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#1 Jul 02 2014 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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...I know none of you will read this, which is a shame.

The people that regularly read this board do not need your kitchen, relationship or financial advice. We have nothing against Nigeria but are unwilling to help the numerous "princes" that seem to need our urgent intervention.

As such, you are wasting your time multiple posting here. Surely there are other more lucrative locations for your predation?


At the very least, recognize your audience is a mature group of gamers. Arguably: intelligent, stubborn, nostalgic gamers (look at the game we are playing, odds are more of us own Sega Genesis sitting in a closet than a current Xbox)... so at least aim your pitch at our interests? No... scratch that. Just go away. That is the best solution.


To those reading this after admn nukes the latest... informative spam poster <cough> ...know that they laid down 8+ worthless threads. All of which I am going to rate down, even though I know they will be nuked.
#2 Jul 02 2014 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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YES SIR!! Smiley: clap Well said! It is rather tedious to go through and mark them all spam which i normally do, but way to many today.

P.S. I do still have a Sega Genesis and a PS2 Smiley: grin
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#3 Jul 03 2014 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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I got a simple solution for the programmers here.

Don't let anyone with a "new" account (just made and/or zero post count) make more than one post in 15 minutes.

Or, alternatively, if anyone who is new (as described below) makes more than 2 new posts within 15 minutes, delete the posts automatically and cancel/ban the account.

I'm registered on other forums and they take actions like this to discourage and remove spammers.
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#4 Jul 03 2014 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm on several boards where the first few posts must be approved by a moderator before being allowed to openly post. Works well.
#5 Jul 07 2014 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Or, as a simple start, require a given post count before a new poster can start a new thread. Doesn't prevent spamming in existing threads, but at least prevents the problem of whole threads that have to be nuked (which in turn dorks up the thread listing on the front page).
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#6 Jul 07 2014 at 5:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Or, as a simple start, require a given post count before a new poster can start a new thread. Doesn't prevent spamming in existing threads, but at least prevents the problem of whole threads that have to be nuked (which in turn dorks up the thread listing on the front page).



This could work.

They'd probably have to make a sticky "I'm a new poster here with a question but I am not allowed to post a new thread"... (the keys sticky could be folded into the FAQ sticky since we don't want tons of stickies either).

...with instructions for the veteran posters to "quote the newbie poster's question and start the new thread for them please".

Otherwise we become a closed shop to the new blood, and a lot of the current guru-ranked posters started with newbie questions in the last 5 years, so we don't want to do that.
#7 Jul 08 2014 at 2:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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How many legitimate new posters actually start out creating new threads? Most people start out posting in other threads first, then start creating their own threads as they gain more familiarity with the forum. I suppose this could be inconvenient for the occasional new person who creates an account in order to ask a question about whatever game they're playing, but those questions almost always could be asked in an existing thread (there's usually at least something along a similar topic to what you want to know). I'm honestly not familiar enough with the posting patterns on most of the gaming forums here to know how much of an inconvenience this would actually be.

An alternative (which would require a bit more coding) would be to have all threads created by posters below a certain post count appear in a "new user forum" regardless of where they actually attempted to create the thread. The admins now have one spot to look for spam to nuke, and can move actual real threads created by actual real users to their respective forums. This method will trick the spam bots into not realizing they're being blocked, whilst solving the problem of threads choking up forum pages. The downside is that someone has to check through the new user forum to nuke the spam threads (but that actually should be a time savings compared to right now), and you'll have to deal with the inevitable "where did my thread go?" questions. Stickies with information (and informative helpful veterans) can alleviate this though.

Lots of possible solutions IMO.
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#8 Jul 09 2014 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
How many legitimate new posters actually start out creating new threads? Most people start out posting in other threads first, then start creating their own threads as they gain more familiarity with the forum. I suppose this could be inconvenient for the occasional new person who creates an account in order to ask a question about whatever game they're playing, but those questions almost always could be asked in an existing thread (there's usually at least something along a similar topic to what you want to know). I'm honestly not familiar enough with the posting patterns on most of the gaming forums here to know how much of an inconvenience this would actually be.

An alternative (which would require a bit more coding) would be to have all threads created by posters below a certain post count appear in a "new user forum" regardless of where they actually attempted to create the thread. The admins now have one spot to look for spam to nuke, and can move actual real threads created by actual real users to their respective forums. This method will trick the spam bots into not realizing they're being blocked, whilst solving the problem of threads choking up forum pages. The downside is that someone has to check through the new user forum to nuke the spam threads (but that actually should be a time savings compared to right now), and you'll have to deal with the inevitable "where did my thread go?" questions. Stickies with information (and informative helpful veterans) can alleviate this though.

Lots of possible solutions IMO.



I agree (lots of possible solutions).

New account could have their first 10 posts "held" until approved by an admn. for posting. If one admn had to do this, it's probably more efficient than hunting down all the fresh spammers across the boards. Or something.... probably should have the second half of this thread in the forum feedback area instead of EQ general Smiley: smile
#9 Jul 16 2014 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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No holds please, I came here because of the soe domain loss, looking for answers and then found myself finally posting something I wanted to for eons and never did.

I like that fold in FAQ idea and a few others. Great minds....
#10 Jul 21 2014 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd do something like a two hour delay between the first 5-10 threads that you start. That way anyone could start an account and ask a question but they just couldn't start multiple new threads all at once. Which doesn't sound all that onerous. It would also stop the "Fifty threads by Dadmajaboli123334 spamming about black magic" issue. He could post one to start and maybe post three before an admin wipes him anyway. Sure, you could make fifty accounts with one post each but that's a lot more intensive than making one account and posting fifty times.
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#11 Jul 21 2014 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd do something like a two hour delay between the first 5-10 threads that you start. That way anyone could start an account and ask a question but they just couldn't start multiple new threads all at once. Which doesn't sound all that onerous. It would also stop the "Fifty threads by Dadmajaboli123334 spamming about black magic" issue. He could post one to start and maybe post three before an admin wipes him anyway. Sure, you could make fifty accounts with one post each but that's a lot more intensive than making one account and posting fifty times.



"new poster delay between threads"... I like it.
#12 Jul 22 2014 at 4:23 AM Rating: Excellent
I like it too. Especially when I check on a day like today and see 20 or so spam threads from some idiot. Controls are easy to put in place for something like this.
#13 Jul 22 2014 at 5:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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This level of spam is ridiculous...At the moment there are 23 back to back "threads" by a troll from the subcontinent.

They probably use this site as they saw Allakhazam while looking for targets to spam their wares.. as they think it sounds like it is indigenous name/site from their region...

I agree, its time to limit the amount of posts that a new account can post on the threads. Sadly some genuine new posters would be affected but it devolved to this point.
It almost looks as if the spammer got vex when seeing the title of this post so he/they decided to ups the ante, thus 23 posts of spam from the reprobate.

Time for preventative action !

Edited, Jul 22nd 2014 7:19am by hexeez
#14 Jul 22 2014 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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hexeez wrote:

It almost looks as if the spammer got vex when seeing the title of this post so he/they decided to ups the ante, thus 23 posts of spam from the reprobate.

Time for preventative action !

Edited, Jul 22nd 2014 7:19am by hexeez




...they irony of (if indeed this thread did) inciting the spammers to waste their time here.


action taken in that I am going to find the site-feedback forum and link this thread.
#15 Jul 23 2014 at 2:04 PM Rating: Excellent
I reported those threads (well not all, I reported one and noted that the forums had 20 or so others). But they really need to put some kind of controls in for this; anti-spam code. I bet it's not that hard to do.
#16 Jul 25 2014 at 5:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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The spam offender from the sub continent is back atm..5 more back to back threads.

I Hope ZAM puts a mechanism in place to stop or inconvenience them (at the least).
#17 Jul 26 2014 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good

Forum spam has gotten absurd now. At least it's only 6 today, but it really is a turn off to visit the forums.
#18 Jul 26 2014 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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I have to be honest, the spamming doesn't really bother me that much. I just bypass those posts and find the ones that are REAL forum posters. I haven't had any trouble telling the difference.

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#20 Jul 27 2014 at 5:32 AM Rating: Excellent
Another 8 this morning. This is now practically a daily occurrence. And it pisses the snot out of me. Can't fricken stand it!
#21 Jul 27 2014 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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There were another 400 in here to go along with those 8 last night. i happened to be up at about 3am to kill them off. Believe me, this whole situation pisses me off as well. We're supposed to finally get some developer attention to implement the specific anti spam modifications i've been requesting for 3 months now soon, after they are done adding unnecessary menues to the bottom of everything I guess.
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#22 Jul 27 2014 at 7:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sort of glad they fixed the everquest skin. I always had a super long scroll bar because of the unorganized footer. But that's been in need of fixing for years. The spam problem is more recent and critical.

I'll still thank them for fixing the footer. It's been so long that it's been broke (in looks, I think the links still worked) it's freaking me out that it looks so good.

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#23 Jul 28 2014 at 5:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow....30 "threads" by the troll atm. The miscreant has become even more belligerent now.
#24 Jul 28 2014 at 5:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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The real irony is they're completely wasting their time and effort. Anyone seriously believe browsers here are clicking those links?

Of course, the whole process is automated, no doubt, so it's the blind leading the blind---and they're all robots! LOL
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
after they are done adding unnecessary menues to the bottom of everything I guess.

Have to question the sincerity of the Powers That Be in fighting spam while they continue to find new ways to spam us with crap.
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#26 Jul 28 2014 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
There were another 400 in here to go along with those 8 last night. i happened to be up at about 3am to kill them off. Believe me, this whole situation pisses me off as well. We're supposed to finally get some developer attention to implement the specific anti spam modifications i've been requesting for 3 months now soon, after they are done adding unnecessary menues to the bottom of everything I guess.



I feel for you.

Know you efforts are appreciated. It's nice to see an admn post here, we don't thank you guys & gals enough. I always get a kick out of finding a random Fleven post thanking someone for an updated deep in some obscure quest/item thread.
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