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#1 Sep 19 2005 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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1.4 aa in 10 min.

goto WC, once in WC goto the NE corrner of the zone (dark elf camp on map). you need at least 3 people in your group, any lvl as far as i know, all must have DoD.

hail kati (SP), then /say "happy" you will be givin a monster task. selcet a monster then say, /say "trinket".

you will be changed into a grifin and find yourself in EC. goto actions window and creat a tracking hotkey. press track, highlight a blank spot and press track. you now need to collect 10 "invis" eggs. you run over them and they disapear. if you see one while running to the one your tracking, thats fine, get it. once your party, or just you, has all 10 eggs. track the guard. kill him, can do this alone or with more, he is yellow, but would take 30 min to kill you (very over conned, he should be green). after guard is dead, track "merchant" kill her as well. once she is dead, track katie(sp) run to her and say /leave. DING

you all just got 1.4 aa. or 20% normal exp for a lvl 64. sick eh? and you can re do it every 30 min.

what my guild has been doing, is those that need to sleep, just stay logged on and in group, one "awake" person can do the task every 30 min.

i got 23 aa yesterday, 12 when i was awake, and 11 when i was sleeping. i am curently getting AA while i am at work.

is this working as intended? i don't know. but we are getting the most out of it!

so, re cap:

1. 3 peeps in group (or more!)
2. all must have DoD
3. collect 10 invis eggs
4. kill guard
5. kill merchant
6. find npc kati and say leave.

that all takes about 10-15 min solo, 5 min if 6 people hunting eggs.

result: 1.4 aa

don't know if this a bug, or what
#2 Sep 19 2005 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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#3 Sep 19 2005 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
I think this post would be better off being removed :( (people exploiting this could be messy)

Edited, Mon Sep 19 18:06:06 2005 by Limpkinw
#4 Sep 19 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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thats the thing, is this how they intend it? it has had at least 3 patches, and they never "fix" it....

i guess it is almost the same pace you can get AA in RSS with a good group...now if there was no "lock-out" then it would be extream.

i never tried it for 2-3 days of knowing about it. they patched, then patched the patch, then patched that one, and still this is working.

so as intended?

i am not one for doing exploits.
#5 Sep 19 2005 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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so as intended?

i am not one for doing exploits.
It's not exactly an exploit. Some DoN missions were easier and faster than others ie: creator. This caused people to farm them for crystals (the reward). This is more of a reward/risk problem. If SOE thinks it's okay to keep the reward for what risk you take than it's not a problem. If SOE decides it's unbalanced they'll fix it accordingly (when they have time of course). An exploit is more of getting the reward without the risk using a bug or feature as it's not intended ie: duping etc.

Maybe they'll change it or maybe they won't. If this mission was bugged in a way that let you complete it faster or without risk than it's an exploit. You should be fine continuing this.
#6 Sep 19 2005 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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it might be "as intended"

but it can be exploited.

by being afk, and just in group, you are getting AA while one person is doing the task.

i think they will "fix it" so everyone in task needs to zone into the task. that would be a "fix" and maybe increase the lock-out to a week or so. So once a week you can go do this for one fast aa.

WC on drinal is a ton of afk peeps.
#7 Sep 19 2005 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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This is an awesome mission even if you have to actually go do it. Never got AA's while asleep darn it.Smiley: cry
#8 Sep 19 2005 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
... 1 week lockout? walk away from your pipe.


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by being afk, and just in group, you are getting AA while one person is doing the task.

not a big deal. don missions can be done for afk crystals, too.
#9 Sep 19 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
one month lockout?
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The lock out is a bug. I spoke with a GM tonight and its going to be fixed in the next patch. I am locked out 3% from 69 =(
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#11 Sep 19 2005 at 10:39 PM Rating: Default
Baron von rosleck wrote:
The lock out is a bug. I spoke with a GM tonight and its going to be fixed in the next patch. I am locked out 3% from 69 =(


May have to go solo that 3pct. "Buy the expansion if you want to see a group" business model 4tehwin!
#12 Sep 19 2005 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I think its just another one of SOE's "Sell the expansion and nerf" tricks. Seems like when a expansion comes out they have something that gives massive loot or hp. Then people spread word of it and people buy the expansion. Then a week later or so they nerf it and thats thats. Remember fishing in Gates?
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#13 Sep 19 2005 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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some of you are confusing this with the lock-out bug. that wasn't this. the lock-out bug is when someone ld when zono9ng out of a DoN task upon completion, they get locked out for 53 days. that isn't what this thread was about,

this was about the 1.4 aa in 10 min, every 30 min.

point is mute, they just despawned her.
#14 Sep 19 2005 at 11:55 PM Rating: Good
Didn't last a week.

As of midnite (CDT) Monday 9/19 the WC mission is nerfed.


Edited, Tue Sep 20 01:01:13 2005 by Aulweyen
#15 Sep 19 2005 at 11:58 PM Rating: Default
Good!!! sad that it lasted a week to be honest
#16 Sep 20 2005 at 5:06 AM Rating: Default
Nerfed. NPC yanked as of midnight-ish.

People need to chill. This was a perfectly good spot that worked completely as intended. There was no exploit.

The xp was good, sure. Possibly a little too good. I admit that, but the alarmists and haters that /bug and /petition things like this need to be playing Mario Kart 64.

Think of it as a bonus for buying the new expansion from SoE, and now that they filled thier sales quota, the goodies go bye-bye. It has happend before.

Oh well.

#17 Sep 20 2005 at 5:18 AM Rating: Default
Yesterday it was 140 people in wc rofl.

imo /rollback! /nerf! :P

There is a 45 min lockout tho so its not really uber uber.. Get more xp in PoFire for a longer peridod then doing this over and over.
#18 Sep 20 2005 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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Don't be silly and attempt to justify it folks, 1.4 AA in 5 minutes is broken. You can't count the lockout timer as you could do anything during that time, including run to PoFire for more XP.

This has happened every expansion since LoY, it's a tried and true tactic, drop in some obscure trick, let it spread by word of mouth for a few days so everyone rushes to get the expansion then nerf the **** out of it.
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#19 Sep 20 2005 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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Good Point Lord Xythex,

I got so excited yesterday reading the experience point bonus that I was going to go out and get the expansion. However, I ran out of time and didn't stop by the local EBgames or attempt to download the expansion from SOE.

My main toon is only 51. This is after 3 years of gaming. I only have a few hours a week to play. I probably have only used expansion material up to LDON.

Have they nerfed the bonus yet or are there any plans in the near future?
#20 Sep 20 2005 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Alot of you have no concept of time management and just plain can't do math.

It cannot be done in 5 mins, thats an exaggeration. Starting from "trinket" and not counting prep time, and then going till you zone back to WC it is 15 mins at even the fastest pace. Then you have (or had) a 30 min lockout from when everyone quits the task, (and there is always one who forgets) and that means at best every 45 mins you get 1.5 AA exp.

Now you could run to POF in that 30 min lockout time but counting travel time there and back you would get about 15 mins in PoF if you are very lucky, and only if everyone in group have fast zoning comp. That is not counting time to find open camp and pull mob and fight it. Pretty much hard to do and not really fun either.

This is a nice little task, and is nice one to do in between other tasks, ie have group do griffon then do orc then do griffin, then do pirate then do griffon, then do were wolf then do griffon. You would get like 8 AA in like 2 hours. Which is about the same as a MPG group and not as good as a a few other higher zones.

Plus you can not use exp potion or exp AA for these tasks which you could in say MPG.



The benefit is that you do not need to have 6 exact class roles filled, any 6 toons 35-70 can group together and get a benefit from it. Makes LFG much easier.




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You would get like 8 AA in like 2 hours. Which is about the same as a MPG group and not as good as a a few other higher zones.


Would you say that a soloing naked lvl 60 toon could get 8 AA in MPG or anywhere else for that matter in 2 hours?
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#22 Sep 20 2005 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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All they need to do is make it so that you have to zone into the mission to get the exp for it. It's not fair that people are getting exp while sitting AFK all night.
#23 Sep 20 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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I do not know first hand about this experience while afk thing. I am a little skeptical. If it is true, it would be true for all tasks, that you could get exp without entering the mission. That does not seem right and that should be stopped, but this does not mean that there is anything wrong with having one easier mission mixed in with the moderate ones.
#24 Sep 20 2005 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
I was going to try this tonight with a couple rl buddy's who I never get to play with cause they are too low. Can anyone confirm that is has been nerf'd?
#25 Sep 20 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
I did 3 missions last night, two orc missions and one naggy and I got 4aa's. The two orc missions went quick, like mabey 20 mins and the naggy one took a little longer.

#26 Sep 20 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Default
First of all, the AFK issue is moot because it is done commonly in GoD with mob mezzers. I have been in groups where I don't do anything but just sit there. Secondly the timers are reset once completion of mission is listed in tasker. You don't have to leave the mission for it to reset. I know this first hand as well. The term "Exploitation" here is nothing more than personal preference on how you perceive your game playing. The actual "exploitation" of these missions by receiving insane AA with little or no effort, in my opinion, was a unknown gift by the Devs that are slowly starting to correct it. The question I have is why complain about it? You don't like it, don't do it. The mission in itself is interesting and a new twist to EQ. I gained two lvls from 68 to 70 in two nites doing maybe 15 missions. Do I feel like I "Exploited" these missions? No I don't. I felt that it was a good chance for me to be able to have a great time, getting great xps and lvling my character since I am unable to have the chance due to RL to be able to grind for hours on end to obtain a few AAs and maybe a lvl. I am just glad that I was able to play the new twist that SoE developed and get a little bit more out of it than just the sound of crickets like you hear in LDON camps.
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