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Anyone have any experience with shrouds? Any good references? I'm using one and it's kind of weird. Can you equip these with better items and stuff? Or you just can't use anything but what you get from the shroud itself?

I don't think you can put any equipment on yourself while shrouded. They are generally pretty underpowered. They are good for plvling and thats about it now adays.

(unless this has been changed)

The evil eye shroud let's you be an enchanter... with a some stuff chanters don't get like a version of Spirit of the wolf (sigh --my chanter would love that). Not particularly good for group play. But, at a certain point (50+ iirc) you get a very good charm spell. This lets you do any quest where faction is an issue* (in older content). Anytime you read a quest like OT gate hammer and there is posts telling you to use puppet strings you could use the chanter shroud instead.

*The devs changed philosphy on the chanter class and quests around Omens of War (might of been Gates of Discord... my memory says oow). At this time they broke (on all new content... still works in old stuff) the line of spells (alliance) that temporarily makes npc like chanters more (granted not much PoP and later stuff had faction npc anyways for the quests --a sad break from game-lore) and removed the ability to multi-quest (you could do all but the final turn-in on a quest with other characters as long as the character you wanted to get the final reward did the last turn in. This was really good for giving low levels stuff they wouldn't be able to solo).

As a chanter main at the time, this was a serious gut-punch as it was one of the huge fun benefits of the class (being able to impersonate races, improve faction and do questing roleplay-deviously)... further compounded later when shrouds came along.

I much prefer new Innothule. Nektulos 2.0 was terrible, 3.0 is reasonable, Lavastorm was superbly reborn --but it was tied into purposeful additions to the game. Stall bazaar was a crashing lagfest on some servers. When they stick to the classic zone layout and just polish up the graphics... I see no harm in revamps done thoughtfully to lore, or necessary to improve gameplay.

Shrouds... if they hadn't been the sly way to save a pet kit, would they have ever been seen? I can't recall ever seeing anyone play one outside of the first 2 weeks of that expac except to cheat a quest. If the "shroud to 70" trick was nerfed I think they would be the most coding/least used feature in the game... to me shrouds are one of the best examples of expac sell hype candy.

LDoN is sad because it was sooo popular.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm shrouding to a level 5 enchanter and it's kind of fun and an interesting way of playing different classes without actually having to make a new class- maybe I'll try a melee shroud because I have no idea what a melee pc is like. I notice the enchanter uses the yellow bar sometimes; I've always wondered what that was for- it's got no purpose for the wizard pc as far as I've ever been able to notice. Also sometimes there is a grey bar that pops up- what is this bar for, anyone?

But I played the pixie prankster for about 8 hours and got up to 21% unlock for fairy wizard so the xp is slow coming for me. Remember now how much I hate the low levels. Died several times to yellow orc centurions. Despise not being able to gate and actually having to run away and keep running with something on your tail. But it would be a lot more fun to shroud if you could use equipment on your shroud. Half the fun of the game is the equip aspect. But I see what they were going for with the group play thing. But they've got a pretty good foundation they could expand on to open up some really cool things here.

I'd like to see if the shroud changes form as you get more ability; anyone know?

edit: oh and just for info sake, I'm pretty sure that you lose xp for your real character if the shroud gets killed. I'm not positive though, but I started worrying about it after I died twice, and once I deshrouded, I swear it looked like the blue xp bar had gone down. By the way, what is the purpose of the blue xp bar ? meaning, in the yellow xp bar there's another bar

Edited, Sep 22nd 2013 4:04pm by broonsbane

Bottom line, its a defunct aspect of the game, like Monster Missions or Shadowrest.

Rogue Sneak / Hide and Cleric Divine Barrier line of stuff is nice every once in a while too.

Excellent resource. Minotaur berserker? Awesome.



Oh okay so there is shroud equipment. The trickster has a staff which I looked and saw had "race: shroud" and wondered if it was just a way to let the shroud have it's starting equipment, or if this meant there was more equip out there to get. So this is really cool news. Not as cool as being able to equip race:all but equipment is equipment. Thanks for the info this makes it better. This is cool, I think I really dig the idea of shroud- especially as free2play, this let's me get around only having 2 pcs

Yther is that list of shroud equip results the entire known catalogue of shroud items (at least as far as that site database you refereence? meaning, did you just do a basic search for "all shroud equip" and this is the returned info?



I'll see if I can't find one to try out and add the info.

Quick question: this shroud has different skills like it has singing skill, wind instrument skill, stringed instrument, etc. How do these increase? I'm looking for musical instruments to buy somewhere, or some quest? The only items I find by searching are for bards, but this is an enchanter shroud. Anyone know how the skills llike singing and music instruments work?

I'm not sure on all of them, but I've tried increasing the rogues skills, and they're at there level cap when you pick the shroud level. Like you can't pick lock a 300 skill lock at level 35, since pick lock doesn't go that high that soon for a Rogue. Some of the cross class skills, you'd probably have to test out to be sure, but I'd imagine they're capped for the level also. A few shrouds (like your mention of Enc with Bard skills) have unique for the class skills.

Yea, I left out all / all bags on the 2nd link, and maybe the all / shroud bags on the 1st link, don't remember. But bags would be the only equipment missing from either of them, and containers don't really need a race or even a class to equip in the inventory slot, anyway.

Yther Ore.