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#1 Apr 20 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
I've looked around but all I can find is old information. Are tradeskills capped by level? My lvl 55 druid has 260 baking but cannot seem to get it above that... did 10 stacks of combines and not one skill up. So my question is, is there something else i need to do before i can raise my skill further(i.e. AAs, higher level, quest, etc...) or was that just a run of bad luck? Or (/cringe) is everything past 260 always that rough for skill up percentage?
#2 Apr 20 2006 at 6:51 AM Rating: Default
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Tradeskills are capped at 5x Lvl +5, so you should be able to get to 280 at lvl 55. You didn't have a run of bad luck, you are just seeing the norm. Ten combines and no skill up is typical at that lvl, actually 20 combines and no skill ups is pretty typical.

Good luck in your trade skills, it is a pain.
#3 Apr 20 2006 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
Thank you for the lvl cap, but it was 10 STACKS and no skill up... I was getting around 1 skilll up per stack before 260... if the rate goes down that much I may not even try for more =/
#4 Apr 20 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
Except to spend a TON of materials.

Tradeskills like baking are not level capped like combat skills.

It is not out of the question to burn through 10 stacks of materials and get very few skillups.


Check out EQTraders.com for a comphrensive and detailed look at the percentage forumlas that are (theoretically) used in tradeskill skill ups.
#5 Apr 20 2006 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Tradeskills are capped at 5x Lvl +5, so you should be able to get to 280 at lvl 55. You didn't have a run of bad luck, you are just seeing the norm. Ten combines and no skill up is typical at that lvl, actually 20 combines and no skill ups is pretty typical.



This is wrong. Standard Tradeskills are not level capped. Class specific skills like alchemy and poisonmaking still are, I believe, but your standard tradeskills are not.
#6 Apr 20 2006 at 8:11 AM Rating: Default
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Thank you for the lvl cap, but it was 10 STACKS and no skill up... I was getting around 1 skilll up per stack before 260... if the rate goes down that much I may not even try for more =/


Still not too rare, but seems a bit of a bad run. Make sure you get mind crack and your wis is maxed when you tradeskill. Other than that just keep plugging away and spending the $$$$$ to get to 300. I wish you the best of luck.
#7 Apr 20 2006 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Helps to have Wis/Int >255 (toons over 60)

I have lost count on the number of stacks of Kaladim Constitutional combines I have done with zero skillups past 268 in brewing. His Wisdom is hovering near 250 though.

#8 Apr 20 2006 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
When I plan on doing a round of skill ups for my tailoring I always pop my AA Veteran reward for maxing all my stats. This seems to help me get skill ups more consistently, but it is still slow once you get up there and only lasts for a short time each day.
#9 Apr 20 2006 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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if you pop the reward in the guild hall you can keep the stats max for as ong as you need

Edited, Thu Apr 20 15:32:59 2006 by zodon
#10 Apr 20 2006 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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This is wrong. Standard Tradeskills are not level capped. Class specific skills like alchemy and poisonmaking still are, I believe, but your standard tradeskills are not.


No alchemy no longer has the cap either.

Rough estimate is 7% skill ups, so you do 100 combines you get 7, of course that almost never happens because random doesn't work that way. I have done 100 combines and received 2 or 3 or 9 (though very seldom more than 6, least it seems).

You can only get 1 standard TS over 200 IIRC, without aa's, but you are well past that point.

Also can't go over 300 I don't think. Never do TS without a wisdom (or intelligence) booster, and dex which everyone says doesn't matter (I'm a shammy so who cares, will continue anyway).

#11 Apr 20 2006 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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This is wrong. Standard Tradeskills are not level capped. Class specific skills like alchemy and poisonmaking still are, I believe, but your standard tradeskills are not.
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No alchemy no longer has the cap either.

Rough estimate is 7% skill ups, so you do 100 combines you get 7, of course that almost never happens because random doesn't work that way. I have done 100 combines and received 2 or 3 or 9 (though very seldom more than 6, least it seems).

You can only get 1 standard TS over 200 IIRC, without aa's, but you are well past that point.

Also can't go over 300 I don't think. Never do TS without a wisdom (or intelligence) booster, and dex which everyone says doesn't matter (I'm a shammy so who cares, will continue anyway).


Not quite true on both account. The traditional 7 are not level capped. So, smithing, tailoring, brewing, baking, jewelcraft, pottery and fletching can be maxed to 200 at level 1. You can take one skill to 300 unless you get Tanaan AA to bring rest to 300.

It used to be old 5xlevel plus 5 was the norm for racial and class related tradeskils like alchemy, poisonmaking, tinkering and research. What is true for now is that you can not start the tradeskill until a certain level but once you hit that level, they are not level restricted. For example, alchemy, you can not start until you are level 25. The trainer will let you put points in to Alchemy at level 25 but you are restricted on how many points you can put in to the skill, like the main 7. So, it's possible to get to 300 skills at level 25 for Shammies.

Taushar

#12 Apr 20 2006 at 8:02 PM Rating: Default
Fishing and Foraging are level capped.
#13 Apr 21 2006 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Fishing is not level capped and forageing is not a trade skill

After a skill level of 250 its a crap shoot for skill up and I have read that later on (not sure of the level) that there are a required number of combines for a skill up.

Edited, Fri Apr 21 09:34:49 2006 by Krackum
#14 Apr 21 2006 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Bad post misread what I was replying to

Edited, Fri Apr 21 09:39:15 2006 by Krackum
#15 Apr 21 2006 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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So, it's possible to get to 300 skills at level 25 for Shammies.
Not saying this is wrong but ARE there any shammies here with Alchemy skill > 5*(level +1)?

Mine is not. His level is 42 and he is stuck at Skill level 215. He is not my main, in fact he is like my 5th alt so he does not see much playing time. Every time I have gained a level past 30 I have noticed this. As much as I try to raise the skill it gets stuck at 5*(level + 1). As soon as I level, I gain 5 skillups within the next few stacks combines. Then it stops until I level again.

I decided long ago not to waste money on combines once his skill was 5*(level +1). More so now at level 215.
#16 Apr 21 2006 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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if you pop the reward in the guild hall you can keep the stats max for as ong as you need
Vet reward's timers now RUN in the guild hall. Not sure about being shrouded. Good news is they can no longer be dispelled.
#17 Apr 21 2006 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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Not saying this is wrong but ARE there any shammies here with Alchemy skill > 5*(level +1)?


See my sig. My Shammie is at level 26 and is at 226 in Alchemy. It all depends on what you want to do. I did mine so I can reliably make gate potion for my other melee toons who can not gate. While I may level him up more but it wasn't too bad getting him to 223 before the new Alchemy system came out. It was all done with vendor bought items, albeit a bit expensive, but no where as expensive as doing tailoring, smithing or tinkering.

Taushar

Edited, Fri Apr 21 18:19:13 2006 by Taushar
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