AA's in VOA locked behind language progression.Follow

I've noticed that many class AA's "latest ranks" and spells are locked behind the language progression in VOA.In my opinion, this is a mistake on the developers part.

I'm thinking that their reasoning was to make people "work" for their spells and AA's as many complained on EQ Forums that task adds in HOT were creating too many lvl 90's with many aas that hardly actually played the game and were thus inexperienced with their character for their lvl. So they nerfed the HOT task/Missions xp which will solve that problem no matter if we agree with the solution or not.

But for the developers to force us to do the entire linear arc of progression to get our basic lvl 92-95 rk2 spells and almost all of our lvl 90-95 class AA's from VOA is not good. The tasks/missions are not repeatable for language points.. For me personally, this will not stop my Necro main and my chosen alts (SK,Shammy).

But I find myself playing my other much loved alts almost as much as my main 3 nowadays. Especially with returning players as many are in the 65 to 85 ish range and can get better aaxp with my 70-88 "strong alts" some of which I purposely leave below my main for that reason and for the other old world content I still enjoy from time to time.

For one to have do almost all VOA tasks/missions on every character just to get enough language points for their basic Rk.2 spells and most class AAs will discourage many from even levelling their alts above 90. Though I know I am in the minority in EQ as far as playstyle-3box but with many other alts which I still totally enjoy playing.

It would be interesting to hear others views on this issue.


Edited, Nov 16th 2011 4:21pm by hexeez

Yes Tatankaseventh,I see your point.

True that it doesn't really affect my three 90's as they always do progression for the gear,unlocking zones etc..except for my 88 Berserker and 87 wizard which I simply dont have time to do the arc of missions for... re: the other lower ones,youre right it doesn't make a difference as I want them to stay lower for a good while at least.



Edited, Nov 16th 2011 4:41pm by hexeez

I feel the pain of the OP. I was so happy when I heard that the zones wouldn't be locked away in progression because I am often struggling to find groups in specific zones (either they aren't flagged or I'm not flagged). I also three box when I can't find a group. Now if I want to three box and be effective I will need to three box even more and turn away real groups so I can run my boxes through together so they all learn the language and can buy their much needed AA's.

I just have to accept that we are the minority and they need to do something to keep the others occupied. If I didn't box I don't think I would play much once I got to 95 and my AA if they didn't have the language requirements. The irony is that I didn't box until UF made it very necessary for me to do to progress so I could play with others in higher tier zones, the exact thing they eliminated in VoA.

I am not sure the language thing is "fun" but I do get the feeling of progression.

One thing that I did like is you could see exactly where you were in the language (faction). No more guessing, looking at /cons.

That said, I agree with the posters the majority of folks won't want to repeat these, as all but a few have no repeat rewards at all.

I feel for the soloers/those habitually LFG.

Even though I'm up to 82 language thanks to a strong fellowship of groupers, I sympathize with the frustration so many are feeling over this progression.

While the Class AA's give people a good reason to pursue the progression, it's also the biggest reason for the frustration with it. I've been the player in the past who's mostly stuck solo without a dependable group. It is bad enough to struggle for new gear/spell drops, having AAs locked away from you is just an added frustration.

I know I read about likely future plans to remove the requirement for AAs once the content isn't current, I'm just sorry some people will be stuck waiting til' then involuntarily, and hope the annoyance doesn't pull the final straw for too many.

After 8 months, the language requirements decrease. I'm not sure if they drop to 0 or just reduce by a % (and then reduce again 8 months later.)

FYI, there are 4 end grouping zones this time, not 2. People complained that HoT only had 2 end grouping zones, so they added 2 more. Pillars of Alra, Windsong Sanctuary, City of Bronze, Sepulcher of Order (which has a separate zone for east and west Sepulcher) are the T4 zones.

My highest (and main) I suppose is my necro as well. I understand the frustration, but... the expac isn't even a week old. Presently everyone needs the kills/tasks/named. In that scenario groups tend to overule soloers simply by the ability to control more spawns.

This doesn't mean the progression isn't soloable in some regards, but it is perhaps a bit much expecting it to be on-demand readily soloable while it is at its popularity peak. If the language progression was easily soloable within the first week of the expac is there any point to it being there at all?

They (SoE types) have said the lang. requirements will be lessened eventually. One could surmise that will happen when peak population has moved beyond those early zones/tasks. The devs have intentionally bottlenecked this. The devs (while history has proven this wrong numerous times in respects to intentions vs. results) aren't intentionally trying to shrink the game by forcing people to quit.

If people want to do this stuff fast and early... socialize and group up. Keeping in mind that if that isn't your preferred normal playstyle you might still have a hard time with it since guild groups stick together best when they have common goals such as this to do.

Personally, when I bother to buy a new expac I tend to stay out of the new zones for months. Busy zones to the point of crowded seems to bring out the few remaining clowns in this game and that just isn't worth seeing for me.



Edited, Nov 24th 2011 10:38pm by snailish