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#27 Jul 17 2014 at 6:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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That is strange. Maybe it's just a graphical update thing? Dunno.


Seeing that no one else has had the issue it must be something I am doing that is causing it.

I now suspect that it must be my "out of group" Shammy who heals and sometimes finishes fleeing mobs or any mob with below 30% Hp with his top poison DD spell (Bite of...) or if not dead yet and fleeing a second DD spell (Spear of... ).


When EQ is accessible again (hopefully by later today) I will test this out. Because I always see the xp message so took it for granted that if the character gets the XP message for the kill he gets to loot also..I may be dead wrong on that..
#28 Jul 17 2014 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah but XP being split between ungrouped players doesn't cause mob corpses to poof early, or have no loot.
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#29 Jul 17 2014 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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What I'm contemplating is, that if the SK's Damage Shield whittles a lower lt blue con mob down say 25-30% (a guess) and the out of group Shaman Bite and/or Spear poison dd spell totals for say another 20-25% of the mobs hp... if in some cases that is over 50% damage from DS and out of group damage combined vs the SK's melee/spell damage.. In effect, putting the SK's combined melee and spell damage under 50% of total damage.

In those conditions I wonder if it would be possible for the SK to get the xp message in his chat window but not be able to loot many mobs in the pile (because of multiple mobs poofing before getting an opportunity to loot) as his total dmg, excluding DS is under 50% damage..

Yes I know that I am clutching at straws with this one..



Edited, Jul 17th 2014 10:36am by hexeez
#30 Jul 17 2014 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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The two are linked, as far as I know. If you get the exp message, you and anyone in your group can loot the mob. The only exception is raid looting, which is a whole different animal (and you get the raid exp message instead of the usual one anyhow). If you're getting the message, you're getting the loot rights.

And even if you didn't get the credit (cause the Shaman KS'd), the mob wouldn't just poof. Someone got credit for the kill, and the mob will stay until that someone loots (or until the normal time period passes, which is like 20 minutes or something). As far as no-one getting credit, damage from DS just doesn't count as damage for purposes of kill credit. The remaining damage that was done is used to calculate who gets the kill. So unless there's an invisible NPC floating around doing damage to the mobs you're fighting, and that NPC is doing more than the damage any PC (or PC group) is doing, then this shouldn't be happening.

Don't suppose you're fighting mixed groups of mobs that hate each other? Cause that could potentially cause this. Again though, you would not get the exp message.
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#31 Jul 17 2014 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the info all.

Yeah I know for sure that its happened when I'm the only one in the zone.

The mobs in that LP camp have no hate for one another but some are social. From what I remember, pulling a Worg will draw agro from any Skeleton in agro range but not the Orcs.
Pulling an Orc will only draw agro from other Orcs..And Skeletons drew Worg agro but not the Orcs iirc.

Just logged in on 1 account so I'm going to test it out in Fort Mech if my Shm account could log in. LP is mainly green now (SK/Shm now at 95) so I'll head to FM as it happened there in the past also and FM should be lt blue cons still.

Edit Jul-22 :Tried in Fort Mech and LP (most mobs now conning green) and cannot get the phenomenon to happen atm..will post any solution if I find any.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2014 7:35am by hexeez
#32 Jul 17 2014 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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