a bit. AOE ROOT again. If you know anything about these camps at all you will know these baffle. At the vikings a necro pulls, 3 come, I aoe root. The necro picks em off one by one. This technique also works on the zombies in SI. The pigmies.. a cabi and I do this alone. No tanks. She sends in her pet while out of group.. pet gets all aggro of 20+ pigmies, she aoe dots, accept group invite and then runs. I aoe root, aoe dot, follow the cabi in running. They all die in a matter of 5 seconds. Nice way to pl people. I am 50 fire/20 earth.
Edited, Tue Oct 12 13:26:44 2004 by Cherrabwyn
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Just an odd quick question..If a green could kill you that fast, is it because you forgot to buy your con back? I did that with my bard, put me out 300 gold, but i stopped dieing.
Yes, casters have weak armor. It is an offset to the powerful spells they get. They are not meant to melee. If blues and yellows are resisting your nukes a lot, it might be because you have spread your spec points too thin across your spell lines. If your primary line is close to your level, you should not be getting many resists at all. Also, the more equipment you have with pluses to your primary spell line, the less resists you should encounter. Focus staves help with mana conservation.
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Just an observation here...
I never noticed a Wiz w/ stun.
I never noticed a Wiz w/ an AOE DoT.
If you're heavy fire, the only AOE root available to you will be a low level Earth one, which will be very short duration and get resisted a lot due to the low level.
If it's a bad pull and you RUN and then ROOT you've just wasted endurance... ROOT and then RUN so that while you RUN they don't.
If you're solo and using AE direct damage spells to hunt you better expect to die --plain and simple. Yes nukers get away with it all the time and do well, but they also die and have learned not to be surprised at it.
I've played casters enough to know well how fragile they are. But even in crap drop gear mine have always lasted a couple whacks from yellows. I find it hard to believe that a green that'd already been nuked a couple times couldn't be outrun and re-nuked. If you are standing your ground and meleeing you deserve to die.
I never noticed a Wiz w/ stun.
I never noticed a Wiz w/ an AOE DoT.
If you're heavy fire, the only AOE root available to you will be a low level Earth one, which will be very short duration and get resisted a lot due to the low level.
If it's a bad pull and you RUN and then ROOT you've just wasted endurance... ROOT and then RUN so that while you RUN they don't.
If you're solo and using AE direct damage spells to hunt you better expect to die --plain and simple. Yes nukers get away with it all the time and do well, but they also die and have learned not to be surprised at it.
I've played casters enough to know well how fragile they are. But even in crap drop gear mine have always lasted a couple whacks from yellows. I find it hard to believe that a green that'd already been nuked a couple times couldn't be outrun and re-nuked. If you are standing your ground and meleeing you deserve to die.
We don't suck, where underestimated and we dont stick together, for example............a chanter and a menty make a kick azz team ive noticed
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Hehehe -- Wow.. I posted that message ages ago. Of course my opinion has changed since then. I love my Fire wiz, but I also enjoy playing my Friar. I still have a problem with them not allowing wizards to wear leather armor at the very least, but hey.. oh well.. I've recently purchased catacombs, and I'm having a hell of an awesome time.
OK, so this is an old thread & all, & I haven't played DAoC in a long time now, but what the heck, I'm bored, so I thought I'd comment. Lucky you.
Anyway, when I was playing, I had a level 37 Alb Wizzie. I had screwed up & tried to keep Ice & Fire at 2/3 level. Stupid move, which I was trying to correct when I last played. My point is that I didn't have as strong a Wizzie as I should have had; he had no really special gear, & was basically very average.
I never died to a green-con mob, unless I screwed up badly. I hunted mostly dark blue & yellow-cons, sometimes orange; greens, mostly, weren't even worth my time, I got so little xp from them. So, I solo'd tougher mobs. Here's what I did:
A. Start from absolute max range, fire Nuke 1, immediately queue up Nuke 2.
B. As Nuke 2 is casting, queue in Root. The mob will be Rooted, & the Root will wear off on your next nuke. However ...
C. Assuming Nukes 1 & 2 hit for acceptable damage, Nuke 3 will likely finish the mob off, or at least slow it to the point that you will kill it with Nuke 4.
D. Rinse & Repeat.
If I missed with either of Nukes 1 or 2, or the Root got resisted, or something else went wrong, I usually just ran. It's not worth dying if you don't have to. Using these tactics, I was easily able to solo, even with my gimped Wizzie, in Cornwall & Lyonesse for decent xp & drops. Of course, this was about 2 years ago, but I'd be surprised if things have changed all that much now.
I miss my Wizzie & am thinking of coming back to DAoC :)
Anyway, when I was playing, I had a level 37 Alb Wizzie. I had screwed up & tried to keep Ice & Fire at 2/3 level. Stupid move, which I was trying to correct when I last played. My point is that I didn't have as strong a Wizzie as I should have had; he had no really special gear, & was basically very average.
I never died to a green-con mob, unless I screwed up badly. I hunted mostly dark blue & yellow-cons, sometimes orange; greens, mostly, weren't even worth my time, I got so little xp from them. So, I solo'd tougher mobs. Here's what I did:
A. Start from absolute max range, fire Nuke 1, immediately queue up Nuke 2.
B. As Nuke 2 is casting, queue in Root. The mob will be Rooted, & the Root will wear off on your next nuke. However ...
C. Assuming Nukes 1 & 2 hit for acceptable damage, Nuke 3 will likely finish the mob off, or at least slow it to the point that you will kill it with Nuke 4.
D. Rinse & Repeat.
If I missed with either of Nukes 1 or 2, or the Root got resisted, or something else went wrong, I usually just ran. It's not worth dying if you don't have to. Using these tactics, I was easily able to solo, even with my gimped Wizzie, in Cornwall & Lyonesse for decent xp & drops. Of course, this was about 2 years ago, but I'd be surprised if things have changed all that much now.
I miss my Wizzie & am thinking of coming back to DAoC :)
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