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.. good point. This nis something that often goes overlooked and I am curios to see how it plays out. The days of the 70 man raid with a proper heal chain are gone. I think my current guild does ikkinz with like 30 people (not sure on group count).

An increase to 75 or 80 I think would just cause more of us casual players to have a harder time finding groups and then it would raise the price on things in the bazaar to even more extremes.

I think a new class or race would be neat and would make some of the 'high end' players com back and learn something new.

Just my opinion of course feel free to tear me up.

I Voted NO!!!!

To me as a High end gamer (Time/tacvi/Anguish/DoN/Demiplane) flagged a level 70-(75 or 80) would do nothing but hurt everything.

I agree with what people are saying, Fix the current broken content (i.e. Quests, Events, Raid Events, NPC's, and Zones)

For example, Add in Plane of War (Yes an actual zone, but not in game... why?????)

I remember when Kael was the place to be to exp... Now Personally I only go there to farm faction or kill King Tormax or AoW, other than that, 99.9% of the time, the zone is empty.

As far as the quests go.... Half the time the quests aren’t worth doing now for a few reasons. Crappy reward vs. effort, little to no experience for the quest, quest can require 1 or 2+ groups for it.

I went to WoW briefly and I did like the quest system, you got a decent item and nice exp. If they could put that back into everquest for every level, it would be a lot better.

Now I'm not talking a 300hp/mana item. For example, the epic quest, Great item, Great Stats, no exp for getting it. Over the course of the Epic quest, you should (in my view) at least get say 1-3 yellow AA exp (maybe more).

I’m sure most people would give up a few stats on an item for better experience. Say 150hp/mana item (from quest) dropped to 100hp/mana or lower if they got a decent about of experience from doing the quest.

Another point, LDoN's they where farmed and farmed and where great fun. Good or bad group you still had fun. un-nerf them!!!

I do agree however level 65+ should be hard, but not as hard as they are. The hard LDoN's at level 70 are geared towards more of the high end players (900+ hitting, often double, tripper or quad hitting). Sure you can get a casual nicely geared tank (8-10khp) but what about the others? Cleric? They need the mana to heal them.

Generally, I personal think EverQuest is over balanced as has lost is "mythical" style of life. MM's although are great (personally I don’t like them) aren’t really the "EverQuest" Kind of thing. It should be about Wizards, Dragons, Halflings, and alike.

Also, the Lore factor... is being more and more disjointed, the later expansions the lore/history (in game) I have found is really lacking.

So basically, I’m against a level increase, Create some new zones for the low-mid range player, revamp zones, revamp quests, fix old quests, put in zones which where ment to be there, encourage people to start at level 1 and not at level 70 (via plvling or buying chars).

Just be 2cp worth (after all of that, prob 2pp worth! :P~)

NO! put more effort in to making low to middle levels exciting to play. You just need to take a look at the lost dungeons areas and they are all vacant. Bring back excitement to the game for everyone, and that means the new players and the old ones who need to start over with a new toon. Go back to where the game was when it first came out.

I wonder how Sony addresses these types of questions? I wonder WHO Sony would address these types of questions to? I bet both are done poorly.

This game has decended into an all-out race through the next expansion. Those who have lvl 70 toons with 500+ AAs and end-game (or near end-game) raid level gear are ahead of curve. I don't see how keeping these people happy is good for the game.

Sony needs to get a break-down of the quantity AND level of each toon playing on their servers to see what the next expansion should address. I highly doubt the masses are lvl 70 players that are fully loaded with gear. Has sony even sent out a poll asking PLAYERS what they want to see? WOW there is an idea.

I think we are lookng at lvl 50-65 with < 40AA as a 'normal' player. Zones, quests, missions and drops for these people might be the best area to focus on.

Adding 5 or 10 new levels on the next release would accomplish little. Peeps would race though those levels in a matter of hours. It is like bragging rights to see who hits level 75 first.

I'm a casual player, so I'll probably never get to level 70. I hope Sony adds some stuff that keep people playing.

Just my opinion. If you don't like, then Alt-Tab back into EQ and keep playing...I've got to get back to work, because I do that for a living.

The Plane of War is a unfinished zone. The file for it is in the Everquest directory, however if you walk around in it you can see its not finished. There is alot of invisable walls where some sort of graphic should be. It is basically a greyish square sand looking area. There is a fort in one of the squares and it has stairs that lead to nowhere, etc. I think they outta finish it up and make it a giant PVP zone (kinda like the arena).

If you mess around with the emulator you can see Plane of War, but its not really much to see. I should have taken screenshots of it when I was messing with it, but I didn't. It is a pain to use the emulator. You eq has to be patched to a certain patch for it to work. I tried finding some screenshots of it, but no luck.

IMO:

--yes, new class/race
--yes, more char slots
--yes, more things for lower levels to do

I have chars ranging from 25-70, someone in almost every group range, and I love to play them all at one time or another. We need to somehow start balancing things out so EVERYONE enjoys to play, and not just the highend gamers. Yes, I know they're the ones that play the most and probably spend the most on this addictive game, but there are others of us who can't play ALL the time, but still want to enjoy their time on EQ instead of sitting in PoK shouting LFG and falling asleep on their keyboard because they're so darned bored.

--Of course there needs to be something in the new expansion for the highends to do, just don't make it all about them.

Saffaron wrote:I have a novel concept for the next expansion. Fix all the messed up stuff and revamp most of the old world zones. Give people a reason to start a new low level character. Maybe update character models. I would much rather see this then more 70th to 80th level zones and would gladly pay in the form of an expansion to fund it.
Saffaron

I am with you Saff

Edited, Mon Dec 5 11:24:15 2005 by floowid

You left out a choice, "It depends" would be my option. It depends on what the new zones would be like. When GoD came out, a lvl 65 toon had to be stupid uber geared just to think about doing their KT flag, only the strongest guilds were doing thinks like Ikk4 and Uqua trials. They increased the strength of the mobs bigtime, yet waited till OoW came out to up the cap (can you imagine fighting OOM with a raid of lvl 65 people, c'mon, they HAD to raise the cap).

So I guess what I am saying is that if they raise the monster lvls in the new zones to where the main boss is a 100 lvl destroyer, and the mobs attack power goes up stupid high (a light blue in Txevu hits for 600 while a light blue in an old world zone hits for 150) then YES they should. But if it is more zones filled with mobs that are roughly the same as now in attack power, then NO, leave it alone.

But I would bet money the raise it. Get ready for a big expansion on the next one. They will raise the lvl cap to introduce new spells, new gear with new caps, a new bigtime end boss mob, and maybe even 3.0's. DoD was a lead-up to something bigger.

Peace, I'm out.

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How about this You fix all the stuff that doesnt work instead of adding all this new stuff that doesnt work and having everything not work. Fix stuff in the next expansion and for the love of god add something for someone below level 70!!!

I vote no, as well. IMHO, however, EQ is kinda beyond the point of no return. It seems that have let the game get away from them, and I believe that EQII was their rather meek response to that fact. Now, years after introduction, they have a rather unwieldy game (from a macro standpoint) that any fix threatens one possibly large group of consumers or another.

The game, again my opinion, was at its best when LDoN came out. Zones (and servers) were filled, in some cases, to overflowing. Finding an LDoN was quick and fairly painless. In fact, except for lag, nothing since that time has really improved. And again, I am speaking of overall game play. Sure, certain aspects of the game may have improved, but most of them are purely cosmetic. Perhaps, as unfortunate as this may be, this is just a part and parcel of the life span of an MMORPG.

The only way that EQ can evolve, as I see it, is to do something radical that would address both the beginner and the 5+ year player. That might include removing or combining some content from some zones. For instance, and I use this only as an example, placing the Crushbone Throneroom in Gfay near the Butcherblock zone-in. The slavers might be eliminated completely in that example. Perhaps even solo instance zones for those who, like me, play at odd hours.

Maybe even separating the servers into different level categories might help. High levels on one set of servers, mid-ranges in another and lowbies on still others. The content could be ratcheted up or down, as needed. That way grouping would be easier and faster. They could still leave some servers open to all levels, and even those servers would be better populated. Imagine pvp where everyone is fairly equal in level.

Finally, other than just tossing the whole thing into the cyber toidy, the only thing the developers need to do is look into why EQ became so popular and why it has become so lame. Most of that has to do with the fact that Norrath has just gotten too big. Too many zones with too much content created too often for too few of the users has left much of us to start waiting for the next big competitior to launch their next game.

My advice to SOE is to figure these problems and solve out before the someone else does.