Who here misses newbies?!Follow

A game that has been out for almost 7 years. Welcome to a mature MMO. It will happen with a game that has the lasting power of EQ.

Tuskirr,

The golden days of Ever Quest will never come to pass again. Yeah it sux, I miss running around in my full set of banded armor thinking I was hot stuff, zoning into LoIo with 90+ players hoping to get in on a Fort group. I could go on but this text has seen the light of the board before, so I’ll save you the eye strain.

So what keeps me play? The wait for a new MMORP to hit data stream. One with the depth of Ever Quest, and community I have come to know.

For me Ever Quest has lost it’s glimmer. I can’t gripe to much if I’m still playing. On the other hand my play stile has changed do to the shift of the game. For me fun with friends will always be greater than exp or epic 2.0s. But I don’t play to impress anyone, rather I play to have fun.


Not to gripe with out adding a suggestion.

Many years ago I played a MMORPG called “The 4th Coming”. I think the game is still around. Once one got to the end game one could you could keep grinding or do a quest to become a Seraph (rebirth) Evil or Good aliened. And you would start from level one again, but with added powers. This was and still is a great game, and it kept the younger zones populated.

The graphics of the game don’t compare to Ever Quest, but good graphics does not always equal a good game.

Here is a link to an equivalent of AllaKazam’s site for the game http://www.t4cbible.com/

Just my

Side note:
You'll never see a tweenk in this game

Yep EQ days have long since past welcome to the new generic Eq where newbies today are considered "elitist" of old. Where you could tell anothe rlevel 70 that your at the 4p in Loio and they'd be what where's that zone never been there.

It's a new EQ that butchers our good old storyline. But has the reward of having a much more mature community.

I very much miss being a newbie....But, as others have said, "what to do?"

But havin said that, every so often, I go to a new zone or a new camp, and feel like, and some would say, behave like an utter noob.

luckily for me, at times I manage to spot a true noobie, and various of those have joined my guild in the last couple of months. And they are refreshing

My main is a level 61 ranger and I still consider myself sort of a noob. It took me 3 years to hit 61 and, after 3 years of playing, I still do not know everyting. I am amazed when someone takes me to a zone I have never been to and explains to me what needs to be down. Trust me when I say this, after 3 years of being a ranger, I do know how to play my class but, there is always more to learn.

Oh yeah because people with slower connections are noobies. Same thing in Fire getting over the wall. I've seen people who've been there plenty of times not make it across because of lag. The distance in the Hive is longer. The real noobs are the ones who can't make it to the bridges by going through the towers.

WTB "/ignore non-guild" command.

I have just about written off all contact with anyone not wearing my tag. It rarely ends well.

Which is a pity, I loved bringing a random person into our groups, met a few cool people that way (and taught a bunch)(and learned.. well.. at least new views).

But.. call me old and ******** but.. no more.

i actually am a newbie and was wondering, what is LoIo?

Plus, you complain you they arent any newbies to show off to, try being a newbie and trying to find a group. Yeah, I know i could just go to PC, but whats the fun in that. I wish i was around in the days when you could go to any of the great zones for teens and find a group. Great Zones such as befallen, South Ro,CB, Upper Guk, etc. are empty.

EDIT:never mind found out it was Lake of Ill Omen-i have been there

Edited, Thu Jan 26 16:58:23 2006 by Deodhlais

Like I said in my earlier post, I am newbie. Due to the lack of newbies to group with, i mostly solo. On the double exp weekend however, I found one true newbie like me and an alt to group with in EC. We camped the orc cams for like 2 hours and i dinged a whole lvl and got great loot, but most importantly it was the most fun i had ever had in EQ!!!



i really wish that had been there for that LOL :)

It is true that everquest is a 7 year old game, but that in itself is not necessarily bad. The graphics continue to be update and are very competitive with modern games, they are nothing like ultima online for instance. Post luclin zones look very different than old world zones and are on a different level in terms of graphics and animation. Graphics should further be updated in the old zones, and SOE is doing the right thing with freeport. Newbies start in these zones and they will often base their judgment of the game's graphics based on their starting city (aside from Vah Sir). However, changes shouldn't be so drastic that the city is unrecognizable to veteran gamers. So basically what I suggest to get new players is:
1. Refresh the graphics for starting locations so newbies dont get the wrong impression of the overall game.
2. $19 10-expansion deal is great, but I think the price should be more like $10 to attract more players. Hell, maybe SOE could give away games at electronic boutique locations! Most of the money they make is from monthly subscriptions anways.
3. Market everquest 1 as a completely different game from everquest 2, stressing that eq2 is not "superior" to eq1. Marketing budget in general should also be increased. Spending more money and effort on advertising and improving current content and less on making 45647 more expansions will have a greater payoff.
4. Finally, profound changes need to be made to the game itself. Most of these changes have been discussed on this forum numerous times so I wont go into detail, but im mainly talking about: a) ability to solo at all levels and get decent exp and loot doing it b) adopt WOW-like quest system (have to stuck up and learn from other successful MMORPG) c) more content for casual gamers overall, (like, LDON and MM, they were great ideas and can be improved upon).
C'mon SOE you can do it!


Edited, Thu Jan 26 22:34:05 2006 by tuskirr

Edited, Thu Jan 26 22:36:07 2006 by tuskirr

Edited, Thu Jan 26 22:37:53 2006 by tuskirr

Myself I do do alot of the old school quests, solely because they are there. They were put into game, so why not do them? I dont see any newbs doing these mostly because I dont think they realize that all these quests are here, or they dont take the time to research them.

As for the tutorial, I am split. I did them a couple times on a couple different servers. The experience you get in the tutorial is really very good. I leveled a ranger to 10 in a matter of a few hours. If your looking to level fast, then maybe its a good thing.

They do teach players the basics of the game, which is in itself good. Teaches them grouping, and the ins and outs of the who deal.

But, it worries me a tad tho. In the guild that my beastlord is in on fennin ro, there was a level 45 erudite necro who asked " Where is my hometown?" and when I told him, he asked " How do I get there?" I tell you right now, I almost cried. I think he originally thought his home town was "mines of glooming deep"

Sad

"PS It is just my opinion but the definition of a "pure" newbie is:

1. Lacking knowledge of the game because of newness and not ignorance.
2. Happy to be given a Bronze BP because it is better than what they are currently wearing.
3. Thinks Center is a helful buff and does not complain because he wants Temperance instead"

/hug Yep that's a Newbie.Far far too manny people just use the term noob...noob is the derogatory term for someone who *should* know the game/there class but does not. Say a lvl 45 beast lord who didn't use his pet because "I don't like it" (I've seen that /sigh). Or if a lvl 70 monk said they didn't know how to split pull or whatever...

As for the tutorial, I love the learning curve. I went through and was amazed at how well done it was and how much a new player could really learn.And my main drools over that damn charm....(I know kinda sad but main is only 56 and not uber)
It's just sad that it killed the newbie zones/home cities.At this piont PoK mine as well be everyones home city...

as for the old tutorial*shiver and move on*

I do rather miss the old zones. As an old player I like the fast lvls in pc/echo. Hit 40s in a couple days and be in the 50's which is where I really enjoyed playing. But I'd be ok with loosing that to have ec/nro/oasis populated again. Not because there old school per say, but because you *have* to learn group tactics to survive there. I hate watching the groups in echo(hard). Nobody cares about learning to assist or learning how to use croud control,no pull mesages or healing messages. It's just everyone killing everything and that doesn't build the playing skills needed for the rest of the game. Now grouping in the 50's is a roll of the dice. Because there are alot of Noobs there now. And there are alot of people these days who ***** about the slow lvling thinking that it should be as fast as PC and "lets go in deeper this xp suck...why did we all die?"

ok ok i'm starting to rant.

/rant off

I mostly just miss peoples desires to learn there class as well as they can and figuring out what best helps there group. Sure a cleric can nuke and theres nothing wrong with that. But when he's MH and runs out of mana after only healing once, something is wrong. I sometimes feel like I need to get to the 60's + just to group with people who really know what there doing /sigh.
No i'm not uber or lvl 70. But I try to learn everything I can about my classes and tried new things to see how well they help my groups. Sadly I feel that the many of the people who also do that are all in the 60+ bracket these days...

bah. ok this is long enough.

/bow