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Anybody have a list of mobs that are actually Tranq'able in BC?
My guess, which is a guess, is none.
probably will be a very short list....
have tried it on different mobs, none worked...
have tried it on different mobs, none worked...
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Ok....found 1 mob so far, Aeonus in CoT: BM....I guess his Frenzy can be Tranq'd, will try to confirm this.
Aeonus is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but I'm 100% sure there's another one which I just cant think of atm..
IMO its a good decision to remove its usefulness, it was a crappy move which only existed so that hunters could get a place in 40 man hardcore raids.
IMO its a good decision to remove its usefulness, it was a crappy move which only existed so that hunters could get a place in 40 man hardcore raids.
Back in the old days (pre-expansion), Tranquility Shot was a quest reward and was needed in a Molten Core fight, I think. Versus a boss who went into a special Frenzy thing. Unless tranquilized he would wtfpwn the entire raid.
I've tested it on mobs who supposedly go into a frenzy when attacked, but it had no effect. My guess is that it was made easily obtainable because Molten Core or wherever it's supposed to be used at is now lowbie content.
I've tested it on mobs who supposedly go into a frenzy when attacked, but it had no effect. My guess is that it was made easily obtainable because Molten Core or wherever it's supposed to be used at is now lowbie content.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra wrote:
Back in the old days (pre-expansion), Tranquility Shot was a quest reward and was needed in a Molten Core fight, I think. Versus a boss who went into a special Frenzy thing. Unless tranquilized he would wtfpwn the entire raid.
I've tested it on mobs who supposedly go into a frenzy when attacked, but it had no effect. My guess is that it was made easily obtainable because Molten Core or wherever it's supposed to be used at is now lowbie content.
I've tested it on mobs who supposedly go into a frenzy when attacked, but it had no effect. My guess is that it was made easily obtainable because Molten Core or wherever it's supposed to be used at is now lowbie content.
It was also used in the Hunter Epic quest, which you got as a 50% chance drop in Majordomo's chest. One of the demons needed to be Tranq shotted, and... ergh... forgot the name of the sting that reduced strength and so on. (Now it is changed, of course, but still. That sting I never use anymore...)
I would also remember that all the other high end instances had at least one boss that needed to be tranqed, just so Hunters wouldn't be discarded completely in end-game.
Great Solution Blizz... add a pissed off doggie to every instance instead of fixing the damn class. Ah well, at least we got some more use in TBC.
Tranq-Shot was also needed in BWL at the two dragon bosses before Chromaggus, in AQ40 at Batleguard Sartura and in Naxx as well. Just to make hunters a must have in a raid group.
I'm also glad that this is not needed anymore as ranged DPS currently is king and hunters can perform quite well. And misdirection is a really great ability which makes hunters more beneficial for a raid group.
The one thing thats makes me a little sad is Silencing Shot, our marksman 41 points talent.
Speccing so deep in a tree and the final talent is quite useless in raid content. It works in most 5-mans and in heroic mode it might be quite useful, however it is not fair that starting with karazhan nearly everything is immune to this shot whilst all other silencing / interupting abilities still work.
I'm also glad that this is not needed anymore as ranged DPS currently is king and hunters can perform quite well. And misdirection is a really great ability which makes hunters more beneficial for a raid group.
The one thing thats makes me a little sad is Silencing Shot, our marksman 41 points talent.
Speccing so deep in a tree and the final talent is quite useless in raid content. It works in most 5-mans and in heroic mode it might be quite useful, however it is not fair that starting with karazhan nearly everything is immune to this shot whilst all other silencing / interupting abilities still work.
Mulgrin wrote:
Tranq-Shot was also needed in BWL at the two dragon bosses before Chromaggus, in AQ40 at Batleguard Sartura and in Naxx as well. Just to make hunters a must have in a raid group.
I'm also glad that this is not needed anymore as ranged DPS currently is king and hunters can perform quite well. And misdirection is a really great ability which makes hunters more beneficial for a raid group.
The one thing thats makes me a little sad is Silencing Shot, our marksman 41 points talent.
Speccing so deep in a tree and the final talent is quite useless in raid content. It works in most 5-mans and in heroic mode it might be quite useful, however it is not fair that starting with karazhan nearly everything is immune to this shot whilst all other silencing / interupting abilities still work.
I'm also glad that this is not needed anymore as ranged DPS currently is king and hunters can perform quite well. And misdirection is a really great ability which makes hunters more beneficial for a raid group.
The one thing thats makes me a little sad is Silencing Shot, our marksman 41 points talent.
Speccing so deep in a tree and the final talent is quite useless in raid content. It works in most 5-mans and in heroic mode it might be quite useful, however it is not fair that starting with karazhan nearly everything is immune to this shot whilst all other silencing / interupting abilities still work.
Well, it is still insanely powerful in a PvP environment, so I don't think it should be lower in the tree anyway.
Im pretty sure it can be used on Hakker if you dont take out Tiger, or Panther, forgot which.
Also, I've read it can be used on the last boss in The Black Morass CoT instance.
Also, I've read it can be used on the last boss in The Black Morass CoT instance.
wheeeeeeee, wasted gold on an ability i will probably never use...
yay...........
yay...........
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It works in most 5-mans and in heroic mode it might be quite useful, however it is not fair that starting with karazhan nearly everything is immune to this shot whilst all other silencing / interupting abilities still work.
I dissagree, I used it quite often in Karazhan.
Trashmobs: almost all casting mobs can be interupted with silencing shot.
Warlocks before the Shade of Aran
Sorcerous Shades (insane magic damage, must be interupted at all times else it is a wipe)
Mana feeders before the Curator
It also interupts the Shade of Aran's casting (except arcane missiles) so it must be used on cooldown there as well.
I use it for pulling casters in instances and heroics.
But tranq shot... I haven't found any mob except Aeonus afected by it, maybe it would be nice if it also affected Warlord Kalithresh's rage but it doesn't.
Basically it is a skill which was put in the game in an extremely insulting way by blizzard to ensure people would take at least one poor hunter in raids in the old times...
They couldn't make us desirable, they just made certain mobs unbeatable unless a hunter was there too...
i bet you tranq bosses will soon be back in instances again.
one of the reasons hunters wasnt so desireble was the poor scaling of hunter gear, and after a quick look you can see a similar pattern already, altho to to the same extent.
one of the reasons hunters wasnt so desireble was the poor scaling of hunter gear, and after a quick look you can see a similar pattern already, altho to to the same extent.
I can think of one 'boss' raid usage of silencing shot, and thats the priest of high king maulgar's little group. Whether its a bug or not, silencing shot works through his shield ability when he's casting prayer of healing - counterspell, kick, shield bash and pummel dont, making a MM hunter a real bonus to the group for this fight.
I guess its useful on aran, but when he's silenced he hits very hard in melee, and it can really ***** up his positioning if he runs over to a ranged player. I dont like to use it on aran for that reason =p
I guess its useful on aran, but when he's silenced he hits very hard in melee, and it can really ***** up his positioning if he runs over to a ranged player. I dont like to use it on aran for that reason =p
Actually I think our gear is not bad although it looks damn bad when you start raiding.
Crit chance kinda improves with sockets and enchants and our DPS while not being top of the meter still is very good. Coupling that with traps (which we now DO use in raids), misdirection and solid mana regen I see that hunters are desirable, at least in my guild's raids.
Yeah I have shot through the priest's shield in maulgar even when I was tanking the shaman add :P
Aran is a very weird encounter and one of my favorite. First of all he can't silenced by normal silence abilities. Our shots (and kicks, shocks, pummels) act like not-improved counterspel, locking the school he is currently using for 10 seconds. He always takes about 2 seconds to start casting another spell when you interupt one so it is very hard to actually totally silence him, only then does he melee and it is not very hard (2k on me) but it is very fast. The good thing is that he switches to casting whenever he can and if he runs to a player to melee him he usually only gets a cast off then blinks to the centre.
Crit chance kinda improves with sockets and enchants and our DPS while not being top of the meter still is very good. Coupling that with traps (which we now DO use in raids), misdirection and solid mana regen I see that hunters are desirable, at least in my guild's raids.
Yeah I have shot through the priest's shield in maulgar even when I was tanking the shaman add :P
Aran is a very weird encounter and one of my favorite. First of all he can't silenced by normal silence abilities. Our shots (and kicks, shocks, pummels) act like not-improved counterspel, locking the school he is currently using for 10 seconds. He always takes about 2 seconds to start casting another spell when you interupt one so it is very hard to actually totally silence him, only then does he melee and it is not very hard (2k on me) but it is very fast. The good thing is that he switches to casting whenever he can and if he runs to a player to melee him he usually only gets a cast off then blinks to the centre.
so where do we acually trap in raids?(except moroes)
we did use traps on pulls in the first part of kz for a week or 2 but that doesnt happen anymore cuz there really is no need.
ater opera almost everything is immune to traps and the few that isnt doesnt usually doesnt need to be either.
is SSC a trap place? havent been in there yet
like i said, yes we start out good, i would say really good even been top 3 in both kz and gruuls. just like we were in MC and somewhat bwl to then be totaly outrun.
looking att drops further down the road.
ran ramparts for a friends alt last night, droppeda pair of lv60 gloves, these gloves were acually almost as good as karazhan drop
i mean comeon :P
we did use traps on pulls in the first part of kz for a week or 2 but that doesnt happen anymore cuz there really is no need.
ater opera almost everything is immune to traps and the few that isnt doesnt usually doesnt need to be either.
is SSC a trap place? havent been in there yet
like i said, yes we start out good, i would say really good even been top 3 in both kz and gruuls. just like we were in MC and somewhat bwl to then be totaly outrun.
looking att drops further down the road.
ran ramparts for a friends alt last night, droppeda pair of lv60 gloves, these gloves were acually almost as good as karazhan drop
i mean comeon :P
It is sad, but you can get many many blue items which are much better than epics. The only items currently in the game where I think they have actually got it right are the PvP items.
In Karazhan I trap more or less everywhere but the only places my traps actually make a difference is in Moroes and the Spell Shades before and after Aran. The point is I'm traping out of habit even though it doesn't make a real difference anymore. I like to peel off mobs after missdirecting on my trap. I haven't been to SSC yet but I'm sure with there will be mobs for traping.
I don't agree on the starting out good part, when I started going to Kara my DPS SUCKED, then it gradually got better and better until now I can get and stay at 3rd place in a 10-man raid which is good.
In Karazhan I trap more or less everywhere but the only places my traps actually make a difference is in Moroes and the Spell Shades before and after Aran. The point is I'm traping out of habit even though it doesn't make a real difference anymore. I like to peel off mobs after missdirecting on my trap. I haven't been to SSC yet but I'm sure with there will be mobs for traping.
I don't agree on the starting out good part, when I started going to Kara my DPS SUCKED, then it gradually got better and better until now I can get and stay at 3rd place in a 10-man raid which is good.
you mean the T0.5 lookalike gloves?
(still wearing those at 68... havent seen anything better yet, and havent looked into kara stuff yet)
(still wearing those at 68... havent seen anything better yet, and havent looked into kara stuff yet)
Is Last boss in Steamvaults, if you fail a tank, tranq shot-able?
To my knowledge it is not as it gains a buff from the channeling he does, it is not a real frenzy. Also this buff can sadly, not be stolen :<
It would make some crazy melee DPSing mages for 2 minutes :P
It would make some crazy melee DPSing mages for 2 minutes :P
lol I can just see it
*Your staff crits Warlord for 3546*
*Your staff skill raises to 2*
*Your staff crits Warlord for 3546*
*Your staff skill raises to 2*
It would be neat if they made Tranq Shot work on mobs/players who go into rage. Using it on an enraged Warrior (if it removes Enrage) would be nice. Or on those Hellboars who go zerker mode when you attack them.
Lots of possible uses, but sadly it hasn't been implemented.
Lots of possible uses, but sadly it hasn't been implemented.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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