did 1.0 have "complex" quests?Follow

By "complex" I mean talk to an NPC.. find a ??? and get as key item for it... or sawn an nm tat 100% dropped an item for teh quest etc etc or was it just the standard WoW variety of "kill xxxx amount of enemies" or get "xxx amount of drops from killing certian enemy"?

WHAT ABOUT QUESTS TYHAT INVOLDED FIGHTING AND KILLING A FORCED SPAWN NMS (KIND ALIKE THE AF WEAPON QUESTS IN FFXI)

opps caps was on -_-

Ill go ahead and make a guess he posted it from his mobile phone, and i know its a pain to re type it. :P

I've always believed that I should be able to highlight a letter, or even an entire section, and change the case of all letters by simply hitting the shift key.

yay soo then ALL of ARR (hopefully) wont be WoW like "kill xxx mobs" quests.

Because the one i described (with the ???) is more like a traditional offline RPG side quest.. i.e talk to npc to get quest which consist of finding some item in a location you may have to fight your way through (or sneak and invis) to touch a ??? which will either give you an item or spawn a monster which you have to fight to get item then return to NPC.

Whereas the other is "go outside and kill 10 sheep" or "go outside and collect 10 sheep wools" which might require slaughtering 20 sheep because wools arent 100% drops. Which would get dull in repetitive ever EVERY quest was like that with tehy only change beiking the type or mob you gotta kill xxx times. whereas ffxi had a mixture or BOTH types of quests

except when youre so high level that the spiders dont even give xp lol

hecause you wanna complete every quest? or dealing with taht quest unlo ksa quest that gives rewards you DO want etc etc

Nothing like paying a company to sprinkle a little work into my entertainment that I go to work to pay for.

Lol, this is so very true! I personaly could go through doing it because I havnt played enough MMOs to be burnt out on it yet, but back whe I played Cabal for 3-4 months every quest was like that but they threw in generic dungeons inbetween. I wont lie though I loved the flashy moves! But because I didnt want to pay anything for the game it took forever to get the skills :( ..

Anyways! I dont like that trains and airships/ships dont let you walk around on them while they fly to the destination. From what I understand you only get a cs and you are in the next zone where the ship lands.. I understand some people dont want to wait and dont want any downtime..

Its Just that.. I remember when I first got access to airships after getting the Kazham keys I was going nutz looking over the edge of the airship and going to the deck or control room looking out the window.. Or the pirates attacking the boat and me being low level going out like a boss to fight and getting owned 30 seconds later.. Just kinda sucks its just a cs then your at your destination.. Seems like it takes away from the very emersion of the game that they are trying to create..


Edited, Apr 4th 2013 9:22pm by SaitoMishima

That's why he wrote it as "complex" and not complex. Means something more than mindlessly slaughtering 1-5 of x animal or trading item to x spot to pop the same monster over and over for every single quest you come across. Something that actually follows a story flow and the story actually cuts in while in your quest, for example in FFXI there were some quests where you reached the ??? you get a cutscene that gave you story. With the majority of quest based MMOs, that's not likely, even with main storylines, you're usually on a fetch quest even for a main story. How is killing 9 marmots supposed to tell me about Dalamud and the Garleans?

Yes! Yes, exactly! It's the fact that these MMO "quests" are too bare-bones to be called such, and because they become stale incredibly quickly, that their presence is so annoying.

Give simple, grinding-type content without a story for exp. purposes, and give interesting narratives to quests. If you give a narrative with every little task, then we just get 200 forgettable walls of text that involve poor excuses to hack at monsters spawning right next to us. It's a poor design, it's a poor story and, worst of all, it's not even fun to play through!