You all ******* fail.
250 people for Besieged. 70 in thickets, probably 50ish in Mire.
All of you people that refused to take off 30min of their meriting just ****** everyone over for the next week, including yourselves.
The JP's never have a problem hitting 700+ for Besieged, NA's can't even break 400 on a WEEKEND. You lazy pieces of ****.
That is all.
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... Says one of the people who was out meriting in Bhaflau Thickets that same day ...
And even if so... Do you honestly believe that the 100+ people in Bhaflau Thickets and Caedarva Mire are gonna waste 30 minutes of their time just to go to a possibly overcrowded besieged just because "We HAVE to save Al Zahbi", then 30 mins later find some other exp pt took their camp? Some people have events going on that day as well, man. You might wanna be careful to judge these things based on the fact other people have other things to do.
What I find sad, though, is the fact no one wanted to save the Astral Candescence from the Mamools... Yeah we all know the Japanese will get it back for us with a nice comment along the line of "Stupid NAs cant do anything right". But still, its our problem. We should have tried to get it back.
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:01am EDT by Marleau
And even if so... Do you honestly believe that the 100+ people in Bhaflau Thickets and Caedarva Mire are gonna waste 30 minutes of their time just to go to a possibly overcrowded besieged just because "We HAVE to save Al Zahbi", then 30 mins later find some other exp pt took their camp? Some people have events going on that day as well, man. You might wanna be careful to judge these things based on the fact other people have other things to do.
What I find sad, though, is the fact no one wanted to save the Astral Candescence from the Mamools... Yeah we all know the Japanese will get it back for us with a nice comment along the line of "Stupid NAs cant do anything right". But still, its our problem. We should have tried to get it back.
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:01am EDT by Marleau
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... Says one of the people who was out meriting in Bhaflau Thickets that same day ...
LMAO!!
If I was on, I highly doubt I'd be fighting either. I hate the lag and I think Besieged sucks.
i think King behemoth was gonna pop too? not sure..but i think his window was during besieged... same thing happened last time we lost.. it was during a Fafhogg window..
i'm not at all saying besieged is better than a king pop.. just saying it was during those times :D
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:30am EDT by Nesssie
i'm not at all saying besieged is better than a king pop.. just saying it was during those times :D
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:30am EDT by Nesssie
Uhh, I was meriting before besieged was going to take place. Unfortunately I was stuck fighting gods and my leader wanted me in every single fight so I had no choice. But the people exping in ToAU zones really should care about losing the 15% EXP BONUS that having the AC gives you. Oh yeah and you can't use Runic Portals now. SO EXP IN TOAU JUST GOT RUINED. So for all the people complaining about Besieged being a 'waste of time' think about the HUGE waste of time that doing anything in ToAU areas is going to be. We don't even have Runic Portals open to find out where all the new NM's are. Yeah, GG guys.
Edit: And oh yeah, last time we lost the AC, the JP's didn't get it back right away, it took a couple days. Lets hope they can fix things up quicker this time around or we're all ****** for this update coming out.
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:32am EDT by SirEaglestrike
Edit: And oh yeah, last time we lost the AC, the JP's didn't get it back right away, it took a couple days. Lets hope they can fix things up quicker this time around or we're all ****** for this update coming out.
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 1:32am EDT by SirEaglestrike
So you are mad at us not being there when you wernt there as well? gg stfu
I'm mad at the people that could have easily taken 30min to go back to town to save the exp they were currently working on from turning into pure **** once all was lost. I'm at every besieged unless I have a very important LS event (I have skipped LS events for Besieged...lol) and/or there are over 400 people in the zone so it's almost a 100% chance of win. Or if I'm sleeping, of course...
beseiged is ******** and not at all fun. so what if the astral whatsit gets jacked. unlike most of the "ZOMG TOAU ONRY I NEED MORE IS AND CHAIN 200s" NAs, im happy exping in sky or even lufaise. THAT is why i didnt go. cause i could honestly care less and until SE makes beseiged fun (never lol), i wont be making a serious effort.
**** you double post.
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 2:14am EDT by Ayazz
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 2:14am EDT by Ayazz
Hurrah, I guess I am off the hook, being in the JP timezone :P
I guess cuz LoH was in sky he couldnt take 30min like the rest of us to make sure hes happy. Next time ill stop xping or crafting or w/e im doing to defend your precious LoH. YES MASTA
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You all @#%^ing fail.
250 people for Besieged. 70 in thickets, probably 50ish in Mire.
All of you people that refused to take off 30min of their meriting just @#%^ed everyone over for the next week, including yourselves.
The JP's never have a problem hitting 700+ for Besieged, NA's can't even break 400 on a WEEKEND. You lazy pieces of sh*t.
That is all.
250 people for Besieged. 70 in thickets, probably 50ish in Mire.
All of you people that refused to take off 30min of their meriting just @#%^ed everyone over for the next week, including yourselves.
The JP's never have a problem hitting 700+ for Besieged, NA's can't even break 400 on a WEEKEND. You lazy pieces of sh*t.
That is all.
You fail for being upset over a collection of pixels on a screen.
You were doing the same thing, and even show up there to defend it. Don't whine about something being lost that you played no hand in protecting.
Stop with the NA/JP comparison, the JP are not that superior anymore. They haven't been since the claim patch.
And for the love of god, think before you say something stupid. When your brain has successfully ******** itself from your ******, do come back and contribute something worth the electricity I expend to come to this site.
That is all.
I don't care if you think Besieged is fun or not. Fact is that ToAU exp rocks pre-ToAU exp easy. If you still prefer pre-ToAU exp, take your parties there and relieve everyone of another parties presence. Funny how you were exping yesterday morning in Thickets, eh Ayaz?
Being in sky isn't just 30min with Besieged. It's closer to an hour from having to get back up to sky. If you're in an exp pt it takes you 1 minute to get back to Al Zahbi and it'll take you 1 minute to get back to your exp camp.
Were any of you guys the ones exping in ToAU zones at the time of the AC loss? It's quite obvious that's who I was specifically targetting in my post.
And yeah, anyone who was CURRENTLY EXPING in Thickets/Mire were immediately effected by the loss of the AC, it's just funny that they're too shortsighted to see what effect the AC does for them and from the responses here it's pretty clear that's just how a lot of NA's and EU's seem to be. Choky I hear you've been /sh that you'd rather have the AC gone so I'm unhappy. Please tell me how that makes any kind of logical sense. This means that nearly half the exp zones, and the better half of them, for merit parties ARE LESS EFFECTIVE and take far longer to get to. As well, with the addition of all the NM's in just a few hours we CANNOT GET TO THEM QUICKLY.
Cill, you fail because you don't get it. It's not that I'm pissed over a collection of pixels, you can't really see the AC when you're going through Al'Zahbi. I'm pissed that I lost my best meriting spots (which we all did), I'm pissed I lost sanction bonuses (which we all did) and I'm pissed we lost our exp bonus (which we ALL DID). If that doesn't negatively effect your gameplay you either don't have a job above level 55 or you don't play the game anymore. The loss of time involved in losing the AC is what I'm pissed at and it's funny how everyone here is ignoring that just because I said "zomg NA's and EU's suxxorz!" and you all got defensive. The NA's have lost the AC ALL THREE TIMES and as far as I know, the JP'S FIXED IT FOR US. Generally I prefer to party with english-speakers so I can actually communicate and such but fact remains the JP's work together better and they all get what the idea of Besieged is about, unlike us NA's and EU's. I thought after maybe the second AC loss things would get better but nope, we all still fail.
Being in sky isn't just 30min with Besieged. It's closer to an hour from having to get back up to sky. If you're in an exp pt it takes you 1 minute to get back to Al Zahbi and it'll take you 1 minute to get back to your exp camp.
Were any of you guys the ones exping in ToAU zones at the time of the AC loss? It's quite obvious that's who I was specifically targetting in my post.
And yeah, anyone who was CURRENTLY EXPING in Thickets/Mire were immediately effected by the loss of the AC, it's just funny that they're too shortsighted to see what effect the AC does for them and from the responses here it's pretty clear that's just how a lot of NA's and EU's seem to be. Choky I hear you've been /sh that you'd rather have the AC gone so I'm unhappy. Please tell me how that makes any kind of logical sense. This means that nearly half the exp zones, and the better half of them, for merit parties ARE LESS EFFECTIVE and take far longer to get to. As well, with the addition of all the NM's in just a few hours we CANNOT GET TO THEM QUICKLY.
Cill, you fail because you don't get it. It's not that I'm pissed over a collection of pixels, you can't really see the AC when you're going through Al'Zahbi. I'm pissed that I lost my best meriting spots (which we all did), I'm pissed I lost sanction bonuses (which we all did) and I'm pissed we lost our exp bonus (which we ALL DID). If that doesn't negatively effect your gameplay you either don't have a job above level 55 or you don't play the game anymore. The loss of time involved in losing the AC is what I'm pissed at and it's funny how everyone here is ignoring that just because I said "zomg NA's and EU's suxxorz!" and you all got defensive. The NA's have lost the AC ALL THREE TIMES and as far as I know, the JP'S FIXED IT FOR US. Generally I prefer to party with english-speakers so I can actually communicate and such but fact remains the JP's work together better and they all get what the idea of Besieged is about, unlike us NA's and EU's. I thought after maybe the second AC loss things would get better but nope, we all still fail.
LoH, I at least tried to do something. I was there at that besieged. There was just too many mobs, especially in the Hall of Binding.
And people say that Besieged sucks? I'd love to ask the people that "refused" to attend, those "Yawners", the ones sitting all day in Aht Urhgan Whitegate. Thats the group you should be talking to, LoH. They could have made a difference. Even then, some people don't want to do it or care about it. To be honest, Besieged isnt what it used to be, and even myself I am bored by it. Its not that it is easy... Its just that its the same thing every time. Its turning out to be a fad really fast.
[Please note, I am not talking to the ones that attended other events at the time (NM camping, sky, limbus, exp pts, etc), as they had prior obligations.]
As Ayaz noted, theres other areas to exp.... why fret? I've exp'd in Ro'Maeve quite a number of times a couple weeks ago. Just don't get your panties caught in a bunch over a game, LoH. Its just a game...
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 9:13am EDT by Marleau
And people say that Besieged sucks? I'd love to ask the people that "refused" to attend, those "Yawners", the ones sitting all day in Aht Urhgan Whitegate. Thats the group you should be talking to, LoH. They could have made a difference. Even then, some people don't want to do it or care about it. To be honest, Besieged isnt what it used to be, and even myself I am bored by it. Its not that it is easy... Its just that its the same thing every time. Its turning out to be a fad really fast.
[Please note, I am not talking to the ones that attended other events at the time (NM camping, sky, limbus, exp pts, etc), as they had prior obligations.]
As Ayaz noted, theres other areas to exp.... why fret? I've exp'd in Ro'Maeve quite a number of times a couple weeks ago. Just don't get your panties caught in a bunch over a game, LoH. Its just a game...
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 9:13am EDT by Marleau
highest job lvl 31 ftw! In which I only understood half of this, but the drama is quite suspensful.
As a 31, you'll get it eventually. But the more you level up, the more flames and drama you'll encounter. Best of luck!
yes!! lol. but I used to be lvl 61 until my dad made me quit. /sigh
You lose more than just exp areas/bonus when AC is lost. Now NM hunting after the update is going to suck =P And before ToAU most exp zones were packed, U.Range and Sky were capable of 10k+/hour with a good party but there had to be no competition, which was hard. In Thickets you can get over 10k/hour with 3 other parties camping at the same place.
Only uncamped place to exp left is Sea, but no one ever wants to go to sea. I'm sure many people want to test out the new merit traits/abilities tomorrow, but most exp camps are going to be absolutely packed...
Only uncamped place to exp left is Sea, but no one ever wants to go to sea. I'm sure many people want to test out the new merit traits/abilities tomorrow, but most exp camps are going to be absolutely packed...
Here...would you like a tissue?
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Now NM hunting after the update is going to suck =P
NM hunting sucks, period. Boohoo to Zenmetsu and all the other HNM hunting people out there for not supplying us with the drama we know and love. As Agrias said:
Agrias wrote:
Here...would you like a tissue?
Next?
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but most exp camps are going to be absolutely packed...
Aren't they always?
Thing is, LoH, EVERYONE knew about how annoying these areas are PRE-Update.
Why bother complaining about it now? If yesterday was any indicator, and if you're interested, I have sea access.... Why don't we exp there? Come on, it will be fun!
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 11:42am EDT by Marleau
Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 11:41am EDT by Marleau
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All I ever seem to notice LadyOfHonor doing is crying about something, maybe PMT? That time of the month?
Dude... Get over yourself, what did you do pre-TOAoU? You meritted in Sky, Lufaise, U.Range or Sea. You're crying about your OWN FAILURE. Who gives a flying %^&* about it, it's ******* like you who refuse to go anywhere but the new areas to exp because you're too scared you're going to lose 10k/hour exp. IT CAN BE DONE IN OTHER AREAS. Maybe you never figured that out?
You sound like a pre-teen kid who just lost their ice-cream. Grow the **** up already.
Dude... Get over yourself, what did you do pre-TOAoU? You meritted in Sky, Lufaise, U.Range or Sea. You're crying about your OWN FAILURE. Who gives a flying %^&* about it, it's ******* like you who refuse to go anywhere but the new areas to exp because you're too scared you're going to lose 10k/hour exp. IT CAN BE DONE IN OTHER AREAS. Maybe you never figured that out?
You sound like a pre-teen kid who just lost their ice-cream. Grow the **** up already.
I know it can be done in other areas and I have done it. But no AC dramatically decreases the ease of which many camps are accessed and therefore crowds the other camps. When ToAU areas are open, everyone goes there and that makes sure the old camps are wide open 99% of the time. But without them being right there for everyone, other places are camped. There were two parties already in Lufaise when I was going to head there this morning. There are so many people end-game there needs to be a ton of camps, losing the AC closes a few camps to people and they crowd others. ToAU relieved a lot of the stress on old exp spots but losing the AC puts that stress right back on them. Oh yeah and for those with only 0-2 merits two days before the patch losing the best exp camps isn't a good way to make it to 10 before the merit expansion.
As for NM hunting, I doubt Zen will be one of the first crews out there to kill new NM's. Sure it's possible, but a more skilled LS, like DL who had a full merit party in Thickets at the time of losing the AC /slap Blaize, is going to be out there. As well, there could be minor NM's that just a few people can go out and find. Now it's far more difficult for that group of friends to get around.
And JohnQq, who are you? And where do you get that I'm crying? lol...most of my posts have nothing to do with that. I'm just ******** in this topic, so please show me where all I do is cry.
As for NM hunting, I doubt Zen will be one of the first crews out there to kill new NM's. Sure it's possible, but a more skilled LS, like DL who had a full merit party in Thickets at the time of losing the AC /slap Blaize, is going to be out there. As well, there could be minor NM's that just a few people can go out and find. Now it's far more difficult for that group of friends to get around.
And JohnQq, who are you? And where do you get that I'm crying? lol...most of my posts have nothing to do with that. I'm just ******** in this topic, so please show me where all I do is cry.
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/sigh LoH
We lose besieged because of the people that go are All Loljob(drgs) and under level people looking for an easy 700 exp. Last time we lost to undead i saw about 13-15 mages melee a mob next to the galkan general while he was being killed. 13-15 smn, whm, rdm could noo toss him a cure in the window of about 60-90 seconds.
Also LoH you lose all your credibility because you were in sky while we lost so honestly you have no right to ***** at anyone.
/stalk on <_<;
We lose besieged because of the people that go are All Loljob(drgs) and under level people looking for an easy 700 exp. Last time we lost to undead i saw about 13-15 mages melee a mob next to the galkan general while he was being killed. 13-15 smn, whm, rdm could noo toss him a cure in the window of about 60-90 seconds.
Also LoH you lose all your credibility because you were in sky while we lost so honestly you have no right to ***** at anyone.
/stalk on <_<;
Yeah Goldo but you know I'm at most Besiegeds =P Being in sky at an LS event is quite different from being in a merit party in a ToAU area where exp and access depends on the AC lol People that say "idc" while they're taking advantage of the benefits **** me off, the point of this thread.
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I doubt Zen will be one of the first crews out there to kill new NM's. Sure it's possible, but a more skilled LS, like DL who had a full merit party in Thickets at the time of losing the AC /slap Blaize, is going to be out there.
Where are DL nowadays? Um. I've not seen them camp anything in a long time.. If at all over the past few months. I know they were once a good LS, but now you don't hear of them doing anything at all. Everyone under-estimates Zenmetsu, you all think just cause some of the people in the LS bot that we aren't skilled players, when infact we are more skilled that alot of other LS's out there. I think you all need to take a step back and look around, most of the "big" HNM LS's have dissaperated within the last year, all they do nowadays is farm sky (big wow!) or do dynamis.
I can't say with 100% certainty we will be out there, but there is a good chance we will sure as hell try.
Also, why do you have to bring Zen into this? I think it's about time Shiva grew the **** up and got on with the game rather than bring Zenmetsu into every topic/post that is made about the game.
I didn't bring Zen into it, they were mentioned by someone else =P
DL was first NA LS to kill Cerberus I believe, didn't they outclaim Nela for the first few days? And they just popped JoL twice the other night. I'm fairly certain they'll be out to find Hydra and the other beastmen 'kings' if that's what the other NM's are.
I won't make anymore comments about Zen because I don't want to derail my ***** thread, this is about how NA's are lazy asses and refuse to defend the AC, damnit.
DL was first NA LS to kill Cerberus I believe, didn't they outclaim Nela for the first few days? And they just popped JoL twice the other night. I'm fairly certain they'll be out to find Hydra and the other beastmen 'kings' if that's what the other NM's are.
I won't make anymore comments about Zen because I don't want to derail my ***** thread, this is about how NA's are lazy asses and refuse to defend the AC, damnit.
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