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#1 Feb 23 2006 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Having heard about it, having read about it, but having no clue.

What is backflagging? Does it have to do with alternate access to the planes? When/why do you need to backflag? When you missed something in the planes progression?
#2 Feb 23 2006 at 11:07 AM Rating: Default
Backflagging is simply the term used for when a guild returns to older content to get flags for their newer members.

A time guild for instance would at some point work on getting thier new members time flagged. Backflagging in some cases is now easier to do as mobs in the content they are working on such as, in this instance, plane of time drop flags that the newer members can use to get into the zone without having to be "gimped" in.
#3 Feb 23 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
You need to be "flagged" to get access to the higher planes. This you know. Everyone has to do it at some time.

"Backflagging", as described above, is simply the process of flagging people who do not have that access. These are usually newly guilded people, or more commonly, alts of main guild characters.

My family style guild periodically backflags folks to get them access to the higher level PoP zones. Some servers have open pre-flag raids where anyone can get missing flags. We seem to run PoJ trials every other week now, which does get trying at times.

The term is sometimes used when getting folks keys they need, but that is a mis-use of the term, I think. I've heard of "backflagging" PoS keys, but they're keys not flags. Flags are also good to upgrade your idol. Here is one site that gives flag info, there are many others:

http://home.kc.rr.com/less3d/eq/PoP_Seer.htm
#4 Feb 23 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Backflagging is anytime a guild goes back to content they've already completed in order to flag new members, friends, alts, etc.

#5 Feb 23 2006 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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One key feature of back-flagging is that guilds are mainly there for the flags. The loot usually goes to alts, recruits or rots.
#6 Feb 23 2006 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
Backflagging is the process of a guild going back and allowing its members to take flags that its already passed. This isn't even nessicarily something old.. just something lower. Like, in the PoP era, a Time guild would have to backflag for members who needed Elemental flags.

Backflagging generally uses alternative methods of flagging. Such as, in PoTime, there is an item you can loot that will flag you for PoTime. Why's this matter? The 85% rule. Most of the guild has it, some need it, they get it for them. Drops off trash. Only half of your Anguish-geared guild has Time flag? Well, do the math. Take all those that have the flag, then fill out the 15% seats to part of those who don't. Next time you do it, there will be more Time flagged, so you can fill out more seats, til everyone has it. There are similar backflags for Dreadspire and all.

Backflagging CAN also refer to going back and having the entire guild redoing everything together, like the posters above mentioned. However, this isn't the real meaning of the word.. just one way its used due to the confusion.
#7 Feb 23 2006 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Backflagging CAN also refer to going back and having the entire guild redoing everything together, like the posters above mentioned. However, this isn't the real meaning of the word.. just one way its used due to the confusion.

actually, it's not just a 'real' meaning of backflagging... it's the original meaning.
#8 Feb 24 2006 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
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The reason for asking (except for not knowing anything about backflagging), I found this on a character in EQ Players:

Character Flags

Planes of Tranquility - Spoke to Adhora about helping Thelin
Planes of Justice - Agreed to assist Mavuin with proving his innocence
Plane of Justice - Completed one of the Trials in the Plane of Justice. Mavuin has not yet been informed of the good news.
Planes of Justice - Completed one of the Trials in the Plane of Justice. Mavuin has been informed of the good news.
Planes of Innovation - Began Giwin's task of testing the Manaetic Behemoth
Plane of Tranquility - Backflag - You spoke with Ronar Flametip
6th Anniversery - Scavenger Hunt Completed
Depths of Darkhollow - Runed Gargoyle Shroud Claimed

If backflagging is the process of flagging people who do not have access, why is it shown as "backflag" in the profile, and not as normal access? Or is it, in this case, sign of alternative access?
#9 Feb 24 2006 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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In that instance you are right - for some reason SOE has chosen that phrase to refer to the alternate access quest for sol ro tower.

My character says the same thing together with this one under the key ring.

Planes of Power - Backflag - Tower of Solusek Ro access


So it randmoely means whatever context it is used in like so much of the English langauge.

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#10 Feb 24 2006 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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If backflagging is the process of flagging people who do not have access, why is it shown as "backflag" in the profile, and not as normal access? Or is it, in this case, sign of alternative access?

it means you can enter the zone, but can't count for 85s etc, because you used a method not meant for a guild initial progression, but rather for them to flag people who joined later on. (and people getting flagged w/o guild help in general.)
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