MQ free EQ? Anyone?Follow

I really need to know if anyone cares to have pure a EQ. One without cheats.

Cheats outside of what you have been seeing posted lately of autobots farming. These people sometimes are banned not for the use of MQ but for making it run while not at the keyboard and foolishly or intentionally not utilizing checks to insure to do so while others are not around.. Many of the smarter programmers have built programs that are much smarter and also hide in the many HA/instances. Or many simply use these as bot programs to control many chars with little to no effort and still be more capable than most of the players actually playing them.

The major majority of all of the cheating and hacking comes from this software's framework. Many sites both paid and free have been providing this junk for 10+ years.

I would like see this finally resolved. I have challenged the staff to do something about this. They will not acknowledge it. People get all huffy and puffy when i mention doing something about it. "Your idiotic, Goth, for suggesting such a stupid idea"

Really is it such a bad idea to have a game free of cheats and overwhelming advantages to those that use it? I find it very odd that people would be upset about the removal of such software. Is EQ really this dependent on it.

IMO its time to stop turning a blind eye to the issue.

Is DBG more worried about making money on an openly cheated game than to lose some money on a game with more integrity?

Who wants something done about it? We all complain about cheaters but whats the point if you do not want to do a thing about the source of the problem?

My guess this will be locked and I could be banned. Some will be happy im sure. Its sad really. This will be the real answer to weather or not something will ever be done about MQ on EQ. If this is locked with no staff response to fixing the issue and im banned i will know this staff has no intention of making this game free of MQ.

For those of you who honestly do not use it. I am sorry for you, as you are at distinct disadvantage. You need to know that until something is done there are people out there that are cheating the game and the staff has no intention of doing anything about it unless you are one of these fools openly autoboting and get these video bans.

I doubt any staff here will ban you or lock the thread since this ain't Daybreak.

As to the rest of your post...I dunno.

It's not a bad idea. The problem is actually doing it. I'm not aware of a single MMORGP that does not have cheats that players can use if they choose to. It's vastly easier to exploit code that to write code that can't be exploited. But you're welcome to try.



Honestly? It's a matter of cost versus return. And sadly there will always be a set of players who wont play a game that they can't use cheats in, so you're basically demanding that daybreak spend money to reduce their customer base (and lose revenue). At the end of the day, EQ is not really a competitive game, it's more of a cooperative game. Someone else cheating doesn't affect me unless their cheats are actually taking away rewards I might otherwise have obtained by playing honestly. And as you mentioned, when players use MQ to do that (some kind of play disruption affecting other players), that's when they get targeted. IMO that's about what they should be doing. More than that hits a rapid point of diminishing returns IMO.



No. We're playing at exactly the advantage level we should. The cheaters are really only cheating themselves in the long run. There's really no value in anything you do in the game except the satisfaction of doing it, right?




/shrug

I honestly don't determine my own self worth based on the relative uberness of my EQ character compared to others. I play to have fun. As long as the cheaters aren't actually interfering with my play, it's not really affecting me at all. Would I prefer that no one cheat? Absolutely. Do I want DB to spend resources preventing people from engaging in cheating that doesn't negatively affect my playing experience in any way instead of spending those resources adding new content and features to the game that will positively affect my playing experience? No, I don't.

I'd argue that there's far more mudflation in EQ than inflation. More farming and selling means more supply for the same demand, means lower prices over time. As a long time player of the game, it's sometimes shocking to me how easy it is to maintain good gear levels just with buyable stuff in the bazaar. I'm not saying this to excuse cheating, but just to counter the argument that the effect of using such cheats to increase farming output really hurts the rest of us that much. Unless someone is using a cheat to monopolize spawns in a zone (zone disruption, camp/kill stealing, etc), the only effect it has on me is make the items they're farming more available and less expensive. Which means that I can camp the areas I want and buy stuff that drops in places I'm not camping.

Some of us remember the days of camping for months at a given location, not because it was the best exp, but because that was the one place in the game where the one item you wanted/needed dropped. Today? I can hunt where I want without concern over what specifically drops there. To be honest, the player economy in EQ actually works reasonably well in this regard.



Sure. But as I wrote in a few posts farther down this thread, that's much more an issue for rare epic type drops that you can't get anywhere else or via any other method. Outside of epic drops, I just haven't encountered any real problems with this. And the epic drops would be better solved by changing the way they are obtained, or how the quests themselves handle turn ins.




I don't think they disregard it. They have to weigh that issue with the hundreds of other issues they have to deal with. The fact that they aren't dropping everything else and attending to this one thing right at the moment you talk about it doesn't mean they are doing nothing.



As the response on that forum indicates, this is a subject that has been raised many many times. Raising it again doesn't change their awareness of the issue. It was locked because the exact same issue was already being talked about in another thread on the same forum. Posting the same exact subject repeatedly is generally considered bad form. There's a point at which it stops being informative, and just becomes whining. And that's never productive.

Edited, May 12th 2015 4:45pm by gbaji