[Rogue] MoP changes!Follow

I have 500 lol... Guess it's time to farm heroics and stuff for gold. Can usually make at least a couple hundred during one run

Awesome! I think my sub ended today so I'll need to reactivate when I get paid next week. Been too busy dealing with getting my car fixed and doctors right now

Oh, so they're taking away the primary functionality and just making those effects baseline? That's awesome.

I always thought glyphs should just be fun stuff that does cosmetic and solo stuff for your class. We shouldn't have to theorycraft glyphs too.

Hence Hemo getting the bleed effect baseline, gotcha.

Oh, and reading on ArenaJunkies the other day, I heard that on beta ShS enables you to ShS to friendly targets.

Yeah. So amazing. I'm praying that that goes live.

EDIT:



Boom. PvP spec. ShSing to healers is going to be loltastic. Also, free Redirects at any time? That's what I've wanted since that ability was introduced. I'm going to focus-KS-blind-sap so many healers they will literally ragequit life.

Also I just remembered that Deadly Throw is a 6 second lockout at 5 combo points. That'll get nerfed really really hard.

Edited, Apr 7th 2012 4:20pm by Theophany

Because for once, you have someone on for the rogue side of things that knows what he's talking about and is one of the only people that theorycrafts the rogue's skills for us.

I need to start taking a look at the changes and the combat side of things. With the way things are headed, I may for once enjoy something other than combat. I could never get into the Mut spec or anything. I loved my Blade Flurry/ Adren Rush combo too much. Guess I was just used to that playstyle since it's what I've been since 10.

I'm sort of wondering, how things work now "spec" wise since there really is no actually Mut spec or combat spec, etc. Since I haven't read up on it yet, I'm assuming it's to where abilities are now trainable no matter what (minus what's actually on the tree that you pick)?

• Crimson Tempest - Damage amounts changed, see tooltip for detail.

Rogue - Assassination

• Seal Fate - Now only works when you critically strike with a single-target attack.
• Venomous Wounds - Now has a 75% chance to deal additional damage, up from 60%. Garrote will not trigger this effect if the enemy is also afflicted by your Rupture.

Rogue - Minor Glyphs

• Glyph of Disguise - When you Pick Pocket a humanoid enemy, you also copy their appearance for 5 min. Your disguise will unravel upon entering combat.

Rogue - Major Glyphs

• Glyph of Cheap Shot - Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot by 50%. Replaced Glyph of Rupture.
• Glyph of Stealth - Reduces the cooldown of your Stealth ability by 4 sec. Replaced Glyph of Shadow Dance.
• Glyph of Shiv - Reduces the cooldown of your Shiv ability by 2 sec. Replaced Glyph of Slice and Dice.

Some nice stuff there, love the Stealth glyph, same with CS. Guessing Seal Fate was changed because FoK was giving combo points and it'd give a combo point for every crit you got with FoK.

So I got into MoP beta at long last, so I'll be posting my experiences here to keep all of the rogues updated.

I've been messing around with some stuff, and at the very least the new poison system (plus the removal of throwing weapons) is a godsend. I'm really enjoying assassination, but I still have to test out sub to see how it performs as well. I'll be testing on Tol Barad daily mobs, since that's what I kill the most (and know what I normally hit for).

Not having addons kind of sucks, though. :(

EDIT: Messing around with the specs, I think Assassination is going to be by far my favorite. It has a really nice and easy rotation (mutilate to 5 cp, envenom, mut to 5, rupture, rinse, repeat; throw in crimson tempest if you're AoEing).

Sub is kind of disappointing me now that I can get mut's damage with shadowstep. Dispatch is a really cool mechanic, and I'm loving the new glyphs.

What I'm using right now:

Major: Garrote, Recup, Smoke Bomb
Minor: Safe Fall, Blurred Speed, Detection (SWIRLY BALL IS BACK!)

I may be switching out the Bomb glyph for Shiv, Shadow Walk, or Expose Armor depending.

I can't test combat right now unfortunately, as specs are stuck once you pick them.

Anyway, rogues should be really stoked about the changes coming. I'm loving the specs and play style choices in MoP.

EDIT2: Forgot the most important change: SHADOWSTEP CAN BE USED ON ANY TARGET.

YES, ANY.

SHADOWSTEP ALL THE THINGS.

Edited, Apr 20th 2012 2:37am by Theophany

As far as damage goes, I think it's trended downward a slight bit; normally I'm ambushing for ~20k crits, and now it's critting a lot less.

Same with my other sub abilities; I've found that mutilate has been killing a lot faster than sub has (and it's also more fun).

I spent literally half an hour freaking people out in Stormwind by shadowstepping onto them; I was laughing the whole time. REALLY like the change.

Shadow Walk is for stealth vs stealth comps in arena, obviously. Rogues should never get opened on by other classes, hence Shadow Walk.

Also, helps in dungeons (there are places I'd vanish while in stealth to get a sap at the back of a trash pack, since sub wasn't a decent PvE build at the time).

Fleet Footed and Kick changes are to bring them more in line with what other classes get. 20% healing buff on live is pretty OP when you take all of the Recup talents.

Why can't we get a neat looking hood that doesn't make us look like human-geists or... I don't know... Something rogue-like?