Allakhazam Poll: My group just wiped out..Follow

I enjoy the game, a wipe doesn't matter much ))

Just did Vxed tonight in a feeble attempt to get my 3rd piece of staff for the enc epic 1.5. Once we figured out where to go, we started clearing stuff, and I knew right then, we dont have enough DPS.

They told me to pull...

/g INC <<<( a cragbeast )>>> GET READY!!!

turns out there was another one pathing behind us.

LOADING....PLEASE WAIT.
ENTERING PLANE OF TRANQUILITY.

btw, Thanks Sony....Seven months, and countless SP's and no bliss.

Edited, Sat Jul 2 00:07:11 2005 by ghengisjon

lol It was my fault...i was exp'ing in PC on my alt and i was the puller....pulled a Leeroy Jenkins and pulled the whole camp

what did I do? hit the power button the pc and walked away in disgust

Hmmm a chanter finding it amusing that he/she can out agro a warrior. Grats on THAT discovery!! You must be SO proud. There really should be a mandatory EQ IQ exam.

my group just wiped except for me cuz i FD =D got to love SK's

I'd have to say the worst wipe I ever experienced was in plane of time. Not only did the group wipe, but the entire raid wiped and we all knew it would happen. On one of the upper tiers when each section is pulled one at a time and (by our method) AOE'd with stuns/AOE nukes to clear - the puller decided to pull all 4 simultaneously. I've never seen a raid drop so fast in all my years of playing this game...it felt like he pulled the entire plane of fear minus the golems directly to us.

As a chanter, yes you can easily pull aggro from tanks but you should be careful enough never to...even if you have enough hit points to survive. If your used to tashing/slowing at 99% mob health and you always get aggro, your doing your job wrong as an enchanter. You should find the happy median between you being able to slow quickly and the tank being able to keep aggro, usually around the 96% mark, varying depending on if your tank is a warr, pally, or SK.

Just my opinion as a part qvic/txevu/tacvi geared chanter.

I play a 65 pali and a 65 chanter, and i can say pulling agro is not always the fault of the person not tanking. I spent several painful groups in BoT with my chanter tanking for a 63 warrior who could not keep agro period, even waiting til the mob was at 55% for slow would still get agro. the speed of the group turned into how long my mana would last with me casting rune on my self. on the other hand, i often group with an sk with who i can cast tash the moment he engages the mob. A tanks ability to maintain agro depends on both the skill of the tank and the actions of the rest of the group, most of it depends onthe skill of hte tank and his/her equipment. In my experiance as a chanter, warrior are just the most inefectual class at maintaining agro regardless of skill. Sk are the best, followed closely by pali for getting and maintaining agro. give a war a pair of fast weapons with frequent procs and a couple of hate augs and they can hold agro about as easily as a pali. If you lose agro frequently you might want to have a look at what you using and doing, remember, even a war has better tools than taunt for agro, use them and stop blaming the casters.

Are they ever going to fix that Bazu warping bug in WoS?

Anyone that has been playing this game for more than two weeks "Prozac" free of course, has learned the general idea of managing agro.
If you find yourself taking agro from the main tank, adjust.

If your the main tank and you find yourself losing agro, switch weapons, equip shield and bash, kick, burn AA's, do what it takes.

If you the "uber"<stupid word> chanter that has the hp to tank, why bother getting a tank, just get a couple necros and a cleric, have the necros mana feed ya, while you tank.(sarcasm off). Or better yet! Get a clue and learn how to play that EBAY toon you just bought.

I three box most xp I get. My warrior seldom loses agro to my chanter or cleric. NO "I do not just take on barely db mobs!" Mobs I take on are often barely db to my cleric and chanter, on the side of some being white con to them. <cleric and chanter lvl 63>. Rule of Thumb Tash at 94%, slow when mob hits 89%, chanter keeps self rune up just in case. Adjust accordingly.

I have found a way of teaching people to manage agro. Join one of my groups, while I am boxing, I let ya know, cleric heals MA, steal agro and die once or twice, and most stop attempting to take agro.

Its obvious when the SK/Paladin/Ranger are sitting there chain mashing their taunt button. My warrior may hit taunt two at most three times in a fight after utilizing his disc taunt. Take agro after that and you survive as long as you can keep yourself healthy.

Sound harsh? How harsh is burning your hand on a stove? Bet ya only do that once.

Everyone's job is agro management, not just the MA/SA/TA go on an upper level raid and steal agro. Any self respecting guild will warn ya once, maybe twice. If they are real softies, they will have a wizard TL you out. Hopefully not, they should just boot ya and then let you find your own way home. Gate naked and summon corpse to guild lobby. Ya have to learn the basics sooner or later.

most annoying thing i can think of is bugs. Especially the wos bazu bug. When ever it reaches 15% if it aint on a rock it goes to spawn point it doesnt come back but 3 or so more mobs do. This especially sucks on named, since u can never kill them.

Option 6: the mob kept gating until we all died...

I love it when a mob gates and brings back 7 others. Good times...