IvanStine207 wrote:
I think many people have different interuptations of what type of battle system 13 is , I have basically explained why I think it is not. My dad isn't interested in playing XIII just because he doesn't think its turn based. Now I can tell the combat difference between XIII when you compare it to Call of Duty or Kingdom Hearts but XIII combat system isn't as slow as some might think.
Edited, Jul 6th 2013 3:41pm by IvanStine207
FFXIII is the same as FFIV-VIII -- it's ATB.
Frankly, despite how people want to argue this, your dad's right as it isn't turn based. However, neither are any of the ATB Final Fantasy games.
Turn based implies it happens outside of time and either it's individual or party issued commands before a turn is executed. Final Fantasy I-III are turn based, Dragon Quest is turn based, Lost Odyssey is turn based, FFX is turn based, Blue Dragon is turn based.... ATB isn't turn based. The Civilization series is another example of turn based even if it's not an RPG. Time has no meaning, only the order of turns.
ATB is a predecessor to MMO combat and despite what people want to argue TB does
not mean turn based. ATB relies on your AGI/Speed rating while the GCD is defined by whichever MMO you choose. In both situations everything's in real time and thinking about doing something doesn't cause the enemy to stop moving. Yes, I'm aware you can activate "Wait" or even pause the game but the principle and design of the combat systems are entirely the same -- cooldown driven.
Turn based means time has no meaning in combat: only four of the Final Fantasy flagship titles uses this (I, II, III, and X). The rest are all evolutions of the various Time Based (notice, TIME based, not turn) combat systems be it ADB, CTB, ADB, or RTB. FFXIII (ADB) is nothing more than the usual ATB but combos can be stored up or you can go as soon as your cooldown's refreshed. Even Chrono Trigger's merely an evolution of ATB.
sandpark wrote:
Yes and they are still turn-based which is a good thing in my opinion.
Except they're not.
Edited, Jul 6th 2013 5:21pm by Viertel