Will keeping 1.0's levels do more harm than good?Follow

this is one of the things that has got me wondering of how will it effect the game at re-release.

Considering a ton of people "abused" and i will quote as it was either intentional or UN-intentional; the majority of the people that played after the x chain were added powered leveled and bum rushed every single job in game to cap within hours. Leading to the majority of servers with almost all things maxed effortlessly ( don't want to rehash what was spoken of before to death but it needs to be reminded ). Now considering they keep saying 2.0 is essentially a brand new game having over 50% of the players all capped out in the long run will have people quitting or not staying with the game longer due to them having few things to do.

I'm sure a lot will come out and say:
-they earned x....and y
-if i don't like i can start new character
-etc

but the way i see it going is this:
game released........everyone excited to see whats new.......they try new fate/and any of the new endgame.....only few weeks or month pass and considering capped all and the ease of progressing people will get bored and move on to another mmorpg.

so is this game over-casual gameplay and mechanics+ allowing almost everyone near max capped all going to bring more harm than good? am i alone on this? or imagine this what would happen if you release a mmorpg with everyone in the game at capped lv?




P.S- i really wish ( insert anti ff11 hatters shield ) that they took stuff from their 10+ year running mmorpg for inspiration, this is looking into another WoW rehash with talk to npc......go kill x amount of monsters and collect reward 1-cap and focus all on endgame. I wish it was like in the old days or ff11 where the journey from 1 to max is the adventure and not just have a gap in activities from 1....cap and then they have stuff to do, or have levels mean something.



Edited, Apr 29th 2013 12:08pm by KingAlkaiser

We didn't quit before... why would we quit after they added all the shiny new items, dungeons, quests, and jobs?

The reasoning doesn't make sense.

Lastly, no one is capped. We are only 50. There's level 90 enemies.

Seriously I capped all but 2 jobs in 1.0. I kept playing, and not to level the remaining 2.

Edited, Apr 29th 2013 12:19pm by Louiscool

I had all jobs (DOL/DOH/DOM/DOW) quite a few months before 1.0 ended and I honestly wasnt stuck for things to do with my ls. I played from the start and it did get easier to level up mele/mage jobs but before the PL thing became the norm I had most of my jobs (bar PUG if I remember) levelled either to 50 or pretty close because the class system sort of required it.

Quite honestly they SHOULD have wiped everything clean, but it wouldn't cause harm due to the fact they're blocking 1.0 people from joining new servers with their imports.

Well, the original game sold about 600k copies. There are 580k people in the current Beta (with more to be added). So between these two numbers, I'm giving a very optimistic starting number of at least 500k people interested enough to seriously play this game.

Totally irrational fears, OP.
1.0 characters will be "quarantined" to their own special legacy servers anyway,
so there's no chance the end-game stagation will infect newer players, too.
'cept if the letter are for some strange reason inclined to join a legacy server.

If this turns into another games sold versus players playing thread I'm going to start nuking posts. Let's keep it on topic. While it's been done to death on the official forums and to a lesser extent here, it's still more worthy than fighting over player numbers.

I'm sorry KA, I'm not even in the Beta myself but your OP seems terribly uninformed. I think most if not all your fears have been addressed in some way or another. But the simple fact is, the game needs new players to survive, and without an emphasis on welcoming them, FFXIV is as good as done.

And as for your post script, FFXI was made after their developers spent a year playing EQ, the prevalent MMO of its time, and created an FF-themed MMO based on what they learned. If that was good enough for you, isn't it a bit presumptuous to say they shouldn't make their next FF-themed MMO based on lessons learned from today's (even more) prevalent MMO?

This is a very good point.

They have the legacy players already. We are their customers to lose. Just give us a bunch of repeatable content to tread water until more jobs are released.

The concern should be (and is) new players.



Really?

I'm too attached, but if I only had 1 or 2 jobs at 30-40ish.. yeah I can see that.

I never really leveled, collected, and horded items so I would have some advantage in 2.0, I just want the ability to try everything I can from day 1. I do plan starting from level 1 as Archanist and playing through the storylines.

Legacy servers will be great.... "Looking for 1 Gld more, Smn X3, do you need iit?"

Edited, Apr 29th 2013 2:38pm by Louiscool

I think the reason a lot of us want to start over is because it really is a new game, and we want to experience everything from the beginning. I'll log into my legacy account once to see what kind of area they start us in and what happens with that, but I'm not even planning on keeping my beta character from phase 4 at this point.

Very good point. Todays MMO space and culture is VERY different from the days of FFXI. Gone are the days of enjoying the journey in a MMO and exploring. Now it's about power leveling and getting to end game content the fastest and most expedient way possible. I just hope the developers realize that's the trend in western mmos since they seem to want to cater more to that side of the spectrum with ARR. And have a lot of end game content/ and or gating to keep it from being consumed in a week like some MMO's. Not that I think gating will be a problem since this is from the same company that gave us Dynamis and HNM's that had 1 day-a week respawn timers in the hope your group was the one that could tag it.

Edited, Apr 29th 2013 3:14pm by Valeforelacky

Edited, Apr 29th 2013 3:14pm by Valeforelacky

With the funny twist that they actually have a perfectly valid excuse to
separate those two conflicting types of players early on.

I haven't been active on this forum for quite some time, however, with the ARR being in beta my curiosity to play again is peaked and I have started to reread the forums and look at the videos. My character isn't high level in anything so I suppose I could start over if they did a character wipe but I'm glad they didn't. Even for people who didn't max out everything to level 50 they still put time into their characters and playing these old characters may bring back memories that make them reconnect to the game.

This may be a boon to the number of people who resubscribe, or who played during the free phase, as I did for a month, and will now actively subscribe to play again. Wiping all characters and saying start over it's a new game just does not seem like a good option as it devalues all the time the most ardent Final Fantasy XIV supporters placed into the game and into the feedback that made ARR possible. While some people may choose to start over on a 'new players only' server I think the choice to let 1.0 players reconnect with old characters can only be a positive thing.



Edited, Apr 29th 2013 3:52pm by PyrielDD