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#27 Apr 26 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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Graphics definitely look good, no doubt about it. Have they made improvements to the interface, to get rid of the whole 2D-ish feel it had back then? I remember cutting wood or whatever it was, and I was basically just running around, tapping chunks of wood in random places. No real animation for picking it up and the movement seemed glitchy, as if gravity wasn't a factor.

Speaking of which, that is probably one of my main gripes with most of the new MMOs out there today. Your character is moving forward, but isn't synchronized with the movement of your legs, so it looks like you're hovering or sliding in places, especially when making turns and such.

To this date, World of Warcraft is the only MMO (that I have played) able to successfully capture realistic feet-on-ground animations. Age of Conan featured a nasty glitch where your character would do a sort of jump if you continually held and let go of the movement keys, like the individual keys were fighting for control.

If characters don't move with a certain natural "flow" to them, I pick up on it instantly and everything suddenly seems more... plastic, if you know what I mean.

Edited, Apr 27th 2010 1:02am by Mazra
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#28 Apr 26 2010 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
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I know what you mean, and LotRO has a slightly annoying lag regarding running. when you let go of the run key (or deactivate autorun) it doesnt immediately stop, and if you try to cast during that lag it wont allow you. Takes some time to get used to, but yeah it's there. at least it did when i last played it
#29 Apr 27 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
Well, popular vote has removed my right to choose. I'll be playing @#%^ing WoW until FFXIV comes out. By which I mean my soon to be guild. Not you guys. The input was helpful, thanks again.

Edited, Apr 27th 2010 1:18pm by Doug
#30 Apr 27 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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Ugh. I keep having thoughts of restoring my WoW account, and almost immediately shoot them down but they won't go away. It's starting to get annoying =/.
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#31 Apr 27 2010 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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WoW? really?

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#32 Apr 27 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Well, it's an MMO that my gf and I both enjoyed. I would certainly not be raiding again.
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#33 Apr 27 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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If your burned out on WoW like me give Lotro another shot its amazing.

If you have never played WoW there is a world of content there and you will have fun either way.


I'm playing lotro now again. I actually have gotten farther in the game than I ever did on previous runs. I have a 63 Warden that I plan to take to 65 plus a bunch of alts.

They have improved the game allot imo. They redid some of the lower quest zones like Lone Lands and the flow is much smoother now. Also you can solo all of Volume I epic quests which is a real boon. For you dedicated groupers they can still be grouped as well.

Once you hit Moria the epic quests have group instances in them but I am actually really enjoying them. I play on Brandywine which is high population so picking up a pug group has been really easy at any level. The quality of players in the pugs has been excellent. They usually know more about whats going on than me by far lol as I am still learning. Their are some dumb names and WoW like trolls around especially in the 1-20 zones around Bree. That's the barrens chat of Lotro don't listen to half what those tards say becuase they never get past level 20. I heard Landroval is the most mature and RP like server with a high population but my freinds from work play on Brandy so I am there.

The landscape graphics are amazing. Lothlorien for example is just mind blowing. You can get up into the tree's in the golden wood and see such vista's. Oh and the Caras Galad where Galadriel is looks like Avatar Pandora at night with all the glowy elf buildings built into the tree's.

I will say that the character animations for some classes look weird (Champ yuck). And the amount of customization on faces and bodies is not as high as I would like. Some classes are much smoother than others however. Warden for example looks awesome when fighting. You play just like a sparten with your sheild out and spear held over it. And you get cool jumping moves like in Troy.

Some of the character animations have improved as well in the recent expansion packs. They looked at the timing of moves and synched some things up better.

Also you dont have to look like a rainbow puke clown becuase once you have a toon to level 20 you can use two outfits that are purely cosmetic. So you can have a matching cool looking outer exterior yet still keep your terrible looking best stats item. Also you can dye your armor the same colors to match your preference.

Oh and there are skirmishes now worth allot of XP that you can jump in and complete in 1 hour or less. Solo or groups like your own mini instances after level 30.

Ok thats long enough. Oo







Edited, Apr 27th 2010 11:21am by Shojindo
#34 Apr 27 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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Rate up just for that. I lol'd.
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#35 Apr 27 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, that nice write up and it doesnt matter cuz the OP got cockblocked into playing WoW anyway.

Sooooo sad :_(
#36 Apr 27 2010 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't realize you were so bitter KT... =P
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#37 Apr 27 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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LoTRO was good times but it's a pity that they bungled the MvP aspect so badly. I entered the game at beta, played for a while with a Captain, got into the MvP game and then it all went to hell in terms of balance. Turbine had no clue how to fix the problems. Some of it was just cheating players (spies via Teamspeak and crap) but some of it was legitimate balance issues with putting in unique PC rewards, having Creeps be a fraction of the PC's strength and then balancing it around 3-4 Creeps for every PC in the zone. As soon as the numbers got close to 2:1, it was a complete rout. The Troll/Ranger solution was a joke.

Eventually I just gave up on it and quit the game. I tried getting back into the PvE content but by that point I was pretty sour on the whole thing. I hear they've nerfed spiders into the ground since then so it's probably just as well that I got out when I did.
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#38 Apr 27 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I really am.

I liked vanilla WoW. I liked how people with epic gear stood out. I liked TBC until end game was conquered and everybody started looking exactly the same. I didn't like the direction they went with PvP, and thats not just because I sucked at Arena, I never agreed with the notion of small scale PvP in an MMO. And their large scale PvP failed, at least back when i played. Wintergrasp was unplayable due to lag. and AV... well, thats a whole nother thread. (ab and WSG were pretty good IMO as far as MMO pvp goes, but they were so old)

I think they could have easily added expansions and content without buggering up the fundamentals laid out in vanilla WoW. As i mentioned earlier, the majority of my fun in WoW was thanks to the people I played with. After leaving TFS and playing horde or just playing on a different server I never had much fun with the core of the game.

Post WoW, I started playing other MMOs. THere are some games that are worth exactly the population they get, like City of Heroes. Then there are games that deserve more, like WAR a game that relies on population to be even remotely fun and LotRO, which I supposed is considered a 'success' but it should have a much higher subscription base for the quality they offer. And what about upcoming games? They can be great by MMO launch standards and end up falling flat on their face because WoW will release an expansion at just the right time, or some major content patch. Former TFSers had a whole guild goin on WAR before WotLK came out, once it hit, bam, ghost town. MMOs w/o people kinda suck. Sure, it's just business but it still pisses me off.

I leveled a DK to 80. Did a bit of heroics and the ridiculously easy raids that a person could sleep through and still do OK in, then called it quits. It's just BLAH... once I finally got over the crack in WoWarcrack it was clearly rather 'meh'.
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#40 Apr 27 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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edit -.- nm

Edited, Apr 27th 2010 1:01pm by KTurner
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KTurner wrote:
Former TFSers had a whole guild goin on WAR before WotLK came out, once it hit, bam, ghost town. MMOs w/o people kinda suck. Sure, it's just business but it still pisses me off.


So we're hating Blizzard for making the more attractive game now? Those people didn't leave because Blizzard launched the expansion, they left because they preferred World of Warcraft over Warhammer.

If the roles were reversed, would you be hating Turbine?
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#42 Apr 27 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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#43 Apr 27 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
So we're hating Blizzard for making the more attractive game now?

Hey, why not? People hate on McDonald's all the time for selling a kajillion burgers per minute. It's the way we do things.
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#44 Apr 27 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
KTurner wrote:
Former TFSers had a whole guild goin on WAR before WotLK came out, once it hit, bam, ghost town. MMOs w/o people kinda suck. Sure, it's just business but it still pisses me off.


So we're hating Blizzard for making the more attractive game now? Those people didn't leave because Blizzard launched the expansion, they left because they preferred World of Warcraft over Warhammer.

If the roles were reversed, would you be hating Turbine?


Of course it was more attractive, it had been out for years and has over 9 million more paying subscribers. Question really is, do I blame WoW or the sheep that play it?

And yeah, if the roles were reversed I would most definitely be complaining about that too. It has nothing to do with Blizzard. I love Blizzard. It's about getting some good variety in the genre.
#45 Apr 27 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
Wow's days as Rome are numbered. I will probally play some again when Caty comes out but until then there is no more content for me to queeze from that turnip.

It's as much about the journey to me as the destination.

WoW is all about destination/end game now becuase it has been out so dang long. I have leveled so many toons to 80 it just becomes a hurry and grind it out thing. Then at 80 you get to repeat the same long time commitment raids ad nauseum all the while depending on a great enough percentage of 24 other people not to suck to have a small chance at this weeks loot pile.

LoTro or any other MMO at the end will be no different really. But the journey in Lotro is pretty amazing the entire way which is refreshing.

My current plan is not to get to married to any MMO's anymore so I don't neglect all of the awesome single player games that continue to come out.

Current raid schedule 5-10PM Mon-Sunday with attendance points and free raid diapers is just not for me now.

I hope some of the new ones in developement don't fizzle as hard as WAR and AOC did but honestly both of those games gave me month or two of enjoyment. WoW, FFXI and now Lotro to a lesser extent just have more of that take over your life qaulity to them that junkies like us enjoy. :)



Edited, Apr 27th 2010 1:30pm by Shojindo
#46 Apr 27 2010 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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Have you been following Jumpgate Evolution at all, Sho? Im beginning to wonder if that game will ever come out. :(

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Wow's days as Rome are numbered.
Only by another Blizzard MMO.

Edited, Apr 27th 2010 1:40pm by KTurner
#47 Apr 27 2010 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
My boss at work was in a beta for it but he still can't talk about it. Don't know much about it other than that.

(Yeah my boss at work plays MMO's and is super cool)

There are a bunch of free ones that I have not tried yet including DDO, and that Fantasy earth thing so I might kill some time on those when I get bored with Lotro next round.

Checky this out:

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/video-documentary-4

Looks promising. Let the video buffer a bit it's choppy as hell if you dont.
#48 Apr 27 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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My current plan is not to get to married to any MMO's anymore so I don't neglect all of the awesome single player games that continue to come out.

Current raid schedule 5-10PM Mon-Sunday with attendance points and free raid diapers is just not for me now.


Yea, same here. The last year I've finished more games than I ever did in my 4ish years of playing WoW.
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#49 Apr 27 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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KTurner wrote:
Question really is, do I blame WoW or the sheep that play it?


I think you answered the question, although, those "sheep" did in fact spend time with other MMOs as well. They just found World of Warcraft to be their preferred game. Are people sheep for having preferences? Or are they simply sheep for not being like you?

Much like how you shouldn't fix stuff that isn't broken, why switch game if you like the one you're playing? I've tried all those new MMOs, but I still came back to World of Warcraft. Some games entertained me for weeks, even months (EVE Online, for instance), but eventually I found them to be either too far from or too close to World of Warcraft to provide the same appeal that have me looking forward to playing when I get home from work and school.

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And yeah, if the roles were reversed I would most definitely be complaining about that too. It has nothing to do with Blizzard. I love Blizzard. It's about getting some good variety in the genre.


I thought I saw a bit of Jante somewhere up there. We're bashing them for being good at what they do. Let's go support people who aren't good at what they do instead. That logic isn't faulty.

You, yourself, said that you overcame the "crack" in World of Warcrack, so obviously you were into it as well. After you "got out", you could suddenly see how it had been holding you back, etc. Sounds like something I've heard from people who drop an addiction. Ex-smokers constantly bothering me about how unhealthy smoking is and how quitting changed their lives.

Don't tell me you've become one of those, KT. Smiley: frown

Edited, Apr 28th 2010 4:19am by Mazra
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#50 Apr 27 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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/gollum I HATES IT!
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