Is it too much to ask a 55 Warrior to have 7.5k hp?Follow

What is with all the hating? Do any of you haters have any college composition/rhetoric as part of your academic resume? For, if you did, you would understand the need for giving proper credit to someone so as not to plagiarize.



Folk derived the equation in 1974; thus, the notation of Folk(1974) is considered to be proper etiquette. It clearly indicates who's work is being mentioned, and the time frame the work took place.

I'm starting to think I should use more 2 and 3 letter words, drawn in crayon and on construction paper, so that some of you would get a clue.

Ack! I need an academic resume to post here?

because being intellectual without actually saying anything is annoying.
Let's see some numbers!

My 52 warrior has 4.3 unbuffed. With Fo7/Virtue/BSS he is nearly 7k. While I understand that he is quite abit above normal (and has zero problems soloing) I do think you are quite a bit below the average 55 tank who invests some time in their gear.

The problem I see often, is people trying to tank about their level. Level 65s with no aa trying to tank in WoS or even MPG. That tank belongs in BoT or PoV. SOE has formulated such quick flying through the lower levels that one doesn't appreciate the need to work for your ability to move up.

Tanks have always had it the worse since they rely on gear and aa much more than other classes.



111ac is HUGE! Depending on the level of mob (and their attack) hitting on you that could mean 400-700 hp worth of damage avoided during the time you require a complete heal.

And as to the ultimate twink, this is my actual 52 warrior.

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=917788

Most of it it droppable and from the bazaar. I've done 33 ldons netting me the augs. With only the following exception:

Fear neck: 100hp, droppable would prolly only reach 50hp for the average bazaar mid 50s war.
ToV Mask: 90hp, droppable again 45hp at least
Strength of the Elements: 100hp, shoulders in bazaarr 55hp, but damn those fabled ones were 95hp and killable by any 50s group.
Vindi BP: same hp as ornate or magnetic
Obsidian Battle Sword: 116hp, this is an ep trash sword that's not available except by twinking but a swiftblade of zek is 100hp and it definitely is in the bazaar.
War Bow of Rallos Zek 100hp, bazaar ldon bow 55hp.

50+45+5+25+45=170

4297hp - around 200 4097 and for good measure we'll get rid of another 100. That's 4k unbuffed. For a 55 bazaar warrior 4k is not unreasonable to expect. Ultimately if you bought each of these items it would cost a great deal, but if you are in even a fledgling pop guiild you should be able to acquire many of them free.

Level 55 buffs:
Virtue: 1405
BSS: 330
FoS: 544
Total: 2289

4k+2289 = 6289 hp it's not 7.5k but it's reasonable.

Now, for the really twinked 52 warrior, for fun, I came up with this:
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=917788&alt=220131

52 warrior 5030 + 2289 for buffs = 7319 hitpoints.

Most of the good stuff from ssra/seru is required 55. I don't know why some is and some isn't. /shrug But if I took a group or two of my friends around I could collect this for my warrior in a few weeks provided that no one beats me to Seru and Cursed. I didn't use anything from VT or Veeshan's Peak or NToV. Just luclin and velious that I knew *I* could do with 1-2 groups. Plus full pop charm (easy to get these days for alts) and camping for those 20hp augs would prolly take a few days as well. I actually have some ldons done and realistically could do the complete LDoN charm about as fast on the 52 as on a level 70 character. That would be another 100hp. By the time all those ldons were done, a few ldon hp augs could prolly be gathered as well.

If I made one for a level 55 warrior it would go through the roof because a lot more options then.

The random 55 warrior you can find on your server right now. I'm not going to argue the semantics of "average" with you.

But to answer your first question, no I don't expect a 55 warrior to have 7.5k hp buffed. But 6k would be reasonable.

200k? Come on now. All that OoW droppable stuff is a few k. Magnetic isn't that expensive either. You could get a full set of magnetic for 25k if you gathered the materials yourself instead of buying the completed armor. It's not like level 55 people can't find other level 55 people who are level 200 smiths. I was 200 when I was level 40 on a brand new server where I farmed bronze swords and shields off of paineel guards! Hell, if you went that route you could farm paineel guards and be able to afford a new peice of either magnetic or oow droppables every single day.

And the seru stuff is only listed on the purposeful "twink". There are two different set ups there the first one doesn't have seru gear. And yes I can waltz in and take it with 4 people and do almost every week. =P

oow tier one has a required level of 60 and there is no way you could get the drops at that level anyway. youd have to tank nameds in nc and wos.

Sigh why did i know i was going to have to type it all out for you?

Steel ring of earthen resistance: 2x 10k
Swiftblade of Zek: 30k
Blade of Carnage: 80k
Mag Brestplate 6k
Mag legs : 6k
Armguards : 5k
Helm of Zek: 50k
Bow(i assume you ment the 100hp bows not the 55 right?): 10k
Iron Gaunts: 7k
Bloodmetal earring :- 5k
Fiercely hooked claw:- 30k

Thats almost 250k so far with no haste item replacement. do you still want to argue about cost or have you had enough?


Oh and we can take off 100 hit points from your Wooden Figurine unless you would have us believe your lvl 52 is time flagged.


Edited, Mon Aug 29 14:59:43 2005 by tarv

We need more cow bell, not rational replies to the original topic. I had to rate you down (clearly, you deserve higher than an excellent rating, but it was all I could give).

No kidding, eh?

Well I made up a 55 warrior with nothing on him that cost more than 10k (and most of it 500pp-3k) in the bazaar on Stromm right now.

This hypothetical average warrior is lame so he's never done a single LDoN and doesn't have charm upgrades nor a single aug of any kind. He also can't manage to even beat the first PoJ trial. He also could be ANY race since I used nothing that was race specific. He has soulscream belt for haste although like any other 50s class should have camped at least the fabled LGuK sash and the shoulders, if not a mithril bp and elder ring to boot.

Average Level 55 Warrior

Oh wham bam, he has over 4k unbuffed with only 223 stamina.

wow, those 100, or close to 100 hp "dropable crap" armor pieces are less than 10k each?!?

even if that the case, dropping what, 150 ~ 200k hp to get those gear you used in the magelo is hardly ordinary for an "average" player without seeking help on ebay.

Edited, Mon Aug 29 18:38:45 2005 by Assailant