Are there any guilds on Igraine Hibernia that would be open to new members and:
1) Are hospitable to gay members -- in other words, guild chat is polite and respectful toward gay people?
2) Are plugged into alliances that are active in RvR and mid and high level raids?
3) Are serious about the game but realize it's a ultimately a game and an escape rather than just another one of life's political dramas?
4) Are supportive of newcomers?
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Please allow me to make several small points, and please understand that these are not criticims of your lifestyle.
I do not understand the reason for this question, DAoC explicitly forbids players from forming guilds that are "Hate Mongering." That includes anti-gay, anti-religious, anti-ethic, etc. guilds. Mythic also forbids players from harassing other players about above said matters.
How do people know you are gay in order to offend you, unless you openly talk about it. That would be making it a "Political" issue that isn't related to the game. I am not gay, but I am an atheist (and many people have referred to that as "spiritually homosexual"). I refuse to mention it in such a public forum as a game because the same segment of the population detest my beliefs and my lifestyle are the same that detest yours. I'd rather just enjoy the game. I don't care if people flame me on message boards and on UseNet, but I have many friends in-game and would rather them not create any political issues with me either. It is information that is impertinant to gameplay, so I simply allow the information to stay as it should - undisclosed.
There is a certain segment of the player base (children) that commonly refer to unpleasant things as "gay" like (one I've seen): "those mass mezz spells are SO GAY" Remember that these are children, and they have no bearing on your life. This is just a game - as you have pointed out. Besides, the same rules apply to their behavior as to the paying adults that play the game. Report them. Mythic doesn't tolerate it, nor should you, or I or anyone. I simply ask them not to speak like that around me - in game or otherwise, because it is stupid and offensive. If they start a major confrontation over it and begin taunting me, I report them. Of course, any reputable guild will instantly kick them out for causing issues with other members, regardless of Mythic's involvement.
The best answer is: find any reputable decent guild (there are tons), ask the few players that are being offensive to stop, and report the ones that refuse.
You will end up with a cleaned up guild and the respectful environment which you (and all of us) deserve.
I do not understand the reason for this question, DAoC explicitly forbids players from forming guilds that are "Hate Mongering." That includes anti-gay, anti-religious, anti-ethic, etc. guilds. Mythic also forbids players from harassing other players about above said matters.
How do people know you are gay in order to offend you, unless you openly talk about it. That would be making it a "Political" issue that isn't related to the game. I am not gay, but I am an atheist (and many people have referred to that as "spiritually homosexual"). I refuse to mention it in such a public forum as a game because the same segment of the population detest my beliefs and my lifestyle are the same that detest yours. I'd rather just enjoy the game. I don't care if people flame me on message boards and on UseNet, but I have many friends in-game and would rather them not create any political issues with me either. It is information that is impertinant to gameplay, so I simply allow the information to stay as it should - undisclosed.
There is a certain segment of the player base (children) that commonly refer to unpleasant things as "gay" like (one I've seen): "those mass mezz spells are SO GAY" Remember that these are children, and they have no bearing on your life. This is just a game - as you have pointed out. Besides, the same rules apply to their behavior as to the paying adults that play the game. Report them. Mythic doesn't tolerate it, nor should you, or I or anyone. I simply ask them not to speak like that around me - in game or otherwise, because it is stupid and offensive. If they start a major confrontation over it and begin taunting me, I report them. Of course, any reputable guild will instantly kick them out for causing issues with other members, regardless of Mythic's involvement.
The best answer is: find any reputable decent guild (there are tons), ask the few players that are being offensive to stop, and report the ones that refuse.
You will end up with a cleaned up guild and the respectful environment which you (and all of us) deserve.
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Thank you for your respectful reply.
Yes, I did indeed read some minor remarks from people who probably didn't know I was gay because I didn't mention it to them. Frankly, I would simply rather be with a cooler group of people. To me, it's a much smarter and more effective way of dealing with the problem. Find a cool group of people. Which is what I'm trying to do by posting here.
Oh, and my partner plays the game with me, although she has never interacted with this particular group of people. It becomes quite obvious after a while that 1) We are sitting in the same room together, and, 2) That we care deeply for each other.
This isn't a case of being political. It's simply a matter of being our very human, affectionate and often funny selves.
Sometimes you use wield an ax in situations. In other circumstance a scalpel is more efficient.
A defter touch is called for on this occasion.
Yes, I did indeed read some minor remarks from people who probably didn't know I was gay because I didn't mention it to them. Frankly, I would simply rather be with a cooler group of people. To me, it's a much smarter and more effective way of dealing with the problem. Find a cool group of people. Which is what I'm trying to do by posting here.
Oh, and my partner plays the game with me, although she has never interacted with this particular group of people. It becomes quite obvious after a while that 1) We are sitting in the same room together, and, 2) That we care deeply for each other.
This isn't a case of being political. It's simply a matter of being our very human, affectionate and often funny selves.
Sometimes you use wield an ax in situations. In other circumstance a scalpel is more efficient.
A defter touch is called for on this occasion.
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Hehehe, those last two sentences were unintelligible. What I meant to say was:
Sometimes you wield an ax in situations. In other circumstances a scalpel is more efficient.
A defter touch is called for on this occasion.
Remind me not to post so early in the morning.
Sometimes you wield an ax in situations. In other circumstances a scalpel is more efficient.
A defter touch is called for on this occasion.
Remind me not to post so early in the morning.
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Barbgirl has a legitimate question.
In my experiences roleplaying often contains an element of flirtation and pseudo romance. Sometimes this romance even evolves into player marriages in the game setting. While not essential to gameplay many people enjoy this flirtation. Is it fair that someone is excluded because they are gay? Gays are constantly put into situations where they put themselves aside to avoid making the rest of us feel uncomfortable. That's just not right.
It sounds like Barbgirl's situation is less about forming a gameworld romance than it is about expressing affection for her partner. I would want to feel comfortable with that as well, and looking for a group of people open to this expression is both sensible and appropriate.
I wish I had some leads for you Barbgirl. If you run into Essosin on Guinevere- Hibernia do say hello!
Ken
In my experiences roleplaying often contains an element of flirtation and pseudo romance. Sometimes this romance even evolves into player marriages in the game setting. While not essential to gameplay many people enjoy this flirtation. Is it fair that someone is excluded because they are gay? Gays are constantly put into situations where they put themselves aside to avoid making the rest of us feel uncomfortable. That's just not right.
It sounds like Barbgirl's situation is less about forming a gameworld romance than it is about expressing affection for her partner. I would want to feel comfortable with that as well, and looking for a group of people open to this expression is both sensible and appropriate.
I wish I had some leads for you Barbgirl. If you run into Essosin on Guinevere- Hibernia do say hello!
Ken
To answer your questions:
1) It's not a matter of being respectful to "gay" people. It's about being respectful to everyone.
2) Our alliance is fairly big and we have regular events for lowbies, ToA raids ect.
3) We pay 12 bucks a month to get away from reality. And it is just a game when everything is said and done.
4) We welcome anyone who would like to join and always do what we can to help.
Send one of us a tell in game or visit our site if you want more info. www.furiant.ws
Either way let us know if you need help. :)
1) It's not a matter of being respectful to "gay" people. It's about being respectful to everyone.
2) Our alliance is fairly big and we have regular events for lowbies, ToA raids ect.
3) We pay 12 bucks a month to get away from reality. And it is just a game when everything is said and done.
4) We welcome anyone who would like to join and always do what we can to help.
Send one of us a tell in game or visit our site if you want more info. www.furiant.ws
Either way let us know if you need help. :)
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Hiya yes i have a guild u may join we love everyone its called disturbed :) not joking btw... i tend to be on before 3pm est or as late as well 6am or weekends maybe even during the week if u can catch me i will invite u or u can reply with a time and ill meet u :) yes we will crush the albs and mids but albs first :)
heres the website http://tygerdesign.net/Disturbed/# that should work
Edited, Wed Apr 7 05:28:12 2004 by Majinn
heres the website http://tygerdesign.net/Disturbed/# that should work
Edited, Wed Apr 7 05:28:12 2004 by Majinn
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you must really not want a guild as bad as i thought u havent replied to me yet
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Well Come play inour guild, i cant gurantee that someone might say something like ahh that was gay, but we dont go around gay bashing or just using the lifestyle as a means of venting frustration in everyday gameplay, but our guild is only 14 strong.
Well good luck in guild hunting. This game is the worst for tring to find a good guild, i wish there where some that did not swear all the time but hey always someone to break the rules.
My in game name is dunkirk
Well good luck in guild hunting. This game is the worst for tring to find a good guild, i wish there where some that did not swear all the time but hey always someone to break the rules.
My in game name is dunkirk
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Dear Maginn and Dunkirk,
Please accept my apologies. We haven't logged in for quite a while. We have found a great guild with wonderful, funny, knowledgable people and we have been busy playing the game, which now has an entirely new dimension for us.
Thank you so much for your gracious invitations. You are very classy people. We will look for you in-game and will help your guildies whenever we see them.
Please accept my apologies. We haven't logged in for quite a while. We have found a great guild with wonderful, funny, knowledgable people and we have been busy playing the game, which now has an entirely new dimension for us.
Thank you so much for your gracious invitations. You are very classy people. We will look for you in-game and will help your guildies whenever we see them.
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Before I start, I am not gay, but I understand gays. I understand that homosexual or 'gay' people dont care for the opposite gender and turn to their own gender.
Even though the christian bible did talk about homosexuality being wrong, and seeing that I am very intrested in religion at this point. I dont support nor dissaprove of it. Gay is just what people say when they dont like something, not anything to be taken as an insult, I am 13 years old and I know that people at my school use gay as an insult, I try not to lie, I have said it quite a bit, I try not to because, well people ARE gay! thats just how they feel and there is absolutely nothing wrong with someones feelings.
I understand that people in MMORPGs are immature at times and its got to be very hurtful towards another person or you. I dont know of any homosexual-friendly guilds, but I try to give supposrt to gay people, just remember that people should not disrespect you or anyone else for how they feel (or disrespect anyone at all) I wanted to tell the people out there that there is no 'gay' because the actualy meaning of the word gay is happy, not "having love for the same sex".
Yes I am 13 years old and I have come to a mature solution that I have been told for years and years. "Dont tell unto others as you wouldnt want others to tell unto you" whatever you feel is your decision and again, should be respected. this has been a lecture from Robbitz The dread pirate over and out :)
Edited, Wed May 26 20:45:42 2004 by Robbitz
Even though the christian bible did talk about homosexuality being wrong, and seeing that I am very intrested in religion at this point. I dont support nor dissaprove of it. Gay is just what people say when they dont like something, not anything to be taken as an insult, I am 13 years old and I know that people at my school use gay as an insult, I try not to lie, I have said it quite a bit, I try not to because, well people ARE gay! thats just how they feel and there is absolutely nothing wrong with someones feelings.
I understand that people in MMORPGs are immature at times and its got to be very hurtful towards another person or you. I dont know of any homosexual-friendly guilds, but I try to give supposrt to gay people, just remember that people should not disrespect you or anyone else for how they feel (or disrespect anyone at all) I wanted to tell the people out there that there is no 'gay' because the actualy meaning of the word gay is happy, not "having love for the same sex".
Yes I am 13 years old and I have come to a mature solution that I have been told for years and years. "Dont tell unto others as you wouldnt want others to tell unto you" whatever you feel is your decision and again, should be respected. this has been a lecture from Robbitz The dread pirate over and out :)
Edited, Wed May 26 20:45:42 2004 by Robbitz
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Hi I saw this post and had to reply. I am not gay. I have some friends that are though and they're great people. But my fiance and myself are among those who use the words gay and *** in our daily vocab. Like "This is gay", or "what a ***". We even say that to eachother lol. It's not a lashing out at that lifestyle. I am not approving or condemning it either. It's just something we like to say. Never around anyone like that so not to offend. But as far as this wonderful game goes, lets not make it a PC(lol no pun intended) issue. Let's just enjoy the game and kick Alb and Mid butt!
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IMO, if your real-life sexual preferences become an issue in the GAME, then you're playing the GAME incorrectly.
Am I gay? Am I an atheist? A transvestite? A Christian? You will never know. That's the way it should be in a game such as DAoC.
Am I gay? Am I an atheist? A transvestite? A Christian? You will never know. That's the way it should be in a game such as DAoC.
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Ever talk about you girlfriend, boyfriend, or whatever in chat... When you get to know people in the game real life becomes apart of it. I think all that is being asked for here is a friendly level playing field.
I have seen to many chats where anit-gay comments are thrown around without thought. It's not nice and it's not cool.
We came to play, lets remember that.
I have seen to many chats where anit-gay comments are thrown around without thought. It's not nice and it's not cool.
We came to play, lets remember that.
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