GET RID OF JEDI CLASSFollow

jedi are Star wars after all.

But yeah there is to many openly wandering the streets. I'll be honest i like others pre cu couldn't be bothered with the whole jedi grind thing, it was always something i would get around to eventually, part of me was actually looking forward to the solitude of grinding my jeid in a little house way out in the middle of no where were no one would see me, but i hadn't bee nhere long and i was still enjoying my game blah blah blah...........

Anyway the nge came and all that went bye-bye i was for a long time quite sad and delcared i woukld never have a NGE jedi.............. well till they gave us our second toons then i was like ***** you SOE im gonna be a NGE jadddi just like all the other mad kids hopping around the SP, But that soon got boring, well after about 5 mins to be honest.............i dont understand the fasination with the pointless jumping, but hey if it keeps them happy.

Anyway long story short i got to like it, i find its not so much being a jedi i like, as much as its like my old masterdoc/Master Swords template which is where i was always the most happiest..........without having to worry about healing anyone else lol. So eventually i even respeced my main to be a respec jeaadi. Sell out i know! sometime i even make my self sick. just tell me you will still respect me in the morning.

But i do think there is to many jedi visably walking the streets. People that know me will tell you, my jedi is rarely seen holding a saber, only ever wears robes when she heading in to a fight. and when attacked by npc in town usually shoots them or uses an normal sword. Infact there is usually very little sign that she is a jedi at all, and that has been my chosen play style.

I would infact like to see a new visablity system in place, I wanna see visablity back not to curb the no. of jedi, after all thats a choise for all of us, but to give it some depth and maybe even take away a few of the visable jedi and put us back in to some sort of hiding. After all this is set between ep 4 and 5, not as mentioned by some one earlier the new jedi order, that is after the death of the emp and vader. order 66 is still in operation the emp still pretty much has control of the emipire and the rebelion is still gathering steam.

But if that was done i would also like to see jedi move away for the robes for protection. Personally i hate the fact that really jedi have 2 or 4 option for their armour. considerably less than that of the rest of the proffesions and thats not even taking in to account colour variation.

This of course is a sticky subject, it seems many feel jedi get to much attention as it is and should not get more, and of course there is various pro and against arguments over it all.

I dont think i wanna see Jedi have inaitte armour. Basically thats the easy answer, but with the idiots we have will lead to an army of pink winged hawtpanted jedi running amock jumping around everywhere like a cockroach infestation.

I think what i would like to see is something where we can RE our cloaks (not robes) in to a jacket or robe of our own choise. This i think would be cool, it would give jedi some individuality and not make us quite so obviously stood out.

I also think for the jedi grinding up as an alternertive to robes should be able to see tailors. tailors who are able to procure parts from an A/S to use in RE'ing the availble looted armoured clothing. This could also be a two pronged thing, one way it comes out for the mere mortals to wear, the other way it comes out for the jedi to wear. This clothing of course will be lower statted than full on armour as it is now which the jedi robes and cloaks already are in the 1st place(discuss?)

If only you had lasted out another paragraph or so lol

Thats what i said lol.

And sorry i cant help it, i try to stay breif but it just goes on and on and on! theink how the people around me feel lol.

its the voices they make me do it

And i will say to you what i would say to the anyone else that has not let go yet. get over it move on its been 2 years now

Where were you when the fhit hit the san and we were pushing for things to be changed?

Where wer eyou when the server population hit the floor?

Oh yeah it did didn't it. Now don't make me make you look silly by pointing out it was just long winded not difficult. Done right you incured no visiblity, you just headed out to the wilderness and grinded out your xp.

No visiblity = no BH's No BH's = no Xp loss.

Yeah it took months, but they were frakking hard once you got them to full template, so it was obviously worth it.

No if you want my sympathy talk about the people that didn't quite make it to unlocking pre CU. all the work they put in to be so close to unlocking, yet got nothing. where as even if you just unlocked the day before you got your elder title, a master jedi with no grinding and a elder cloak ( back when it actually made a diffrence)

And yeah its way easier now, the whole game is way easier, and non the better for it.

But i have come to accept there is no place for an ALPHA class in a MMO. But you cant have a SW game without jedi now can you.

And for your imformation im no ones son...........I AM THAT BEEEEEP! YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

:P



Edited, Feb 6th 2008 8:04am by EmjayR

This topic was originally posted last october yet people to this day are still replying. The Jedi aren't going anywhere. Move on already.

Well, I was pre NGE player, like many here. Lets not forget all the good stuff that led to Jedi hunting in that era, for example like having a whole guild dedicated to just that was just pure fun with all the resources it took to get there, and its availabilty in the world...

Now that everyone gets their own little bubble of pleasure at the NGE character creation, just like in WoW, there's no need to make use of the environment in the same way, and other people for that matter. People dont go out discovering what they want out from the world's dynamics since they know that already before even playing! Hence the real experience of the game turns to goo.

Before, someone with the lowest set of skills and plenty of directions to choose from could always be of help to anybody, no matter what he did and no matter when. If he decided he was going to begin spending his time fishing for the guild's Chef, he could. If he decided he had enough of it and had aquired good surveying skills in the meantime, well he could just go work for the guild's crafter. If he had gathered enough fighting skills whilst hunting for pelts to start thinking about pvp, he could! Once he'd had his fun mastering a few professions and start thinking about becoming Jedi, but not until then, he could. He wouldn't be forced to keep dwelling on the idea either! He could literally try anything that world had to offer. A start by waving his little fishing stick around was enough to matter right away, and if he couldn't be bothered with reaching jedi anymore, well there was plenty out there to get busy and have fun with. And its not like being jedi was garenteed safety...

Now, hunting for resources has become a loathed activity since all of its need has been directed towards the efficiency of becoming THE pimp pvp badass of all.
Which in my opinion, kills all gameplay dynamics this game once stood for which didn't invlove forcing people in boxes.

What's the most important thing about mmo's? Being nothing more but your sh*tty little Uber Avatar or actually having fun with people?

Long live the age of Myths and Heroes!

So in conclusion:
This game now smells like McDonalds, with clients looking real busy burping their Big Macs...

But I mean I havent played for a year and a half so, perhaps these dynamics have come back, I dont know and I cannot be ***** to pay a month. So if anyone's willing to rape anything I've said, go ahead and tell, whats it really like now?

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 6:33am by Erkinn

na leave em. more lambs for the slaughter

seeing alot of jedi doesn't bother me as i know 2/3s of them don't know their profesion very well and go down in pvp. besides it shouldn't bother you so much how ppl play their game- every MMO has some class that the masses gravitate to.. If they FR its a morale victory anyway, but I find Jedi aren't as invulnerable as they seem.

If you don't PvP I don't see what the issue is anyway. Just look at it as its easier for you to be unique when most ppl play but geez taking Jedi out from game is just retarded do you really want 3/4s of the current population to quit? ppl who love jedi aren't going to stick around if there forced to play something they dont like.. This arguements dead horse anyway.

Well Said!

heres the thing about jedi that the people who dont like jedi/want jedi to be an unlockable alpha class dont get, this game will die without jedi.

if you make jedi an unlockable alpha class again, there will be not as many jedi for maybe, 1, 2 months, then everybody will be jedi again, only this time there will be more, and they will be stronger than everyone else.

hokey religions...

as of tonight i'm officially sick of em. I've tried to keep an open mind towards them but they stand around acting like their **** don't stink telling one another how "good" of a jedi they are.. all of em dressed like they do assuming they lord over all the other profs. Assuming non jedi want to be like them. Saying things like "its because i'm fast!" when they're agi of 850 blocks all your hits. Fast? No.. Like as if I don't know that block is a passive firing roll, not something you react to.. Do you really want to wear the stupid *** robe and be like every other tom **** and harry? yea more power to ya.

I guess for jedi fans, if it were something very secret and hard to achieve, jedi players would be respected and rare. If someone achieved that level they would want to keep it a secret and not just "give it away." I think it would create much more intereting dynamics to the class. Are there any "old" jedi out there who were pissed when they made the change?

He's exactly right. Making jedi unlockable ruined the game in the first place (holocron and 32 grinds) I only heard about how cool the game was but I came the week the first jedi unlocked and as a new player it just not what you wanted to see- the community so self asorbed in trying to unlock jedi or buy holocrons.

No one had time for anything else. No one wanted anything to do with any new players because this took time out of their precious trek to jedi. "Oh but the cantinas were so packed preNGE!" yea with a bunch of AFK hologrinders.

We saw in the CU when Jedi got even easier to unlock the same thing but on a more massive scale. Suddenly Jedi became even closer of a dream to these ppl. They suffered no threat of being hunted on places like Kashhyk and just AFKed the village to their hearts content.

It was just jedi jedi jedi jedi just exactly like it is now, except the jedi were more self assorbed back than they are now. There was a tiny minority of players who detested jedi back then and these players were considered "invalids" by the Jedi because according to the jedi mentality- "these players are fat and too lazy to grind jedi like uszors." they had it totally backwards.

These players simply didnt desire some carbon copy win template and were generally bullied and berated by Jedi with all their unchecked dueling at any start port you travelled to. They actually considered themselves lords over the non jedi population, assuming these players were to stupid to read about the complete AFK guides to Jedi on the forums. Really it was the small group of non jedi population that saw through all their *********