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this is utterly ********* believableFollow

#1 Aug 02 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
Someone on FV is duping gear.

Yeah, I know that sounds improbable, but besides a ******* of anecdotal evidence towards it, we just got gm confirmation.

the best part? He gets to keep a ton of mpg raid and higher loot, because outsourced gms are too incompetant to 'verify' it's duped.
#2 Aug 02 2005 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
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makes me sick. both duping and incompetence!

have a link?
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#3 Aug 02 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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makes me sick. both duping and incompetence!

have a link?

can't, it's just from listening to GM-Admin Arryu in a chat channel.
#4 Aug 02 2005 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default


Edited, Wed Aug 3 00:31:01 2005 by Groogle
#5 Aug 02 2005 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Gets to keep"? If they verified he's duping, why isn't he banned?
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#6 Aug 02 2005 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
well as in all things in life you get what you pay for. How mych do east indian gm's cost SOE these days?

atleast most of that gear is prolly no drop. So unless he can switch between toos (which he prolly can) it wont do him much good.
#7 Aug 02 2005 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
its fv, its not nodrop, from talking to plat dealers he's already gotten 20k+ usd off it

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Gets to keep"? If they verified he's duping, why isn't he banned?

because sony is retarded? I dunno. gm admits not being able to find the origin of three thunderclaps among other stuff, but apparently doesn't have -logs- to prove it's duped. how the hell can a log prove its duped =/
#8 Aug 02 2005 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
and now a gm is saying jerrkins getting banned, lol, sony is so inconsistant
#9 Aug 02 2005 at 4:22 PM Rating: Decent
Does FV not have No Drop gear???
#10 Aug 02 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
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Does FV not have No Drop gear???

that would be correct
#11 Aug 02 2005 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Does FV not have No Drop gear???


Almost. A lot of gear that is NO TRADE on other servers isnt tagged that way on FV. There are exceptions.

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for people on FV who feel like yelling at someone, it's youngg/jerrkins


Never heard of 'em. Then again, the Market channel makes me feel like I need a shower.

#12 Aug 02 2005 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a hard time getting my main toon mediocre equipment and this guy is dupping mpg raid loot??? ..... he should burn in hell.
#13 Aug 02 2005 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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Sir Groogle wrote:
its fv, its not nodrop, from talking to plat dealers he's already gotten 20k+ usd off it


hmmmmmm 20k usd and all he gets is banned?

sounds like a win win situation for him.....

not that im advocating the duping of items, not at all.... i think he should burn in hell....

now more then ever im glad that i dont play there anymore. if sony ever gets around to letting toons xfer off that server then ill be the first in line.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 17:45:30 2005 by Aadynn Litefoot
#14 Aug 02 2005 at 4:40 PM Rating: Default
he isnt gonna get banned =p
#16 Aug 02 2005 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
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i dont believe for a second that he made 20k+ usd from this. first off you would have absolutely no way of even guessing that one and neither would the GMs so where is your info from?1

thats the wonderous thing about duping, you make something out of nothing. he claims he made 300k, it's probably somewhere in between. he can create 100k plat ($20-25 selling to a reseller) in literally 20 seconds. my info comes from knowing how much he's duped. tacvi/anguish items can clear $700 a pop on FV, and hes not just doing this on fv.

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second i know for a fact every single thing that you do is kept on a log server side. (i had a gm tell me exactly what i did for an entire day once upon a time) and last time i checked even when duping was a problem it had to be NON lore. how do you dupe something when you can only have 1 anyway??

bag + bag + nocheck offset = multiple lore items. I got confirmation ingame from GM-Admin Arryu that his items were "not legitimately obtained.

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this guy may be trash but its people like you that exaggerate what he did for him that make more people do this crap.

I'm not exaggerating ****, he easily made more than that.

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and secondly since when do GMs share this information??? if you ask me this is nothing more than rumor garbage and until i see a link im callin bullsh*t on this entire thread.

a rising darkness officer specifically petitioned, asking for a GM to come in to the raid channel, and tell people that he was not involved. GM-Admin Arryu said something like "Egolas has done nothing wrong, the only person our investigation has confirmed of wrongdoing is Jerrkins"

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you can get screenshots from someone messing with a gm in the stuck char room but absolutely no shots of all of this information your getting from from this GM??? come on

what good is a screenshot of some indian gm saying something in broken english?

#17 Aug 02 2005 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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U die and have a dupe corpse trick ive heard, and on FV that would be worth loads if done off a top end toon. Not sure how u dupe a corpse but ive heard it happens.
#19 Aug 02 2005 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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how do you dupe something when you can only have 1 anyway??


I would guess that it has something to do with trading with alts if the gear is lore and somehow the first toon gets to keep one too.

These are the worst kind of exploits and should this needs to stopped before the game becomes like diablo.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 18:27:38 2005 by TheGreatSieg
#20 Aug 02 2005 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
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even if you have the lore item on your corpse you cannot get another it still gives the you already posess this blah blah message.

umm, thats what the shared bank and other characters are for, or for people hacking, bags in bags.
#22 Aug 02 2005 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Well with dupe corpse having all items on them, you'd loot one then offload them to an alt and then loot second corpse. So double your gear for nowt.

On a side note im pissed off at seeing high end guilds bump starting from their wipes using the MGB trick with cleric divine rez or watching clerics soloing RS named with 30 plus hammers.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 18:27:06 2005 by Rossd
#23 Aug 02 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Default
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alot because wihout it this is nothing more than a rumor.

no, because:
a) screenshots are simple to edit
b) I am czaemon, I do not post rumors.

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but as far as how you heard how much hes made that makes sense i have seen these plat sellers brag before its like they love to shove it in your face.

I've made around 25k selling plat in the last ~10 months. Yeah, yeah, I am evil, I sell plat. you can look on any reseller's site to see plat prices. I've paid up to 3000 USD for a high end firiona vie character, which I then sold for around 5.5. before the recent slump, it was -easy- to clear $700, I'm kind of confused about why you think platsellers cant make that much money. I've made 25k in ten months, just reselling, imagine how much you could do when you can create items.

I'm too lazy to take a screenshot, you might find someone else with one, but here's another little bit. Two months ago, every reseller was buying platinum, as much as they could get. I thought something was up before today, talked to some of them, they are having never before seen people coming to them with massive amounts of plat. Oh, and anyone who pays attention to PA - remember SirValient popping up for a few weeks with massive plat on every server, cheap? one and the same.

for people too lazy to dig up links of plat resellers to verify that, here are some, some are probably filtered out:
http://www.belrion.com/en/sellsvr.asp?cid=1&gid=1&sid=44
http://www.gamingnook.com/eq/customer/sell_platinum.php#
http://hordevault.com/everquest.html
https://www.cannotlinkto/ssl/sellcurrency.aspx
#24 Aug 02 2005 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Pfunk: Simply put, no offense, but I am more likely to listen to and believe what Groogle / Czaemon says pretty much over ANYONE on this board, including a lot of the other Sages.

I am not new to this game, I am not new to this idea. I have no characters on FV, but I have to say, that seriously bites the big one, and I feel real bad for whoever is going to, ultimately, wind up taking it in the end on this one.

I hope whoever is doing it rots in Anguish.

For the record, the amounts of money we are talking about for the gear up for sale sound about right to me. I'd have to jump on (insert online plat seller here) to check current prices, but I don't think he's BSing anyone.
#26 Aug 02 2005 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I can tell you that there are a few vendors that always seem to have one of just about every *drool* high end item. I always wondered how they restocked.
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