SoE dropped the Ball.. .I mean Bag again.Follow

SC wouldn't fall under the same rules as gift cards. Gift cards are meant to be transferable (and therefore act as "cash" between all parties) whereas SC explicitly is not.

When you purchase Station Cash, you do agree to the Terms & Services which states:
(all bolding mine)

I know the standard argument about the validity of EULAs but, in absence of anyone presenting a law to the contrary, someone claiming damages because they received their SC but couldn't buy the item they wanted when they wanted wouldn't have a case.

The issue here would be deceptive practices. No amount of shrinkwrap disclaimers would prevent legal actions based on that.

Years ago, I accepted a credit card company's offer for a balance transfer at a very low interest rate with the duration being promoted as "until the balance is paid off." I took it. Well, a year or so later the company cancelled the deal and gave me the choice of paying off the balance in full (on 30 days notice) or paying it off at a much higher rate. They pointed to language in their agreement that said they reserved the right to change any terms and conditions at any time at their sole discretion. Well, clearly this contradicted an advertised offer of a low rate "until the balance is paid in full." I had the $ to just pay it off so I did.

I read a couple years later that a law firm had pursued a class action against that company and won damages plus substantial punitive damages with a claim of deceptive practices.

Here's a question... we all know Sony will shut down EQ some day, and probably like with the closing the Mac server, without a lot of advance warning. What do you think if Sony announced in July 2019 a one-week "quintuple Station Cash" promo: you buy SC and get 5x as much for each $1 you spend. Then right after this sale ends they announce they're shutting down the servers in two weeks. You think they could get away with that? If you do, then how about they shut down the servers with one day of advance notice and announce this on the last day of the sale?

Clearly, there's some level of corporate behavior which would amount to fraud and deceptive practices, no matter how much boilerplate disclaimer language is crammed into a EULA.

Let me also add that I also don't think this bag promo fiasco was intentional on the part of anyone at Sony. But I do think it was a snafu whose possibility should have been better anticipated and/or responded to MUCH faster. Even if this had gone bad, a quick response from an authority figure that they're looking into fixing the problem and would extend or renew the offer real soon would have placated everyone but those who enjoy griping.

Really?

Drama is nearly extinct at Zams. Whenever little bits spring up we have to nurture and cultivate them.

...I don't even play EQ!

Did anyone try to free up 4 inventory slots and see if it worked? I guess what I'm getting at here is that it's possible that there was nothing wrong with the store at all (and nothing nefarious), but folks just didn't realize they needed an open inventory slot for every bag in the offer. I fully admit not reading through the piles of people whining about this, so it's entirely possible that this was fully covered, there was something specifically broken with the 4 bag deal, etc.

I'll point out again though that you got the station cash you paid for. That station cash didn't poof, nor did it debit it but give you nothing in return. You still have what you purchased and can use it in the future for additional purchases. And it's not like they'll never have a big bag offering again. In fact, they'll likely have an even better one at some point in the future, so I guess I'm just not getting the deal here.

Now, what's annoying is me having purchased 3 additional merc slots (to bring the total to four), only to get an email a few days ago saying as a reward for my loyal playing/paying/whatever, they're giving me a free merc slot. Gee. Would have been nice to know that a month ago. Still, I purchased it when they had a half price deal going, so it's really not that big a deal.

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Yes, both you and Joph are like (video) on this point.




Repeating something doesn't make it true, it's just annoying annoying..

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 12:34pm by Trappin

Yes. I did free up four slots before I tried to buy the bag package. SoE has admitted that there was a problem and that they will make the offer for bags again, soon. They said it will be for a longer time period.
Quote today from Piestro (SoE Public Relations)
"Due to the malicious actions of a few gnoll evildoers (they tried to ruin our lands), the large bundle of Wayfarer's Pocketed Rucksacks was not available last Friday as we had hoped. In an effort to make these bags available for those of you who were interested, and to continue to thwart the efforts of gnolls everywhere, we'll be putting this bundle back on the Marketplace from the afternoon of Friday, December 6, 2013, until 11:59pm Pacific on Sunday, December 8.

So jump in game this weekend, stand against the gnolls, and pick up one of these bundles! You won't regret it! " https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/the-wayfarers-pocketed-rucksack-bundle-is-returning-to-the-marketplace-for-a-limited-engagement.205529/
Thanks You SoE.

Why would you need to even reply to this as an administrator.... and I think you are a JERK. They pull your title out of a crackerjacks box?
Lot lead up to that comment I when I replied.


Edited, Dec 5th 2013 5:39am by Vinney

Vinny, you've become an object for bloodsport here. When the picadors from the asylum begin airdropping into the arena, it's time to hunker down, or suffer the spears.

Refrain from posting when angry.

Edited, Dec 5th 2013 6:06am by Trappin

Because you're being an *** to my forum posters and you need to cool it? And I didn't see the thread until now?

As to my title, Yup! Right next to this big ol' mute button. Ain't it shiny? Care to see how it works?

Strike 1!

Vinney... I see no point in calling out Kaolian (someone who probably hasn't needed to read a thread on the EQ board in ages). A PM may have diffused the situation, or at least let you air "your side" in a more constructive way. I read most of your posts as you sounding really angry (in this thread) and that is out of character for our local housing guru and PVP on zek guru.

Look at your ratings per post in this thread: once people understood your original point, post #1 became "excellent" rated. You've also got a "sub-default" in the same thread. I don't think I have ever seen that for someone that doesn't start off as "excellent" (it happens in the asylum because some of the posters there like to be intentinally inflammatory and don't mind some karma sink as the cost of their fun).

I've also rarely seen someone rated down below "decent" on the EQ boards that wasn't a plat seller or emu fanboi. This thread is probably one of the most rated* in the last couple of years, but maybe we've become numb to that on the EQ boards as people don't use it enough?


*and actually rated properly, based on what the individual post actually said.

Ok, thats the way you want to play, Strike 2 and 3. E-mail me when you feel like playing nice and we'll see about unmuting you.

Im afraid thats the way i see it also Hex.