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#1 Jan 07 2004 at 12:54 AM Rating: Default
I don't wan't to sound like some newbie but what is Bard kiting?
I have a 36 Bard and never have know what this was.
I have alos Heard of Drruid Kiting again waht is it?
#2 Jan 07 2004 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Kiting is a process of killing mobs without getting into melee range. There are a few ways to do it. Simply, make sure you can run faster than the mob, cast nuke/dot spells, run away and let it follow. Druids do it well with their snares and powerful nukes. Necros use DoTs. As a bard, you'd twist Selo's with whatever damage spells you have, run around in circles.

There are other more advanced forms, like druid/wizard quad kiting, or bard chant/charm kiting.
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#3 Jan 07 2004 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
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What bards do is a total mystery to me. However druids I do know something about.

Druid kiting really starts at 34 when you get Lightening Storm a 4-target DD spell. The technique is to snare 4 mobs one by one and run around them until they are tightly packed. Working out why is a nice exercise in vector geometry. Then run to extreme range and cast your spell. All 4 take the hit (barring resists) and you run on further and cast again. Keep doing this until they are dead. Choice of mob is crucial. Similar mobs usually keep moving while they have friends with them so even on low health the "quad" stays intact.

If you pick 4 different types of creature then there is a real risk that on low health they will stop moving and you end up with nearly dead mobs strung out along the way. Also they need to have similar hp or you will have mobs dying along the way while you waste mana using a 4-target spell on 2 or 3 mobs. In busty zones there is also a chance of people looting the dead ones while you finish the rest.

Some apparently suitable mobs turn out not to be. I tried quad-kiting timber griffons and the stupid birds have no idea how to behave in a quad.

Druids can also go in for charm-kiting but I'll let someone else tell you about that one since I've never tried it.
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#4 Jan 07 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Bard Kiting

twist selo's plus 4 or 5 DoTs on the mob til its dead


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get a huge train of mobs behind u ( hopefully very social ones). then charm one and send him into the pack of others. right before he dies break the charm and kill him off with dots. rinse and repeat making sure that you dont cause anyother aggro except the charm/dot. highly effective but takes some practice.


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#5 Jan 07 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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What bards do is a total mystery to me. However druids I do know something about.

Druid kiting really starts at 34 when you get Lightening Storm a 4-target DD spell. The technique is to snare 4 mobs one by one and run around them until they are tightly packed. Working out why is a nice exercise in vector geometry. Then run to extreme range and cast your spell. All 4 take the hit (barring resists) and you run on further and cast again. Keep doing this until they are dead. Choice of mob is crucial. Similar mobs usually keep moving while they have friends with them so even on low health the "quad" stays intact.

If you pick 4 different types of creature then there is a real risk that on low health they will stop moving and you end up with nearly dead mobs strung out along the way. Also they need to have similar hp or you will have mobs dying along the way while you waste mana using a 4-target spell on 2 or 3 mobs. In busty zones there is also a chance of people looting the dead ones while you finish the rest.

Some apparently suitable mobs turn out not to be. I tried quad-kiting timber griffons and the stupid birds have no idea how to behave in a quad.

Druids can also go in for charm-kiting but I'll let someone else tell you about that one since I've never tried it.


That is quad kiting, they chose 4 becuase thier AoE spells only hit 4 targets in once cast.

Kiting - Imagine playing with a kite. You run ahead, pulling the kite with a string. The kite stays behind you even as you zig zag thru the park.

EQ Kiting - (Typical Druid, I suggest you wait till you get ENsnare with 10 min duration, snare with its 2 min duration is nerve wracking) I have been kiting Giants in GD for 4 levels with my, now, level 30 druid. Ensnare, DoTx5, wash, rinse, repeat till dead. With KEI this was increadibly easy. Then they made the changes to fix the bug that allowed me to get KEI. This became MUCH harder as I had no mana afterwards.

Bards are a mystery to all us non-bards. We only notice when they sing hp/mana regen songs or resist songs. Sorry no help in that department.
#6 Jan 07 2004 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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From a warrior viewpoint, Kiting is the mystifying process of running away from a mob and somehow still killing it.

To the untrained eye, Kiting can look an awful lot like someone in need of help...my warrior learned the hard way that it's best to stay out of this.

Kiting can ALSO look an awful lot like someone trying to pull a gigantic train onto you...especially in the case of bard "swarm" kiting. I don't know if it's still possible after the recent changes in bard abilities, but I remember one time my poor group sat shaking in our boots on the hill in Plane of Nightmare while some bard kept running a train of...well, I lost count at 30...very scary, very aggressive mobs back and forth near the in/out zone. When asked to stop, said bard said "But this is GREAT experience!"

A couple requests (that I think a lot of people would agree with): When you're learning how to kite...start small, in a low-population zone, and try to stay away from any groups in the area....and if you choose to kite in a heavily populated zone, PLEASE make sure you have good aggro so the mobs don't peel out of the train onto unsuspecting victims =) Oh yeah...and please keep your mobs away from the zonelines as much as possible =)
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