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#1 Mar 14 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Default
So I have some old cultural armor that I've become very attached to, but it's just not holding up stat-wise to newer, now much cheaper, armor. So I was looking into augs, Because even having better armor now in my possession, Im just dieing to put the Old stuff back on, it just looks cooler =D

So I have some questions, Some general, some specific.

Can the cultural armor be augmented?
How are augments applied?
How much ( if this is a tradeskill ) is typically charged?
How much does a decent Augment cost?
Any reccomendations for a good HP/Mana, STA, or Saves aug, that can be bought bazaar, that can be applied to cultural armor. ( on a 10k budget )

My Character is an Agnostic, High elf enchanter, Lvl 61. I wanna put my Koadal / mithril chain back on, I hate robes =(

I would really appreciate any links, or direct answers/help, really really, appreciate it, thx guys.


Edited, Tue Mar 14 13:36:58 2006 by TalonFerguson
#2 Mar 14 2006 at 1:13 PM Rating: Default
How do you get to lvl 61 and do not know about augs??
#3 Mar 14 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
Recently back to EQ from a 4 year break. School & work don't leave room for EQ, But more-so Vice versa =P



Last time I played Velious was the newest Expansion, Trade-skills finally had a purpose, & I was one of the first Master-smiths on the 'New' Tholuxe paells server. Where 200 Lvl 1-5 Elves ran around lower faydark screaming about people KS'ing their Wasps.

Nice to see a 'helpful' & welcoming community still here, Did you have something to contribute?
#4 Mar 14 2006 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't find the exact items you are referring to, but I am assuming they only have a type 7 augment slot open. If you only want to wear it for the chain look, I would only wear the chest piece and use other, better types of armor for your other equipment slots. You'll still have a chain-type look.

Do DoNs or buy crystals in the bazaar and get one of these augs:

DoN Slot 7 Augments

There are also some slot 7 LDON augs out there and other dropped ones as well. Not to mention the player crafted ones with focus effects (these are bazaar sold).
#5 Mar 14 2006 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
I've read that DoN Augments can only be applied to DoN armor & such, From what Ive read its slot 11 & 12 for player crafted armor? So those type 7 augs would not work? But I may be wrong. I'm the inquiring one here.

The armor I want to augment is player crafted, the Enchanted Elven chain pieces, & Artkeepers Mithril ______. I want the Legs, Chest, & Arms. With Plate bracers & boots, which I already own ( Golden efreeti Boots & gold chitin bracer )

Its a very cool look, but I just cant go without the HP's of better gear now though, so I'm really looking for a solution for more stats, while retaining fashion.
#6 Mar 14 2006 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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There are two types of 'DoN augments.'

The slot 11 ones are player crafted and called 'symbols'. These only fit in the new cultural armor that was introduced with the DoN expansion.

The link I provided is all slot 7 augments that need to be purchased with crystals (radiant or ebon crystals) from the merchants in Lavastorm camps back near the Broodlands entrance. All of those slot 7 augs will work on any armor with a type 7 slot.

There is a relatively easy to obtain +20 hp aug in Natimbi, but the 20 hp isn't going to go very far. If you feel you need raw HP, the DoN augs have some and if you have LDoN points, I believe there are +40 hp ones available there (I don't recall which camp). You may some of the other DoN augs more suitable, like the ones that are +14 to all stats or the ones that are +12 to all resists. There is a very reasonably priced one, called something like Warder Dragon Egg Fragment, that is +8 to all resists and +10 hp.

You can get the crystals to purchase these DoN augs by doing DoN missions or you can just purchase them from another player to use at the merchants.
#7 Mar 14 2006 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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Welcome back. My bazaar mule wears pure bronze items and he looks awesome. However, I wouldn't want to play in it. I am guilty of selling armor that doesn't look good after I buy it. But I replace it with as good or better before I sell it. I figure I can get looks and utility. Just have to look in bazaar, if you paid a reasonable price you should be able to sell it for the same, or if you got a bargain you can make a profit.

Almost nothing you got 4 years ago will be good at level 61 today. You need the augs on armor that has much better stats. You will never be able to bring yours up with augs, because you will still be weaker. Mobs are much harder now in areas you will want to go to, and you will need a lot more mana than you probably have, because so much gear has mana regen and added mana, makes a huge difference.

Just to give you an idea, I had a chanter, only level 30, I had forgotten about on another server, with gear as old as you are talking about. For about 20K I tripled his intelligence, the mana and mana regen, and that was all needed just to keep up.

Edited, Tue Mar 14 19:17:08 2006 by Kelti
#8 Mar 14 2006 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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You can get the crystals to purchase these DoN augs by doing DoN missions or you can just purchase them from another player to use at the merchants.
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are these missions similar to ldon wherein you can keep on doing the same type just to collect points? (in this case, crystals)

how much do these crystals cost?
#9 Mar 14 2006 at 9:38 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, you can do the missions over and over. To actually get the mission, the person has to have more faction than you would start out with, so it's not like LDoN that way. Anyone can get a LDoN mission. But only one person in group needs to be able to get the mission. Then at end you get some number of crystals specific to the mission. In addition, at the end of each mission, you get a Lore No Trade crystal to turn in and help get your faction up.

Crystals come in Radiant & Ebon, good and evil.

On Bristlebane they run 100pp each, least I wouldn't pay more now, they have come down in price, sometimes a bit cheaper. You can buy them on buyer side and offer less, and sometimes get them.
#10 Mar 14 2006 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the info. rate up :D
#11 Mar 16 2006 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
So glad I am not the only one that gets umm, errrmmm, flusterated when armor doesn't look to suit me!

Only a couple of things I would add to the excellent info here on augs.

One of the nicest things about any DoN augs and items is the fact that you can sell them back. You only recieve 60% (I think that is close) refund on your crystals but at least you get some of your investment back should you decide to change augs. Most other augs are attuneable or no trade and uber expensive to have to eat someday should you decide to change augs.

Also nice is that you can purchase from both the good and evil vendors. So for instance, if you are after the 14+ all stats augs, you can load up on 2 from the good side and 2 from the evil side. Whichever faction you have to visit the other's vendor I had to invis to get past the gaurds and then stand behind the vendor and right click him. I have heard of other methods, but this worked for me.

I am an aug addict wearing some 40 augs at any given time. This is only attainable though with 2-3 slot armor though. If you are into making your toon the best it can be absent uber raiding gear, Grandmaster's cultural armor is my choice, simply due to 3 aug slots on each piece. It is expensive and sometimes hard to find but worth the price imo.

Aug shopping for so many slots becomes a challenge though I will tell you, there is no point in over statting a maxed stat and it happens easy if you are multi auging.

I see some very nice augs in the bazaar, but usually any I am interested in run 400k+ each, hehe, well that will buy me 4k (absent inflation) in crystals and alot of powerful augs in the DoN camp.

Average price on Bertoxxulus for crystals/ebons was 100 and 120 respectively, lately 120 and 130 respectively. Seems there has been a run on crystals since so many peeps leveled up over the dbl xp weekend...and the DoN missions such as The Creator were nerfed making them a wee bit harder to get.

Anyway just my thoughts on the subject. Hehe being an aug shopping addict might help someone else...and my guildies can stop laughing at me in the mean time!! :)

Seamy Deathheart
70 Paladin
Midnight Tempest
Bertoxxulos
#12 Mar 16 2006 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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Also nice is that you can purchase from both the good and evil vendors. So for instance, if you are after the 14+ all stats augs, you can load up on 2 from the good side and 2 from the evil side.


I really want two ebon high resists augs, already have 2 radiant.
They have the same name like "Warded Tear Stone". Can you still get one each?
#13 Mar 16 2006 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I really want two ebon high resists augs, already have 2 radiant.
They have the same name like "Warded Tear Stone". Can you still get one each?


Yes, you can.
#14 Mar 16 2006 at 8:10 PM Rating: Default
Yes, you can get them. No the names aren't the same. I can't remember them frankly, but I will say evil augs have names like volcanic, bloodstone, etc. Sorry I can't tell from looking at them either :( Just that they have fiery, evil kind of names, while good augs have names like burnished, warded etc. (anyway I think that is right). They are the same price range though, so check the 120-150 area on the evil vendor. Sorry I have such a lousy memory!

Seamy :)

Edited, Thu Mar 16 20:16:26 2006 by Rodth
#15 Mar 16 2006 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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I think he actually is talking about the augs that have the exact same name in both camps. Just for clarity's sake, yes you definitely can get one from each camp even though they have the exact same name. As an example, on my chanter, I have both:

Warded Dragon Egg Fragment from the Dark Reign camp

and

Warded Dragon Egg Fragment from the Norrath's Keeper's camp

They are LORE and look identical in game, but you can get one from each camp. I have no idea how they identify btw (every single person I tell this to, that is their next question hehe).
#16 Mar 16 2006 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Also nice is that you can purchase from both the good and evil vendors. So for instance, if you are after the 14+ all stats augs, you can load up on 2 from the good side and 2 from the evil side.
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this is even better. the only problem now is to find enough slots for all these augs.
#17 Mar 16 2006 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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They are LORE and look identical in game, but you can get one from each camp. I have no idea how they identify btw (every single person I tell this to, that is their next question hehe).


Very cool, will help to have 4 x 14 (I think it's 14). I knew I could get different named ones, but the same name worried me, so very glad to know.
#18 Mar 17 2006 at 3:18 AM Rating: Default
My bad, they are the same names I looked tonight on my toon. It has been awhile since I got them, and 12+, 10+, and 8+. Hehe good grief I built a spreadsheet to track the stats on 40+ augs so no wonder I am confused!!

I went aug nuts when I finally had the crystals, saved them until I dinged 70 hehe. But did figure out I was wasting some slots because I had more augs than needed stats. My cap was 365 and I have able to remove a 14+ all and two 12+ all. Just punching in hp augs in their place now. When you have run out of things to spend aas on, knock out all your innates and advanced innates and you won't need as many. Well until you up your cap. Ok so stuff I am sure you all know. lol

One other thing, pick carefully what you want to equip them on, some of them the aug distiller to remove them is 4k per aug. That is the highest price distiller. I got eaten up having to buy distiller to move them when I changed armor. :(

As far as equipping all you want, GM armor!! At least you can equip 2 Don augs, even 3 if you don't get expert symbols, but I would get the symbols. Watch your slots, all the all stat augs will go in slot 7, and some (10s and 8s) I think will go in any slot. Ok if I am wrong again correct me please. :)

Seamy
#19 Mar 18 2006 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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expert augs? what are these exactly? are these player made?
#20 Mar 20 2006 at 12:45 AM Rating: Default
Yes, expert augs are player made and go on Grandmaster armor. I had to find what armor and augs would go on my toon. HE Paladin, Tunare diety, so in my case Grandmaster Moonglade armor, and expert Growth augs. The augs are item specific, ie: greeves aug, gloves aug, etc.

This is for GM armor. Not sure on the lower levels of cultural DoN armor. There are three levels I think.

Seamy
#21 Mar 20 2006 at 1:03 AM Rating: Decent
Just to point out you would be better of with Masters and GrandMasters Augments if you can aford them. They are much better than experts.
#22 Mar 20 2006 at 1:44 AM Rating: Default
Lucaron, is right. I forgot that expert is one of the levels of DoN cultural armor. I was thinking they were all expert augs, but not so. Grandmasters Growth augs are what I have. And yes if you can afford it they are the best.

Seamy
#23 Mar 20 2006 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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So you actually have 3 kinds? Expert, Master and Grandmaster?

Do you get stat bonuses if you complete the set? or it just looks good?

#24 Mar 20 2006 at 11:16 AM Rating: Default
Actually there are 4 levels:

Journeyman armor and symbol augs -- required level of 15.

Expert armor and symbol augs -- required level of 35.

Master armor and symbol augs -- required level of 55.

Grandmaster armor and symbol augs -- required level of 65.


All armor is race and class specific. (ie: he paladin = moonglade)

All augs are deity specific. (ie: tunare = growth)

Slots on armor are 7, 11, and 12.

Cultural symbol augs are slot 11.


The armor stats themselves are not outstanding by any means, it is the slot 11 aug that makes this armor itself a very nice piece, then allowing two additional aug slots to make it very customizable to fit your needs.

Edit: Also there are matching charms that gain power if cultural armor is worn. It has one aug slot and is classified the same. Journeyman, Expert, Master, Grandmaster.

Seamy








Edited, Mon Mar 20 11:23:09 2006 by Rodth

Edited, Mon Mar 20 11:21:57 2006 by Rodth
#25 Mar 20 2006 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, any level of aug can go in any level of armor, so you could have Expert augs in Master's armor (if you can't find/buy crushed diamond dust) or Expert augs in Journeyman's Armor (if you cannot make/buy the Expert armor). You just have to be the required level for the highest aug/armor tier to wear it and it is ATTUNABLE meaning once you equip it becomes NO_TRADE.

#26 Mar 20 2006 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the info.

in bertox, i only see the symbols (expert, master etc). the stats were great but i was wondering about the slot 11. i don't have gear that have these slots.

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