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The Clinton case is honestly, tough to make. Not because he was full of ****, but because it's very difficult to understand things that IMPROVE the economy. It's much easier to understand thing that hurt the economy. I don't want to sound patronising, but it's enormously complex. Here's a good case for what Clinton did that caused the economic growth we experienced while he was in office:

http://www.zeppscommentaries.com/Politics/clinton_legacy.htm

The Bush case is much easier to make. Bush has cut taxes, which is fine if you cut spending, or at least spend responsibly. Bush has done neither. Let me try a quick and dirty metaphor.

Imagine your family is fairly wealthy and a rich uncle gives you a loan of $25,000. You can pay it back to him without intrest whenever you want, and if you never got around to paying him back he probably wouldn't mind. You decide you don't need the $25,000 and give it back to your uncle. Then you go out and get every credit card you can. You spend all of your income and max the credit cards out so that you can barely make the minnimum payments. You reason that having this crippling amount of debt will give you incentive to get a better job and the new car and suit and house you bought will facilitate that.

It might take you a couple of years to get the job, though, but instead of spending less you get even more credit cards. You max them out too. You're still making the payments so your credit's ok, but you continue to borrow more and more and go further and further in debt confident that your new job will take care of it because you'll make more money in a few years.

You spend more and more every year, while your income stays the same and then at one point you decide to provide for your childrens future and you borrow $100,000 from a bank to set up a trust for them. You'll pay for it with the money from your new job.

Here's the best part though. You get to turn your life over to someone else after four or eight years and they can worry about paying the debt you've accumulated.

That's Bush is doing to the national economy.

Again, it's a lot more complex than that, but there's no argument that Bush is spending massively while cutting revenue with no plan to do anything about it. He's confident it will all fix itself.

I *could* argue that, but there is the little tiny technicality that Bush couldn't take communion because he's not a Catholic.

I can, though! I was confirmed and everything by some guy in a red hat.

a good john kerry site

http://blog.johnkerry.com/dbunker/

a good analysis of what Clinton/Gore did in their 8 years

http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/additional.html

will let someone else find you Bush links =)

I was wonderin' about that new avatar of yours Smash.

If you can't beat 'em, confuse em!

Bush is a born-again Christian of the Methodist flavor. The question Smash was responding to was drawn from the Pope (was it the Pope? Some high ranking Catholic anyway) saying that politicans who supported abortion couldn't partake in the Catholic Holy Communion. Bush, not being Catholic, is ineligible to take the Catholic Communion.

Well, technically, anyone could walk into Mass at St. Benedict's and take Communion since it's not like they check Catholic ID's at the door, but you know what I mean.

I'm suprised. Republican governor George Ryan was able to effectively stop the death penalty in Illinois simply by giving a stay of execution to everyone on Death Row (thereby effectively suspending it) and later commuting all Death Row sentances to life in prison. I would have called you a liar, but I was smart enough to look it up first and:
Unlike governors in many states, the Texas Governor cannot independently issue a pardon or sentence commutation - Texas Politics

Huh.. I'll be damned. Stupid Texas

This is like the Twilight Zone thread.

back to the actual subject.politic's. i'm pro-choice, because what if a woman get's raped? should she have to keep a baby that is only going to exist because the father is a terrible person. or if the girl and guy r drunk and she gets pregnant. if u say that in the drunk case she should be forced to keep it, then i say beer should be outlawed(which i love beer so im not gonna want that to happen) or what if the couple does want a baby in the future, but can't afford to keep the baby and raise it properly.

have fun, thx smash for starting such a great thread