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#1 Nov 21 2005 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
We are only the parents.....

Linky.
#2 Nov 21 2005 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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oh god
#3 Nov 21 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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People like that don't need to be breeding... and if they choose to procreate, at least learn to get their priorities straight and educate their children right from wrong, real from fantasy, etc... ugh.
#4 Nov 21 2005 at 4:38 PM Rating: Default
LMFAO! I Was just about to go fight some orcs in real life too, thanks for that eye opener Kramey!
#5 Nov 22 2005 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
I know video games can be addictive, hell I'll be the first one to admit that I play them way more then I probably should but you don't see me going around trying to attack people with swords and knives and other things. (probably because I just havent found the right sword yet but thats another story)

This blaming video games for everything has to stop. If it wasn't a video game then more than likely it would have been him reenacting something he saw on TV or a movie.

Parents need to start stepping up and taking responsibility for their children and if they see something that is questionable they need to step in and do something about it. Video games/TV/Movies are not baby sitters. The government shouldn't be a baby sitter for your children. Either watch what they're watching, watch what they're playing yourself.

Normally I don't get mad about most things but this blaming video games/TV for a childs/teenagers actions really ticks me off.
#6 Nov 22 2005 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Proroc wrote:
We are only the parents.....

Linky.


/sigh. I can only think that in those poor parents grief they are trying to find anything they can to blame or justify the death of their son. Maybe bringing this lawsuit somehow numbs the pain they feel. Who knows.

Frankly I think more than anything, it's the media exposure to every detail of everyday life. Video games are just another way to sensationalize by the media. *Fodder* if you will.

I honestly don't think anything has changed much over the years other than the news will scrutinize and publicize things that used to be kept more private.

(I remember my husband's mom telling me when he and his brother and sister were kids they were playing cowboys and indians on his parents farm. He was the indian (how sad) and his brother and sister *cowboys* caught him, took him up to the hayloft and hung him out of the loft with a makeshift rope, thank god it didn't work... ) o.O

Anyway, my point is his parents could have very well sued the movie network for whatever show they picked that up from, but I doubt if the thought ever crossed their mind.

So, whether it's yesterday or today I think it all comes down to media exposure.

Parents certainly play a big role in how the lines of fantasy/reality can be played out by their children whether it's from reading books, watching movies or playing video games. They can only monitor their kids actions to a certain extent and certainly the best parents can't always read what is in the minds of their children. Maybe this poor kid had suicidal tendancies or something.

Sad.
#7 Nov 22 2005 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Before you know it Calculators will be outlawed, because they have the tendacy to make people push buttons to make large numbers appear. So that will "Obliviously" lead people into main stream capitalism making the big bucks and ******** over the little guy. See my logic is very concrete how could you not go along with it.

/sarcasm

Take your kid to a Hockey/Football/Baseball game or Disney world or whatever. Get them out of the house to enjoy things. How many of you remember Disney world or your first(Seeing is how most of you are american I'll stick to that) Baseball game. That was a great time wasn't it? You probably drummed up in your mind playing for the home team one day and for some time you acted as if you were. Sports have violence too right, so really it doesn't matter what your kid does it mainly lies in what the parents do and how they teach their kids. Pointing fingers just doesn't help, seriously its your kid, you should have some influence.

-Calvern
#8 Nov 22 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
I feel no sympathy for anybody in this. All I see is some dumbass kid, 13 years of age, who should have known better, kill himself. Then you have the parents, who decided that it's a videogames fault instead of their own parenting, and possibly that their kid is a damned ******, sue Blizzard.

You see it all over the news. Kid does some stupid ****, parents blame everybody else but themselves. You NEVER see a parent say to the camera, "Hey, you know what? I should have spent more time with him. Maybe it wasn't wise getting my 10 year old boy an 'M' rated game."

By the way, in case anybody hasn't noticed, this is what scientists like to call "Survival of the fittest". Every species on the planet has it's own survival traits. Some fly, others run, some swim, we got some with camouflage, others fight back. Humans think. If you're a human, and you can't think, laws of nature take over. Not saying everybody with some mental handicap should die, that's not my place. But when you see some 13 y/o kid decided to "re-enact a scene from a videogame" and ends up killing himself, hey, that's stupid. My brother works for the railroad, I hear a whole bunch of stories about stupid people, who end up getting hurt and killed.

Some ****** decided to take his chances with outrunning several thousand tons of train to the railroad crossing, ended up getting clipped by it, car goes flying 50 yards, guy dies. His fault. Trains can't stop on a dime, takes more than a few city blocks, they can't turn, they are on tracks.

You know that annoying horn they blow while moving through town? They have to, by law. I can't remember the exact distance, but let's say 100 feet before each crossing, they have to sound their whistle in a certain pattern until they cross it. That's telling all those idiot drivers out there "Hey, I'm a big freaking train, I'm coming through, I can't stop, I can't turn, so stay the hell outta my way."

I'm sure somewhere in that kids mind, his common sense whistle was blowing in his head. "Hey kid, this aint smart, looks kinda dangerous here, maybe you shouldn't do this." Kid decided he was smarter than common sense, he paid the price for it.

Parents are doing two things, blaming somebody else for the actions of their son, and in part, themselves. It's always easier to cope that way. Everybody elses fault but their own. Then they are also trying to capitilize on it.
#9 Nov 22 2005 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I nominate this for as the "most lucid comment in 2005":

> By the way, in case anybody hasn't noticed, this is what
> scientists like to call "Survival of the fittest". ...
> If you're a human, and you can't think, laws of nature
> take over.

People forget, even our our civilized society where we try to protect everyone, Darwin still rules supreme.

That said, I cannot react to this callously. I feel sympathy for the parents. I don't wish the pain of losing a child on anyone.

Of all things you worry about as a parent, having your child jump to their death while re-enacting a scene from a video game doesn't rank particularly high.

The grief of losing a child is utterly impossible to express, and it's easy to see how a ...zealous... lawyer might convince the parents that an odious lawsuit, like the one mentioned, is the only way they'll find any level of comfort. (e.g. Jack Thompson )

The law suit is frivilous, and I hope the parents can come to their senses before they get any inane law enacted, collect some unjust compensation from Vivendi, or ruin themselves seeking comfort where there is none.

Not that I'm excusing the parents from their responsiblity -- but for all I know, their kid was saying "Hey, I'm going off to the the tourney with Ming after school, see you for dinner!"
#10 Nov 22 2005 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
For some reason the Chinese community takes their in-game lives very seriously. There was another story of a Chinese youth whose friend had ripped him off in-game. The kid had then went down to his friends house and demanded his virtual property be returned. However, his friend had refused, and in retaliation the kid later broke in, and stabbed his friend to death with a replica sword.

I mean, I can understand a serious ***-beating. Because let's face it, there's a lot of folks in-game that deserve it. Now dont' get me wrong, I sure as heck would never kill anyone.

I don't know about anyone else, but if someone jacked me for all my hard work, I would be pissed. I'm sorry, but I would want to fight(but not kill).
#11 Nov 22 2005 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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"I don't know about anyone else, but if someone jacked me for all my hard work, I would be pissed. I'm sorry, but I would want to fight(but not kill)."

If someone ripped me off id just complain and leave it lol, beating someone up for stealing an item or what not just gives the parents more reason to sue.

#12 Nov 22 2005 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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you know what the best part of that article was? the title claims its about a youth dying as a result of their own stupidity, and yet that only takes one-three sentences. the rest is some long-drawn ramble about how much money the industry is making...


is it just me or am i the only one who thought that that article went everywhere and nowhere?
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