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#1 Oct 03 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
Ok Hi Everyone im new here and I think that The Following classes Are Good For EQ soloing and grouping. and ones that suck.

Necromancers are good only if you know how to use em right.

Bards strait up suck cause you can only play 1 at a time.

Warriors. Only reason i like cause they can use most gear.

Shamans, are pretty good with there spells but not as good as wizards, and other mages.

Clerics, They ok i mean for grouping for a hard mob that always hurts u and i like temp:)

Druids, It claims SoW is the best spell, Barb Shamans get that earlyer than druids...

Bezerkers suck.

Beast lords are fun. You get a different creature within certain Lvls So ur not stuck wit the same skelaton look always.

Mage, They ok For pet, magic spells necromancers are better.

Wizards, I like em alot they good spell casters and i like the transportin spells.

Paladin, They just Sucky warrior/cleric

ShadowKnight again Half breeds tend to suck alot sometimes this class can be a good class if used right.

Enchanter. why would you wanna change into a illusion just for looks u get no power ups but u can sneak into cities... or confuse players by going /a well it kinda gets boring but its a pretty good class for spell enchants and flying sword:)

Monks, They suck nobody plays em anymore

Rouge, Never tryed you tell me if they good or not

Ps. I wish those big boats still worked into EQ I hate Pok I lag to death, I wish there was other transportation besides transportation.

Question:) if U dont run the patch In EQ like if i go to settings and Type PatchMe Will my game messup or will i lag more or will my settions not be updated?
#2 Oct 03 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Oct 03 2004 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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Kill me now... please.

Edited, Sun Oct 3 17:47:52 2004 by lagduff
#4 Oct 03 2004 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm...I see flames in this thread's future.
#5 Oct 03 2004 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, it reeks of sockpuppet...
#6 Oct 03 2004 at 5:14 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still dumbstruck... but after reading the post again, all i can do is giggle.

<left eye twitches>

Ok Hi Everyone im new here (yes from reading your post below we can gather that)and I think that The Following classes Are Good For EQ soloing and grouping. and ones that suck

(no I would say that you just suck at playing them).

Necromancers are good only if you know how to use em right.

(and the right way would be?)

Bards strait up suck cause you can only play 1 at a time.

(god helps us if you ever get a second account!)

Warriors. Only reason i like cause they can use most gear.

(and your mum lets you use her credit card to buy the gear on ebay)

Shamans, are pretty good with there spells but not as good as wizards, and other mages.

(and all these years I thought Shaman were a priest class! Better start raising my Shaman's INT for mana...)

Clerics, They ok i mean for grouping for a hard mob that always hurts u and i like temp:)

(Well learn to assist the MT and stop wasting the clerics mana, because you keep getting agro)

Druids, It claims SoW is the best spell, Barb Shamans get that earlyer than druids...

(you realy don't have a clue do you?)

Bezerkers suck.

(... are you going to tell us why they suck or do we have to guess?)

Beast lords are fun. You get a different creature within certain Lvls So ur not stuck wit the same skelaton look always.

(WTF? My Iksar beastlord is my Main toon. He's had the same Scalebeast Warder for the last 57 levels. You have no idea at all what you are talking about.)

Mage, They ok For pet, magic spells necromancers are better.

(but shaman are worse than both right?)

Wizards, I like em alot they good spell casters and i like the transportin spells.

(Clerics, They ok i mean for grouping for a hard mob that always hurts u)(...you play a Wizard don't you and you're always looking for a rez, when grouped... tell me I'm wrong.)

Paladin, They just Sucky warrior/cleric

(groan! it just gets worse...)

ShadowKnight again Half breeds tend to suck alot sometimes this class can be a good class if used right.

(so you nuked on incoming, with your L337 Wizard skillz and you're pissed at the SK for not keeping agro?)

Enchanter. why would you wanna change into a illusion just for looks u get no power ups but u can sneak into cities... or confuse players by going /a well it kinda gets boring but its a pretty good class for spell enchants and flying sword:)

(I'm still chuckling at the flying swords comment...)

Monks, They suck nobody plays em anymore

(you're right! ...and they can't nuke as well as Necro's and Mage's!

Rouge, Never tryed you tell me if they good or not
(it's not Rouge, it's ROGUE! you moron...)

Ps. I wish those big boats still worked into EQ I hate Pok I lag to death, I wish there was other transportation besides transportation.

(I think you should just quit EQ and go back to playing Nintendo)

Question:) if U dont run the patch In EQ like if i go to settings and Type PatchMe Will my game messup or will i lag more or will my settions not be updated?

(what do you think, because I don't care...)



Edited, Sun Oct 3 18:19:53 2004 by lagduff
#7 Oct 03 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Beast lords are fun. You get a different creature within certain Lvls So ur not stuck wit the same skelaton look always.


Where is my skeleton? I want just one; no need to get greedy with different skeleton looks...
#8 Oct 03 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
Wow, you don't know anything do you.

ps You forgot Rangers.

Monks suck???? Look at the perfect group threads, Monks are often involved, as you get a puller, and the second highest sustained DPS in the game, they can also take a hit, unlike your feeble wizard. Yea, they suck.

Have you ever played with an enchanter? What about haste, slowing, debuffing, mana regen and mez. That stuff is boring.
#9 Oct 03 2004 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
Oh and Druids are waayyyy better than Wizards. nanni-nanni-na-na!

Kiting, big blasts, healing, transportation, buffing, charming, and general kicking ***.

Ohh yea, and I forgot that what is considered by many to be the most overpowered class in the game suck too. Bards that is.

ps I think bards should be gods, makes up for the carpal.
#10 Oct 03 2004 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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#12 Oct 03 2004 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
Whoa this isn't me. If i wanted to troll I would have done a much better job than this thank you kindly.





#13 Oct 03 2004 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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Monks suck???? Look at the perfect group threads, Monks are often involved, as you get a puller, and the second highest sustained DPS in the game, they can also take a hit, unlike your feeble wizard. Yea, they suck.

second highest sustained dps if the people you are being compared to are afk, maybe...
#14 Oct 03 2004 at 8:47 PM Rating: Good
Who is ahead of you?
#15 Oct 03 2004 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
rogues, wizards, rangers for msot of the game, mages,an enchanter charming, usually necromancers, warriors in some cases (sotranscendence monk is a tid bit worse than dbow + timeweaver warrior. before raidlevel weaps, yeah, monks > wars.)
#16 Oct 03 2004 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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rangers for msot of the game

Pfft, now I know you are lying. Let just say from level 1-59, what makes rangers due more damage, is it their their "kick", Natural Haste, what is it that puts them on top? Is it their nukes that decrease their DPS, all their special attack? Please tell me what it is, that put ranger on top. Rangers may be on top post EQ/AM3 with an elemental bow for a while, but that is about it.
#17 Oct 03 2004 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
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Pfft, now I know you are lying. Let just say from level 1-59, what makes rangers due more damage, is it their their "kick", Natural Haste, what is it that puts them on top? Is it their nukes that decrease their DPS, all their special attack? Please tell me what it is, that put ranger on top. Rangers may be on top post EQ/AM3 with an elemental bow for a while, but that is about it.

1-59 does not matter.

a monk, levels 1-59 will outdamage a ranger if his weapon costs more than the ranger's did, a ranger 1-59 will outdamage the monk if his weapon cost more than the monk's did.

besides. pre-59, ranger nukes increase dps, not decrease.
#18 Oct 03 2004 at 9:12 PM Rating: Good
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besides. pre-59, ranger nukes increase dps, not decrease.

to clarify this, at 59, rangers get a 450 point nuke. not factoring in resists, that is 180 dps. at 59, without aas, I doubt any ranger does anywhere NEAR that in melee, even after factoring in resists.
#19 Oct 03 2004 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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Bezerkers suck.

Congratulations! You got one answer right. Now, go play with your gameboy.
#20 Oct 03 2004 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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1-59 does not matter.


Really?

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to clarify this, at 59, rangers get a 450 point nuke. not factoring in resists, that is 180 dps


You are joking right, are you telling me a ranger can nuke for 180dps at level 59?

Calefaction

Allah's Spell data wrote:
Theoretical max unadjusted DPS: 9


9 is a little lower than 180.

Yes and I know you can cast calefaction, and then Icewind, for positive DPS gain. but you still lose 5.5 seconds of melee, which I would guess that I do about at least 80 dps at level 59. So lets see, do de do de do, I gain 800 damage and lose 480, for a net 320 damage gain. with a recast of 45 seconds on the Calefaction, and 18 seconds oin the icewind. Deadly I will admit. SO every 32ish seconds I get 320 spell damage, roughly, which mean a net gain of 10 DPS, taking me to roughly 90 DPS assuming no resists? How much does your best Monk special move do at level 59. How much melee damage do you lose for performing it, what is your DPS gain? Plus your natural haste.

Ok tell me what rangers have that put us on top? Which combination of AA's. EQ/AM3, is that it? This puts us on top forever more, right through time and into GoD, and now Omens? Or does most of the game constitute post EQ/AM3, and pre-time.

Edited, Sun Oct 3 22:42:29 2004 by Reinman
#21 Oct 03 2004 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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9 is a little lower than 180.

I was not talking overtime for calefaction dps, I was talking while you were casting it. in the 2.5 seconds it takes to cast celfaction, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't normally do 450 melee damage in that time.
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Yes and I know you can cast calefaction, and then Icewind, for positive DPS gain.

TAH-DAH! WE HAVE A WINNER! YOU CAN CAST NUKES FOR A DPS GAIN!
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but you still lose 5.5 seconds of melee, which I would guess that I do about at least 80 dps at level 59. So lets see, do de do de do, I gain 800 DPS and lose 480, for a net 320 DPS gain

uhmm...well, to begin with, you aren't gonna do 80 dps at level 59 with melee. and. uhm. you do realize its damage per second? so how do you gain 800 dps?

a level 65 paladin with 200ish worn attack does about 90 dps unbuffed with a 53/33 weapon, and full offensive aas. you are a 59 ranger wielding a piece of ****, you do the math, that ain't gonna be 80 dps.
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SO every 32ish seconds I get 320 spell damage, roughly, which mean a net gain of 10 DPS, taking me to roughly 90 DPS assuming no resists

yep! a 10 dps increase is nice.
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How much does your best Monk special move do at level 59. How much melee damage do you lose for performing it, what is your DPS gain?

my monk special move doesn't do ****, cause I'm not a monk. thesteelwarrior parses out monk special attacks to do about 10 dps, at 65, with 41% haste and 250 worn attack.
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Plus your natural haste

are you on ******* crack? monks don't get innate haste, except applying to their bare fists, with no weapon at all wielded. WHOOPTY DOO at 65 monks get a free 14/25 weapon!!!!!!!!

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Ok tell me what rangers have that put us on top? Which combination of AA's. EQ/AM3, is that it? This puts us on top forever more, right through time and into GoD, and now Omens? Or does most of the game constitute post EQ/AM3, and pre-time.

I never said rangers were top notch dps. I just said they were often better than monks. everywhere from level 59+eq/am3, up till EP raid weaponry, rangers will have a DISTINCT edge on monks.

as for post time, well, my logs say that even with a large weapon disadvantage (ranger 200 worn, potime weapon vs monk 250 worn, uqua and qvic weapons,) rangers are more-than-competitive with monks.

Edited, Sun Oct 3 22:57:02 2004 by czaemon
#22 Oct 03 2004 at 11:14 PM Rating: Good
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uhmm...well, to begin with, you aren't gonna do 80 dps at level 59 with melee. and. uhm. you do realize its damage per second? so how do you gain 800 dps?


Typo, don't be an idiot.

Ok you got me, I don't know much about Monks aside from hearsay, I will have to look into this more. I accepted everyones claims that monks were a firm number 2. I will find out if there is any credence to your claim, and get back with either an apology, or more fact and figures.




#23 Oct 04 2004 at 1:03 AM Rating: Good
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I never said rangers were top notch dps. I just said they were often better than monks. everywhere from level 59+eq/am3, up till EP raid weaponry, rangers will have a DISTINCT edge on monks.


www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-6989

This world famous parse seems to disagree with you.


Edited, Mon Oct 4 02:03:38 2004 by Reinman
#24 Oct 04 2004 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
I would listen to czae he knows what he is talking about.

Ranger DPS>monk dps....shoot in some cases War DPS>monk dps.
#25 Oct 04 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
LOL isn't it funny...let ANY thread go on long enough at it'll turn into a ranger thread!

this was my favorite btw;

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I wish there was other transportation besides transportation.
#26 Oct 04 2004 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, there are some real gems here...

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Paladin, They just Sucky warrior/cleric


I think there's supposed to be an "are" in there somewhere... otherwise, you're a pervert.

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ShadowKnight again Half breeds tend to suck alot sometimes this class can be a good class if used right


Generally, it's considered to be pretty rude to call someone a halfbreed (even half elves don't like that, it's just not kosher). And SK's are HYBRIDS, as in a combination of multiple classes.

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Bards strait up suck cause you can only play 1 at a time.


Which would explain the existence of the all bard guild, Molto Espressivo, on FV. And yes, they do have all bard groups.
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