When can we expect a ZAM update?Follow

Let me find out what I can say officially and I'll reply to this later this evening.

I'm not talking about speaking with Yoshi and co, I'm talking about asking my bosses what I'm allowed to divulge with regard to what Zam will be doing for ARR's launch.

Oooh. Now I'm intrigued.

Poor Wint is under double (NDA) right now.

He technically violated the ZAM NDA by divulging that there may be something going on ^.~ The first rule about the NDA is ____________________________

I hope it's a complete forum wipe. While MMO's change over time, there's so much speculation/false and old 1.0 info on here that I think 2.0 would benefit from a fresh start.

I disagree.

I think they should offer free membership to everyone who uses the FFXIV forum while apologizing and promising to make it better. Then, while making marginal improvements over several months, reveal that they've been secretly working on ZAM FFXIV Forum 2.0 and they need our subscription dollars now to make it a success. Everyone who subscribes early will get a lifetime discount rate and a special chocobo avatar that proves you were there when it all happened.

Oh and Wint needs to take up heavy smoking and coffee drinking.

Well I can't say anything definite yet. What else would you guys like to see? FFXIVHead? New forums? Other things that I'm not thinking of?

My vote would be Mog-head actually

This. I've been on Zam since it was Allakhazam. Used it for FFXI in the beginning, then eventually moved to the WoW forums. Once Zam bought Wowhead, the Zam WoW forums died. There are a few of us still posting there, but its been a ghost town for a very long time.

So I vote for a total housecleaning of this forum since it is designated an official FFXIV forum, archive the old stuff, but don't go the [FFXIVwhatever]head route pls. I never liked Wowhead. If you go that route, I'll be a sad panda and probably not using the site.

Because the unliked would use it to retaliate against everyone else. Stop being annoying and your karma might go up.

With you, it's easy, everyone votes you down!


Edited, Apr 17th 2013 9:20pm by Montsegurnephcreep

Your words aren't lost on me Catwho

Plenty of time for changes still, nothing at all is set in stone yet.

I'm pretty sure someone is immune to karma for the first few posts. (Ten, or so?) So someone can come in, make a few newbie mistakes, but clean up their act and quickly soar to Guru by being witty and conversational by post 100. It's happened to plenty of people.

Very few people actually bother with the "because I don't like you" for posters - hell, there are posters in the Asylum, in XI, and in other Cross site areas that I dislike intensively but have grudgingly rated up because they've made a good point. Systematically rating someone down, e.g. karma camping, is considered bad forum behavior and when suspected can be reported to a mod.

No, our current crop of trolls deserve every bit of bad karma they've earned. Just because they can't figure out why we're rating them down every post doesn't mean they deserve it any less.

The first time I ever joined an IRC chat channel, I was naive and asked them moderator of the first place I landed, "I heard you could download movies and stuff here?" Within a few minutes of an increasingly hostile conversation, I was kicked out of the channel. I didn't feel like I did anything wrong, but as it turns out the pure chat IRC places resented the download piracy places because they assumed they might eventually get IRC completely banned. (Fortunately for the fansub industry, Bittorent and Pirate Bay turned out to be easier targets. IRC is still where you go to find fansubbed anime you can't get anywhere else.)

No matter what forum ratings system is used, there will be people who just don't "get" the culture that the rest of the forum has built up, and will have trouble fitting in. The karma system at least empowers regular users to deal with bad behavior proactively instead of tattling to a mod any time someone says anything stupid.