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#27 Apr 25 2005 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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malcontent wrote:
Not really on topic or is it?

Why does everyone who quits playing EQ feel the need to broadcast it in a public forum?

Maybe I'm mistaken, maybe you all really care about this crap.

So, just in case you do. I wish to inform everyone I'm going to quit playing with myself in the shower on Fridays after eating at Burger King. I'm doing this becuase they have a new sandwitch that I don't like.


I have no problems with people voicing their concerns about game changes. I would love to see the Exchange moved to EQ1. Make it a single server and don't allow transfers out. I would much rather have the idiots in a single place so I can avoid them rather than meet up with them at the wrong time.

Face the facts, you're quitting the game becuase you don't enjoy it anymore. Irrevelant is the fact SoE is bringing some BS to DIFFERENT game.

/finger
/rude
/quit




Ohh Mr Charmer.

And I'm sorry but anybody that eats at BurgerKing deserves whatever they get.

ohh and a headsup for the future... it's because ...


A shining example of what EQ has become, sad really.
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#28 Apr 25 2005 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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While malkindred's post is fairly blunt, i do agree with alot of the things he said. I get really tired of anyone using any change to up and cancel and quit.

I also find it highly amusing that those who quit the game still follow message boards regarding the game. if you are so discontent with the game, why not just drop it completely and fill your free time with other activities instead of continuing to frequent a board about a game you allegedly no longer care enough about to continue subscribing.
#29 Apr 25 2005 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
damn strsight..youll be back.. anyone who is sop addicted as to be watching this site when they dont even play the game will deffinately come back to the game..ive heard people say that 100's of times (mostly from the same person) youll be back soon enough..see ya later

#30 Apr 25 2005 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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#31 Apr 26 2005 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
Anexkahn wrote:
...why not just drop it completely and fill your free time with other activities instead of continuing to frequent a board about a game you allegedly no longer care enough about to continue subscribing.


I think the point in this thread is that Mr. Tiedye does care. If he didn't, you are right, he would already have moved on. Having known him in-game he has always been a very optimistic player even when I run around screaming that the Norrathian sky is falling, yet I am still here and he is gone.

Nay, Anexkahn, he cares very much, and we who knew him in-game are sad to see him go.
#33 Apr 27 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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omg is this post ever gonna fade away?

/yawn
#34 Apr 28 2005 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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omg is this post ever gonna fade away?


Not if people keep bumping it by asking "omg is this post ever gonna fade away?"

:p
#35 Jul 24 2005 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
Tomorrow marks the end of the third month 'Mr. Tie Dye' has been offline. Most of you never find out if the person talking about quiting has left for real or not, but this one I know personally.

You are missed, Mr. Tie Dye.
/mourn
#36 Jul 24 2005 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
I was suprised I didnt see more posts like this when station exchange went live. EQ1 actually probably benefited from all the people leaving EQ2 and flocking back to EQ1. IF this were to go to EQ1 I am sure this forum would be flooded. As servers merge and guilds die its not as easy to be so smug about messages people post when they are quitting.
#37 Jul 24 2005 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
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its not as easy to be so smug about messages people post when they are quitting.

yeah it is.
#38 Jul 25 2005 at 12:34 AM Rating: Decent
you are insane i am buying eq platnum soon and you are a idiot for doing this staion just wanted to end the undergroud dealings so they made the exchange system they jeperdised there oun code to protect it
#39 Jul 25 2005 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hm, no idea what the previous poster said, but thanks for that fine example of authentic gibberish.

ANYWAY - I'm ambivalent about this. It's sad to me that people demand the easy way out, preferring to pay cash than to put forth some effort. In the context of the game I think they're losing out; but I've always thought so.

On the other hand, this could work out nicely for that server/those servers. It can, in theory, reduce the monopolization of camps for good items. If SOE is selling those items for cash, and at presumably competitive prices compared with IGE and the like, then players will be allowed to play the game, and there will be no profit margin in disrupting that game play.

The other side, which no one seems to have touched upon, is that this may give SOE a solid legal basis for going after third-party auctioneers. Once the arena is changed to real-world money, they can then complain in court on a variety of torts.

I'll be interested to see what happens.
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#40 Jul 25 2005 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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I think it's a great idea as long as they follow a few simple rules:


  • Create a new Exchange server(s) and keep it off existing servers
    [li] Allow free transfers to the new Exchange server(s)
    [li] DO NOT allow transfers from the Exchange server(s) to any existing servers for any reason
    [li] Sell the items and Plat cheap enough to make online sales (i.e. Yantis) no longer profitable.
    [li] Vigirously persue any other form of PP/Item selling outside of their new service to protect their profits or whatever


  • This allows for players that want to see how much money they can spend to be uberer than each other to have their very own Twink servers to play on and hopefully discourage ITEM/PP sales on existing servers.
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    #41 Jul 25 2005 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
    I am noob and everyone can tell me with out hurting my feeling that I am lame. Flames ok I can ignore them. That said I think That the Game can handle the change. It is no different than someone PLing and twikleing a friend that has never played. The end result is there are players in the game at all lev who don't know how to play. And there are stuffy I've been here long enough to be your daddy types at all levels, Lets not forget the adolesent I can talk dirty and tell my friends how lame everyone is type at all lev. Then there is the majority of player that curtious and kind and they also are at all lv. This is a vir world but just like RL the more diversity in it makes it a richer experence for everyone. I would love to see a non twinkable server at same time. A world where the venders sell only consumables and tradeskill Items. And maybe a PVP zone where all servers can get together and have turneys. No xp or looting just a prize for each participant. I think change is good and as a bussiness SOE is bound to follow the masses
    #42 Jul 25 2005 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
    This reminds me of the guy that marries a prostitute and then gets upset when he finds out she's been doing tricks on the side. Did you expect anything different?

    SOE is a corporation. The prime duty of any corporation is to make a profit. If you expect anything more then you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.

    Lets look at this realisticly for a second. There is NOTHING legally that SOE can do to combat the selling of in-game items. I suppose if SOE had an army they could charge the Chinese embassey and demand that IGE surrender but that's not quite realistic. It's a case of "if you can't beat them then join them". Seems like a common sense approach to me. I personally have no problem with the way they have handled this problem.

    To each their own I suppose. Enjoy playing WoW.

    #43 Jul 25 2005 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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    I would quit at the point when there is SE for all servers. If it is only on some servers, then the people that are farming for plat and ebaying characters are naturally going to go there.

    Who is going to risk ebay now that they can do it legally and play on an SE server?

    If farmers go to that server, it will make mine better.
    #44 Jul 25 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
    I forgot to add, that change is only for EQ2. It does not affect EQ1 in the slightest.

    Seems kind of stupid to cancle your eq1 account for something that's happening in a completly different game. Lol

    You are probably a relativly intelligent person but like a lot of people, I don't think your opinions are well thought out and are probably more emotionally based rather then rationally thought out.



    Edited, Mon Jul 25 14:34:36 2005 by Grimleaper
    #45 Jul 25 2005 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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    I would quit at the point when there is SE for all servers. If it is only on some servers, then the people that are farming for plat and ebaying characters are naturally going to go there.

    Who is going to risk ebay now that they can do it legally and play on an SE server?

    ...

    I would still.

    plenty of buyers won't want to move to a SE server.

    Step 1: SE server lowers supply more than demand.

    Step 2: ...

    Step 3: PROFIT!
    #46 Jul 26 2005 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
    /wave
    #47 Jul 27 2005 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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    I have a hard time believing that once SE hits EQ that all the farmers will move off the regular servers.

    I think what it really comes down to is SOE wants a piece of the pie they're baking. All the greedy sellers got their fat fingers in it and now SOE will too.

    I don't think this will really change much.



    Oh ya and EQ is dead. /rolleyes



    #48 Jul 28 2005 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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    Tie, I've never met you, never even talked to you, but you're better off without this game. I quit a while back and have never been happier with my life. Quitting over Station Exchange is a good reason IMO, why should the people who are rich in real life be rewarded in game? Just because you can afford to buy plat or whatever doesn't mean you should, it takes away from gameplay. I've had a few friends who have bought adena on L2, myself included. It took so much fun from the game just thinking, "Oh theres no need to farm, I'll just drop a bit of money down and I'll have lots of ingame cash."

    I played EQ for the longest time, quit even before the Station exchange, but I, like you, would leave if I was still playing. I salute you Tie, and wish you well on whatever you decide to do with your free time now that you're gone from EQ.

    somedumbasswho'snameIdon'tfeellikescrollingdowntosee. wrote:
    You quit because their offering a legal avenue for something that occurs already. We've all used the bazaar as an in game system for generating in game money and equipment. Exchange idea is just an extension of that system into the real world. As for quiting a game over it, who really cares enough about "morals of devs" to quit a game? You play it cause you love it or you don't. If you had such strong feelings for the selling of ingame items for cash, prehaps you should have quit mmo's back in the day when this thing started and never started playing eq. Its gimps like you that make me worried for our species.


    It's people like YOU who tick me off, RMT is bad for games. Be it legit or not. More and more money will be placed into the game this way, with no way to get rid of it. Pretty soon all of your money will be worth jack sh[/b]it. Everquest is dying. It's been slowly dying since it was created, as we all have been. RMT is a cancer that makes the game die faster. Take a look at Lineage 2. RMT runs rampant there because the GM's don't give a flying fu[b]ck. That game is dead, there is nothing they can do about it. And even if they could, they wouldn't. That's how much money they get from the farmer's accounts.

    Take care Tie and the rest of you who aren't blind to the problems RMT brings to games.
    #49 Jul 28 2005 at 12:58 AM Rating: Good
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    It's people like YOU who tick me off, RMT is bad for games. Be it legit or not. More and more money will be placed into the game this way, with no way to get rid of it. Pretty soon all of your money will be worth jack ****. Everquest is dying. It's been slowly dying since it was created, as we all have been. RMT is a cancer that makes the game die faster. Take a look at Lineage 2. RMT runs rampant there because the GM's don't give a flying ****. That game is dead, there is nothing they can do about it. And even if they could, they wouldn't. That's how much money they get from the farmer's accounts.

    no.

    RMT didn't ruin lineage2.

    easy cash farms did

    people need to distinguish between RMT that don't generate any additional coins, and RMT that do (farming cash drops, macroing.)
    #50 Jul 28 2005 at 1:46 AM Rating: Good
    I don't get the big deal

    People will always buy items and plat......So why should SoE not profit from it? I mean it IS THEIR GAME why should they not profit from it? They can not stop it so why not join it?

    Personally I think it is a great idea. Plus they cannot violate their own EULA......they made their EULA....they can change it.....
    Maybe this will cut down on the EQplat sites.




    #51 Jul 28 2005 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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    elorianBLAH wrote:
    I don't get the big deal

    People will always buy items and plat......So why should SoE not profit from it? I mean it IS THEIR GAME why should they not profit from it? They can not stop it so why not join it?

    Personally I think it is a great idea. Plus they cannot violate their own EULA......they made their EULA....they can change it.....
    Maybe this will cut down on the EQplat sites.


    Making money and adding it into circulation without something to take it out will make money worth less and less over time. That's the main problem I have with it, apart from morals. Infact, it's better to "illegally" buy plat than to buy it from someone who just clicks a button and makes it. That money has already been made, and just changing hands won't hurt as much as if you were to get freshly made plat.
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