Are there any non-line-of-sight pulling spells?Follow

This is the HOLY GRAIL of EQ puller classes! If you find one, let us all know! I think druid harmony can still be used without LOS but you'd have to get a resist that pisses a mob off for it to work as a pulling technique and that just isn't gonna be reliable or convenient!

Drakkin Breath weapon..... does not need LOS and can go through Walls.... and around corners, I have pulled so many trains with it....

Critical failures are extremely rare, but when they happen, they increase the aggro range of the mob, basically nullifying the effect of the pacify on the other mobs. It's nasty if it ever happens to you, but seemed more likely at lower levels, with lower stats and abilities. I'm not sure how it's calculated. I think the last time it ever happened to me was back at level 70 in DoN Creator mission. Luckily it was only 3 mobs.

Again it's pretty rare, and you may have never seen it happen. I don't remember if the emote says it's critical or not, but that's just what people have called it, since already pacified mobs come with the failed one. Most failures are just normal, and even those are pretty uncommon.

The drakkin breath is probably due to the target type being the same frontal conical AE as other like Hail of Arrows and Vineleash that work through walls. PBAEs work well for through walls pulling or getting summoned through locked doors as well. Never tried a targeted AE through a wall myself thouh. Those may work as well, but I think those are los to the target.

Yther Ore.

If you have a pacify type spell, just pacify the mobs (which you can do absent LoS), then step into the room and tag the one you want. If you don't, then you have to get "creative".

One interesting point about aggro pulling that isn't immediately obvious (and yeah, this isn't about LoS, but whatever), is that there is a different aggro range for "social aggro" versus "effect aggro". What that means is that there is always a radius around a mob where if it's aggroed on you, it will pass that aggro onto any mob socially related to it. However, there is a larger radius around a mob where if you do something to it (like hit it with a spell) it will pass that aggro onto other nearby social mobs.

In many cases then, it's a matter of figuring out which mob to tag. Root becomes an interesting pull spell (ironic, yes). Say you have three mobs in a room. One to the left, one to the right, and one in the middle. If you directly affect the one in the middle, it'll bring both of the other ones. However, if you affect one of the ones on the side, that one will come and the one in the middle, but the mob on the far side wont get aggro. Sometimes, however, the pathing of the mobs will cause the one on the side you directly aggroed to path into the middle of the room, then out the doorway (or whatever) towards you, thus bringing the one on the far side. However, if you root the one on one side, it wont move and will only cause the one in the middle to aggro. But since that one wasn't directly affected by you, it wont pass aggro on to the third mob. It'll come by itself.

I commonly clear 3 spawn rooms with my wizard by rooting the one on one side, the taking out the middle mob solo. I then target the non-rooted mob and take it out solo. Then finally, I take out the rooted mob. Obviously, this doesn't work for all spawn locations. If they're close enough together you're going to get all the other mobs in the room no matter what you do. But sometimes you'd be surprised how by selecting the right mob to tag can make a huge difference in how many come after you.

And very clever root pulling tactic!

Yeah. I'm generally doing this with mobs that are easy enough that I can handle 2 of them if it comes to that (and even three, but that can get a bit hairy), but it's more effective to take them one at a time. It's a bit more of an option for a wizard because we get self rune spells and fast damage (and fast casting damage spells, so getting beat on isn't as much of a deal breaker). Wizards can also significantly increase their dps at the expense of mana efficiency. Obviously, if I'm soloing, then kill rate over time matters most, but having the ability to go full burn if needed is nice.


And seriously don't get me started on what happens with a full set of GL buffs up. Sheesh! It's ridiculous.