Answer my quetion if you can about F2PFollow

Your on the same page of the book as most of the rest of us... F2P is a mess community wise and with kids thinking they run **** always has been and won't ever change... Thus the reason ARR wont be F2P as Yoshi has clearly stated...

In 1.0, you definitely had your share of immaturity. But it generally stemmed the usual drama; this guy said he would double meld my gear but then stole it so im shouting in uldah for the next week about it, omg we wiped im going to fake dc, etc.

It wasn't anything out of the ordinary though, and while there was a super sense of elitism regarding casuals, I attribute that to the entitlement people felt by "sticking with the game," which is one reason I wish I could start on a non-legacy server, and new players come legacy servers.

Are you aware of the community in League of Legends?

This video sums it up:

I must admit i loled with the video. I had a similar experience when i first tried the game cause of some friends. I had photoshop on cause i was working and forgot to close it so it lagged the game so bad that took ages to load. One of the guys there said something similar to one of the quotes in the video that said "you play on a toaster". The outcome was that we forced him to quit cause of multiple kills but yea he was rude!

For some reason, I'm quite hopeful that the new players will be welcomed. If anything, it's because many hardcore shells don't have enough to run 24 man raids lol. Most of the 1.0 community was segregated by how dedicated they were. You'd have 30 people in an ls but only 10 of them played seriously, while the rest just came to chat and socialize and get log off. At most they'd get help with primals, story and AF etc.

That aside, there is going to be A LOT of LS jumping lol. I'm going to be prepared for it.

Mm i guess, i never liked ls/guild/corp jumping cause i play with people i like so i tent to stick with them for a long time. In games that they keep track of your previous ls/guilds/corps it grew as a problem if someone was jumping a lot cause the new ls would get suspicious and ask you why you keep jumping.

I just couldn't stick it out and get the Chocobo Mask... tell me you have one.. they're rarer than relics!

Popori pandas were available in TERA before there were pandas in WoW. Perhaps Blizz is making WoW a TERA clone? Doubtful.

The game has it's share of '12 year olds' just like any game. If you don't like what you read in chat, you can disable it. Real talk, I had an issue in XI where a player who was upset that I beat him to claim a mob went nuts on me and spammed my chat with insult and profanity. The GM I contacted gave me the same advice I just gave you. Use your blacklist/ignorelist and turn your "I'm not 12, but I don't want to hear their thoughts" parental settings on

I purchased and played TERA through the subscription fee era and those people still existed, at least; I suspect they did but I wouldn't have known because I had general chat disabled. Just my opinion, but player behavior isn't related to subscription fees. A game being F2P doesn't inspire immaturity.

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Thin skinned people on the internet? The irony of your forum name and it's association with this post

Active players:
XI - ~ quarter of a million
XIV - ~ 15 to 20k
LoL - ~ 30 million

Based on your results both XI and XIV have a higher concentration of douchebags (by volume). Seems legit

That i did not know and i guess i was wrong but that doesn't mean anything the game is definitely a wow clone from transportation to you name it. I am not saying it doesn't have unique things but seriously, look at their map its so close to wow's map. I am not saying its the same but after playing wow for 2 years the first thing i thought when i saw teras map was "hey that looks almost the same with WoW's" and from what i read in the net many do believe that as well.



I played for 3 years Eve online and yet i have not seen the amount of smack talking and insults i have seen in Tera for the past 2 days and that means something.Also probably because the player base was normally above 20 years old. I have also played WoW and well we all know that everyone used to play that game. I can not say for certain since it has been years since i stopped playing but i am pretty sure that again it didn't have that kind of talk. Not to mention that if you reported someone to a GM for calling you a d** as i seen in Tera he wont tell you to ignore him but would give a warning to the offender and the second or third time he would have been banned or something similar. But again can't be certain for wow it has been so many years ago.

I can say though that i have played a few more F2P games that had the same kind of community. I am not saying that all of them did but what i can say is from the 3-4 games that i played and were P2P i never seen so much immaturity. That gave me the opinion as you could figure out from my post that subscription DOES in fact mean that to some degree "12 year olds that think they are da boss" wont be playing the game. Of course that is a personal opinion from my own experience and others may and will disagree.



Is that meant for me? Because i do not quite follow what you are saying. I mean my forum name "Teravibe" actually means nothing. It was a name given to a series of rock festivals in my country. My usual name in internet is Teras (means monster in my language) but it was taken in zam forums.

The figures for XI and XIV were not daily either and SE runs cross region servers because it's (read: they are) cheap. Just sayin, you'd think there were more douchebags(total) in a room of 100 people vs a room with 10 people even if only 1 in 10 people from both rooms were douchebags. Trace amounts of fecal matter in a gallon of water doesn't seem quite as bad as a few logs floating around in your pool

TERA has been pretty consistently thrown out there as one of the worst MMO communities since well before the F2P move. Just saying.

Awww, shucks. I missed you too Lou!

Yep i agree on what you say sandpark. My suggestion that subscription affects it, is because from experience i have seen that the younger the player the more of a douchebag he will be and since he is a kid that means his/her money are limited thus they normally stay in the range of F2P games. Now by that i do not mean there aren't a*** from the age of 18 and above, god no but i tent to believe they are more civil than a 12 year old boy that just discovered he can say anything he wants in the internet without his parent ever know thus no fear of punishment.