(I'm on the FV server so this may be a server specific question.)
This one is driving me nuts...
...I set my options to use the tell window; that catches my attention when it pops up when someone sends a tell to me. When I first returned to EQ and received a tell, the window popped up and I could type into that tell window which was very handy and kept the tells from getting missed due to other chat.
About 3 weeks ago I started experiencing something odd that hadn't happened previously - I would receive a tell, the window popped up, I answered in the window as before, and the other person would say they didn't understand my language. I use two regular windows in game, one for all the melee info and the other for chat/guild/emotes/anything *not* melee related. Both windows are set to Elvish as the language. I've looked for the menu to set the language on the tell window but haven't seen one. Now to be understood in a tell I have to type the ;t <name> which takes more time and then the tell goes to my regular chat window. This is so frustrating, especially because I *could* type directly into the tell window initially and be understood. I have no clue what I might have checked or clicked or inadvertently hit a key that changed this.
Does anyone have any ideas how to solve this mystery and allow me to type directly into the tell window again and be understood? Many thanks in advance.
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Terrillian Mistfyre
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I seem to have this problem as well. /language x where x is a number will change the language of the tell window (when typed in that tell window)
Bless SOE for this complication.
Languages do not have a fixed reference number, it depends how which you have learned, so say for instance you only Elvish that would be 0, then if you learned human that whould be 0 and elvish would become 1.
Typing /lang in the tell window will tell you which is the langauge it is set to.
Typing /land # will set the window to the langauge where # is the number of the language. Right clicking on your main chatwindow and selecting language will give you the list of what languages you have, and that is relevant to you only. Changing the default here will not help your tell windows - read on:)
Doing it this way you will have to type /lang # for each new tell window.
To actually change the defauly. Log out. Find eqclient.ini in your everquest directory. In there you will find a line that is Defaultlang=#. Change that line so the # is equal to what you want your default to be!.
Clear as mud:) - but I am sorry that is the way it is. That Defaultlang line seems to change for me if I roll a new character, there is NO WAY to change that in game and that is the line that affects your tell windows.
Safe journeys and happy tells to you.
Languages do not have a fixed reference number, it depends how which you have learned, so say for instance you only Elvish that would be 0, then if you learned human that whould be 0 and elvish would become 1.
Typing /lang in the tell window will tell you which is the langauge it is set to.
Typing /land # will set the window to the langauge where # is the number of the language. Right clicking on your main chatwindow and selecting language will give you the list of what languages you have, and that is relevant to you only. Changing the default here will not help your tell windows - read on:)
Doing it this way you will have to type /lang # for each new tell window.
To actually change the defauly. Log out. Find eqclient.ini in your everquest directory. In there you will find a line that is Defaultlang=#. Change that line so the # is equal to what you want your default to be!.
Clear as mud:) - but I am sorry that is the way it is. That Defaultlang line seems to change for me if I roll a new character, there is NO WAY to change that in game and that is the line that affects your tell windows.
Safe journeys and happy tells to you.
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Thank you for responding, Baeddon & egnaro. I feel better knowing I'm not the only one this has confused, but gah! The tell window couldn't be set up to...oh, I don't know...maybe be in the same language as the main chat window is set to? That would be too logical. Thanks, SOE...lol.
At least I now know the fix. I do have a follow-up question: So if there's no fixed language reference number, and let's say I know a bit of all the languages but Elvish the best...would Elvish always be 1 until I learned another language to the equal ability of Elvish? (Not likely but just trying to wrap my head around these numbers.)
To experiment, I'm going to change the default in the eqclient.ini file to 1 and see how that works.
Many, many, many thanks for your help with this. Every time I get a tell and respond in the window, I want to hit my head on the desk when I hear "I can't understand you."
At least I now know the fix. I do have a follow-up question: So if there's no fixed language reference number, and let's say I know a bit of all the languages but Elvish the best...would Elvish always be 1 until I learned another language to the equal ability of Elvish? (Not likely but just trying to wrap my head around these numbers.)
To experiment, I'm going to change the default in the eqclient.ini file to 1 and see how that works.
Many, many, many thanks for your help with this. Every time I get a tell and respond in the window, I want to hit my head on the desk when I hear "I can't understand you."
Terrillian Mistfyre
Owner/Operator of The Redhead Express
Intellectually honest, not politically correct
Owner/Operator of The Redhead Express
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An alternative solution (and the one I use, as I often have different windows set for different languages for teaching purposes), is to use 1 window for general communications, i.e. group, guild, say, tell, ooc, shout, and sometimes auction, depending on the server and zone. I use tells you and told you audio triggers, as well as having tell color and tell echo colors set differently than other verbal messages. And also set my main chat (the one with the above filters) set as my default chat window, the only one my typing goes to.
When teaching a language, I set my group to a different window, and set the language for that window to what I want to teach, so my other channels stay the default, and I only have to switch group back to the main window to return to normal operation and language.
If you carry on lots of multiple (more than 2 at a time) tells often, the tell window may be better suited, but of course, the language problem persists. If you choose to go this way, getting 1 pt in each standard language should keep you from having to ever change your default language ini setting again, unless you happen to start to learn one of the three rare unknown languages. I don't remember if it's the same on FV or not, but there are many GMs on the regular blue servers that know most, if not all of the standard languages, and you can just buy 1 pt in each to learn the basics, and box or group with someone to teach each other to 100 in all of them, the way learning works now. The main GM I remember is the Rng Hlf GM in Rivervale, knows all of the standard languages.
Another note about teaching, after having done it so many times, is that there is only one chance per line to skill up, so keeping the lines short, like the following macro, keeps your log files smaller, and cuts down on amount of spam and delay:
My old macros were NPC sayings from game, like quotes from the Nybright drunkard in Kelethin, the guards in Kelethin, the guards in High Hold Keep, and the paranoid / whiny NPC in HHK, Isabella Cellus (Would you please stop following me!!, and I just adore this place.) just for the comedic and remenisant (sp?) qualities.
EDIT: Bah, I forgot to mention that /em will always show in common, so everyone in /say range can read it. I used to this alot on FV, and still do for macros on all servers.
Yther Ore.
Edited, Aug 10th 2011 4:51pm by Yther
When teaching a language, I set my group to a different window, and set the language for that window to what I want to teach, so my other channels stay the default, and I only have to switch group back to the main window to return to normal operation and language.
If you carry on lots of multiple (more than 2 at a time) tells often, the tell window may be better suited, but of course, the language problem persists. If you choose to go this way, getting 1 pt in each standard language should keep you from having to ever change your default language ini setting again, unless you happen to start to learn one of the three rare unknown languages. I don't remember if it's the same on FV or not, but there are many GMs on the regular blue servers that know most, if not all of the standard languages, and you can just buy 1 pt in each to learn the basics, and box or group with someone to teach each other to 100 in all of them, the way learning works now. The main GM I remember is the Rng Hlf GM in Rivervale, knows all of the standard languages.
Another note about teaching, after having done it so many times, is that there is only one chance per line to skill up, so keeping the lines short, like the following macro, keeps your log files smaller, and cuts down on amount of spam and delay:
/g a /g b /g c /g d /g e
My old macros were NPC sayings from game, like quotes from the Nybright drunkard in Kelethin, the guards in Kelethin, the guards in High Hold Keep, and the paranoid / whiny NPC in HHK, Isabella Cellus (Would you please stop following me!!, and I just adore this place.) just for the comedic and remenisant (sp?) qualities.
EDIT: Bah, I forgot to mention that /em will always show in common, so everyone in /say range can read it. I used to this alot on FV, and still do for macros on all servers.
Yther Ore.
Edited, Aug 10th 2011 4:51pm by Yther
Azalysa wrote:
Thank you for responding, Baeddon & egnaro. I feel better knowing I'm not the only one this has confused, but gah! The tell window couldn't be set up to...oh, I don't know...maybe be in the same language as the main chat window is set to? That would be too logical. Thanks, SOE...lol.
At least I now know the fix. I do have a follow-up question: So if there's no fixed language reference number, and let's say I know a bit of all the languages but Elvish the best...would Elvish always be 1 until I learned another language to the equal ability of Elvish? (Not likely but just trying to wrap my head around these numbers.)
To experiment, I'm going to change the default in the eqclient.ini file to 1 and see how that works.
Many, many, many thanks for your help with this. Every time I get a tell and respond in the window, I want to hit my head on the desk when I hear "I can't understand you."
At least I now know the fix. I do have a follow-up question: So if there's no fixed language reference number, and let's say I know a bit of all the languages but Elvish the best...would Elvish always be 1 until I learned another language to the equal ability of Elvish? (Not likely but just trying to wrap my head around these numbers.)
To experiment, I'm going to change the default in the eqclient.ini file to 1 and see how that works.
Many, many, many thanks for your help with this. Every time I get a tell and respond in the window, I want to hit my head on the desk when I hear "I can't understand you."
Hi Azalysa,
I feel your pain - I have lived with this for so long :)
To answer your follow up question, though, no it has nothing to do with the skill levels at all, your only guide can be the order the appear in the right click on your main chat window. For instance I have 10 skill in Goblin, which is my language number 15 and yet I have 100 in many others that come after that. It is not alphapetcial either - I am a darrk elf and was born with the Language and yet it is Langauge number 4 to me. The important thing to remeber really is look at the list in your main chat window and remember it starts at 0 not 1 - set your defaultlang to that number !.
Yther is correct in that if you learn all the languages, then of course the numbers will stay fixed - but only on that character, and from my experience, if you roll a new toon, say for instance a troll (shudder I know) youwill still have to reset the defaultlang line in your ini file!
Another thing I should also mention, just to throw it all in there!. If instead of typing in the tell window you /r from the main (or any other window) it will use the defaul langauge from that window
Happy days :)
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So I was going my merry way last night and out of the blue (a lot of things in EQ seem to happen to me "out of the blue") I received a tell from someone I'd never met asking if I'd like to group with them. Ahhhhh...a chance to try out my newfound tell window fix, thanks to Baeddon & egnaro. I had changed the eqclient.ini file to the number 1 as my best guess of language number. I responded to the tell and got the now very familiar response - "I don't understand the language you're speaking; can you please speak in Elvish?" ARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I'm a Woodelf and am speaking Elvish; SOE is just messing with us. (I didn't say that but was thinking it.)
I typed in /lang # (thank you SO much again you two!!) and found I was speaking Barbarian, probably from spending so much time with my Barbarian merc! lol I set about changing the default language, beginning with 0 and...
...yep - Elvish for me is #4.
I had not read this response at the time and I'm not in game yet, but I'm pretty sure that on my chat window Elvish is #4. That above piece of info is priceless! Thank you so much again!! After making that change, I was once again understood in the tell window!!! WOOT!!!!
Thank you for your response, Yther. I learn so much from you all. I use two chat windows and also have one set up exclusively for anything "chat related" (say/guild chat/OOC/emotes, auctions, etc.) and the other for melee. I do tend to get more than one tell at the same time often so sticking with the pop up tell windows, now that I know how to be understood in them, will work best for me, but I love hearing how others have their windows/chat arranged as I sometimes tweak mine to be more efficient.
I did put 1 point in each of the languages, including Elder Elvish which my GL told me I was speaking once, unbeknownst to me..lol. I'm wondering when I'll run into someone speaking Goblin or Orcish.
Ohhh, that is excellent to know. My GL was teaching a group of us a language recently and spammed what I think is either the motto of our guild or her personal signature. It's nice to know a single letter accomplishes the same thing.
((reminiscent *smiles*)) Ohhhh...I used to spend a lot of time back in the day at High Hold Keep; I'd forgotten about Isabella Cellus - now I have to go pay her a visit. Maybe a good therapist would help her issues. *grins* Something that always cracked me up was a dying Orc Pawn saying the entire Orcish army (or words to that effect) would avenge his death. Ummmm...there's a reason his title is "Pawn."
I'll always be a dyed-in-the-wool "Old School" EQ player; my memories of the beginning are wonderful. Norrath seemed so "wondrous" then and we were all learning to navigate it together. Those long ocean voyages from Faydwer to FV were such fun, or somewhat dangerous if one disembarked too soon and found themselves stranded on some island in the middle of nowhere. I wish I could somehow recapture that spirit instead of hearing constant "Selling TA (whatever that is) for 15K" type spam in general chat. I guess that's the current version of bartering in the East Commons tunnel. I went looking for that tunnel the other day and it apparently no longer exists. The LDoN NPCs have been relocated in a new tunnel in the wall on the way to Befallen.
I've been reliving my EQ past more than usual this week because something triggered the memory of a person I regularly adventured with back in the day. He was the person who showed me how to get to the Plane of Growth and, since his main was about 10 levels higher than mine, escorted me through the Wakening Lands (I think) so I could arrive at zone in safely. He was one of those truly wonderful, giving people that make EQ worthwhile and became one of my best EQ friends/duo-partner. Tragically, he was killed in 2006 at age 35 in a horrific chain-reaction traffic accident that made headline news in his city. When I am in places where he and I used to spend time, I still can't believe he is gone.
Ok...back on task...
Excellent!! That will keep me from forgetting to use /say and end up posting what I'm sure looks like totally random text in the general chat window...lol.
Woot!!! I knew there *had* to be an easier way to deal with this tell issue than to constantly type ;t<name>, especially when the person has a name like Eeieolioee.
Again, many thanks for your kind and extremely helpful responses. I'd asked everyone who popped up in my tell window if they knew how to fix this issue and no one did.
Happy adventures!!!
P.S.
If you don't already have one, it would be such fun if you all rolled a toon on FV and we could do some Old World adventuring...if even one time.
I typed in /lang # (thank you SO much again you two!!) and found I was speaking Barbarian, probably from spending so much time with my Barbarian merc! lol I set about changing the default language, beginning with 0 and...
egnaro wrote:
I am a darrk elf and was born with the Language and yet it is Langauge number 4 to me.
...yep - Elvish for me is #4.
egnaro wrote:
The important thing to remeber really is look at the list in your main chat window and remember it starts at 0 not 1 - set your defaultlang to that number !.
I had not read this response at the time and I'm not in game yet, but I'm pretty sure that on my chat window Elvish is #4. That above piece of info is priceless! Thank you so much again!! After making that change, I was once again understood in the tell window!!! WOOT!!!!
Thank you for your response, Yther. I learn so much from you all. I use two chat windows and also have one set up exclusively for anything "chat related" (say/guild chat/OOC/emotes, auctions, etc.) and the other for melee. I do tend to get more than one tell at the same time often so sticking with the pop up tell windows, now that I know how to be understood in them, will work best for me, but I love hearing how others have their windows/chat arranged as I sometimes tweak mine to be more efficient.
I did put 1 point in each of the languages, including Elder Elvish which my GL told me I was speaking once, unbeknownst to me..lol. I'm wondering when I'll run into someone speaking Goblin or Orcish.
Yther wrote:
Another note about teaching, after having done it so many times, is that there is only one chance per line to skill up, so keeping the lines short, like the following macro, keeps your log files smaller, and cuts down on amount of spam and delay...
Ohhh, that is excellent to know. My GL was teaching a group of us a language recently and spammed what I think is either the motto of our guild or her personal signature. It's nice to know a single letter accomplishes the same thing.
Yther wrote:
My old macros were NPC sayings from game, like quotes from the Nybright drunkard in Kelethin, the guards in Kelethin, the guards in High Hold Keep, and the paranoid / whiny NPC in HHK, Isabella Cellus (Would you please stop following me!!, and I just adore this place.) just for the comedic and remenisant (sp?) qualities.
((reminiscent *smiles*)) Ohhhh...I used to spend a lot of time back in the day at High Hold Keep; I'd forgotten about Isabella Cellus - now I have to go pay her a visit. Maybe a good therapist would help her issues. *grins* Something that always cracked me up was a dying Orc Pawn saying the entire Orcish army (or words to that effect) would avenge his death. Ummmm...there's a reason his title is "Pawn."
I'll always be a dyed-in-the-wool "Old School" EQ player; my memories of the beginning are wonderful. Norrath seemed so "wondrous" then and we were all learning to navigate it together. Those long ocean voyages from Faydwer to FV were such fun, or somewhat dangerous if one disembarked too soon and found themselves stranded on some island in the middle of nowhere. I wish I could somehow recapture that spirit instead of hearing constant "Selling TA (whatever that is) for 15K" type spam in general chat. I guess that's the current version of bartering in the East Commons tunnel. I went looking for that tunnel the other day and it apparently no longer exists. The LDoN NPCs have been relocated in a new tunnel in the wall on the way to Befallen.
I've been reliving my EQ past more than usual this week because something triggered the memory of a person I regularly adventured with back in the day. He was the person who showed me how to get to the Plane of Growth and, since his main was about 10 levels higher than mine, escorted me through the Wakening Lands (I think) so I could arrive at zone in safely. He was one of those truly wonderful, giving people that make EQ worthwhile and became one of my best EQ friends/duo-partner. Tragically, he was killed in 2006 at age 35 in a horrific chain-reaction traffic accident that made headline news in his city. When I am in places where he and I used to spend time, I still can't believe he is gone.
Ok...back on task...
Yther wrote:
I forgot to mention that /em will always show in common, so everyone in /say range can read it. I used to this alot on FV, and still do for macros on all servers.
Excellent!! That will keep me from forgetting to use /say and end up posting what I'm sure looks like totally random text in the general chat window...lol.
egnaro wrote:
If instead of typing in the tell window you /r from the main (or any other window) it will use the defaul langauge from that window.
Woot!!! I knew there *had* to be an easier way to deal with this tell issue than to constantly type ;t<name>, especially when the person has a name like Eeieolioee.
Again, many thanks for your kind and extremely helpful responses. I'd asked everyone who popped up in my tell window if they knew how to fix this issue and no one did.
Happy adventures!!!
P.S.
If you don't already have one, it would be such fun if you all rolled a toon on FV and we could do some Old World adventuring...if even one time.
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Owner/Operator of The Redhead Express
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