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RVR - unbalanced , dull and pointlessFollow

#1 Aug 20 2004 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
There needs to be some balance in RVR - and the only way you will get it is to make mezmerize spells not work on players , and cut bard speed to half what it is now, and nerf stealth in RVR.

At the moment RVR consists of full groups with bard classes running round wiping everyone in the zone.

With a 50 ranger with 99-100% quality spell crafted equipment its impossible for me to kill anyone except enemy archers in the frontiers now solo.

They have mez = they win automatically.

They have engage = they win automatically.

They are assassin class = they can see me but not the other way round after my first shot of the day (lose camo).

And don't tell me to switch class - I am not wasting my time levelling another character to 50 - one takes long enough and is mind-numbingly dull enough. Nor do I want to play a different class - I like archer classes.

At the moment there is no class balance, its almost impossible to get an RVR group for more than 10 mins if you're not a tank,a bard or a healer/buffer/rezzer and its impossible to solo.

If it doesnt change Camelot will keep on losing players.



#2 Aug 20 2004 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
there are spells to counter act bards mez. You just have to know how to use them, and have the right class in your group. Quit whinning.
#3 Aug 20 2004 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
No I won't 'quit whining' (it has one 'n' btw - try buying a dictionary if you have trouble with spelling). If you're going to reply make a real point - don't throw dumb insults.

Mez makes RVR dull as hell. 9 times out of 10 non-stealthers dont want stealthers in their RVR group - and in a stealther group no-one has spells to counter-act mez.

There is meant to be class balance. There is zero class balance between classes with mez and classes without it.

Edited, Fri Aug 20 13:43:51 2004 by Anyway
#4 Aug 20 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
not true. i may not be 50th, but have been in the big boys RvR several times.

Mez is part of the game. all 3 realms HAVE IT. it is not a big deal.

as for bard speed, again all 3 realms have some form of speed boost.. again it is not a big deal.

nothing is tremendously out ballanced.

RvR zones (frontiers) are not desiged to SOLO in, they are designed for grouping. thus the MM on the MMORPG mm = multivly massive in other words MORE PEOPLE playing then just a small handfull.

for solo, get out of the frontiers and go solo in the 'safe' zones. for RvR get in a group and deal with it.
#5 Aug 25 2004 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
I have mixed feelings on this, as I also have a level 39 hunter. Ever since I've played him, he's gimp. Fact of life, and nothing I can do about it. So I don't play him. He's too slow and only good for playing the "long distance" game. Yawn.

However, I chose to play him, and the game hasn't changed his "gimpedness" over the last year.... he's always been this way. I can only be responsible for choosing to roll a hunter.

I don't have a solution for you.... just wanted to express my agreement with you. The only thing I like about the archer classes is that they are easy RP's for my Shadowblade.

#6 Aug 25 2004 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
LoL it is fine and I know it is...I may only have a 24 scout but he never gets mezzed or watsoever and ive been in NF with other scouts with my pali and they are very good defending the keeps and i see them killin people all the time. Plus a guy in my guild has a lvl 50 scout and he has 180,000 rps with his scout he doesnt seem to have a problem - Sorry to say you just probably suck and dont know how to play your scout right if your having sooo many problems.
#7 Aug 26 2004 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
I'm with anyway, 41 eldritch and i can't do **** w/o being 1 shotted by something. Once I get one spell off, an enemy fire wizzie 1 shots me, 1k+ dmg, so fun. or an inf sneaks up on me (they always go for casters first) and 1 shots me. The realms are unbalanced, and if you don't think so, look at Gawaine, people know Albion is stronger. Hibernia is 20% of the population of the server, have you ever done RvR when you're outnumbered 3 to 1 AND they have stronger classes than you? I've stunned people, got 3 shots off, stun wears off they get 1 shot and kill me. It's a joke.


(yes i'm not lvl 50 and yes I don't have a million artis from ToA, but you shouldn't need those to do decently in RvR)
#8 Aug 26 2004 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
Yes! Artis help so very much. Between the player crafted armor and the artis it brings your character full circle. If your having problems with being one shotted or need something to help ward your mind look into player crafted armor. If your out there in gimp gear thats gimping your character.. its your own damn fault. Dont RvR until you have your character fit to put up a fight.
#9 Aug 30 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
I'm curious as to what class Queeny plays. Just curious. That's all.
#10 Aug 30 2004 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
he plays some sort of caster, thats all i know :p
#11 Aug 30 2004 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
She plays a Fire Wizard.
#12 Sep 01 2004 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks!


NEW QUESTION!!!!

What server does she play on?

Edited, Wed Sep 1 19:12:24 2004 by Azrailis
#13 Sep 09 2004 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
I know, you ranged attack people have it so rough. Let me give you rvr from an armsman perspective. If you decide to solo you may do well if you actually find another soloing player confident enough to fight you, which proabably won't happen. If you do find a soloing player confident enough to fight you it is probably an overpowered ******* bonedancer. However, what will most likely happen is you will run into a group of enemies, at which point you will be mezzed and poisoned, then shot with about 500 fireballs/arrows and probably finished off by some fribolg/troll chronie.

So obviously grouping is the answer! So you join your group and head off to battle with a few other groups. Your group will then meet an enemy group of roughly the same size and stop about 80 feet from it to exchange spells and arrows. Now if, heaven forbid, you actually try to attack the other group in melee you will be mezzed and poisoned, then shot with about 500 fireballs/arrows and probably finished off by some fribolg/troll chronie. So you just have to sit around with your **** in your hand waiting for your team to get the upper hand. When your spellcasters finally route the enemy with some sort of advantage, you can then charge in and finish off the fleeing/mezzed opponents that are clearly already defeated (not that you had anything to do with it).

If that doesn't happen then the reverse will, where you have the option to either run or try in futility to defend your position, at which point you will be mezzed and poisoned, then shot with about 500 fireballs/arrows and probably finished off by some fribolg/troll chronie.
#14 Sep 09 2004 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah, RvR has changed a lot since NF came out. Tanks have become siege bots (carry more wood please, drop the ram... run this treb). Inc more FOTM archers. I'm a scout, so i love NF haha.
#15 Sep 09 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
Quit your ******* ******** you dumb ***. First off, its NF thats the only problem w/ daoc. Thats all, you wouldnt see archers if it werent for nf. And spec 50 shield tank can block alot of the arrows shot if he has nice dex. SC or not. And if you have a problem with mez, buy purge. But to those of you who get 1 shotted by rangers, scouts, or hunters- you wanna know what your problem is why u get pwned by em? One, you wear cloth armor. Two. You dont have much hp at all, and at lvl 50 its easy to cap all your stats since we have toa now. Including dex, int, constitution, empathy, or charisma if u mez. Its not all that hard. My advice to you is if your gonna ***** about any classes being nerfed, make it the BD and the reaver. Leviathon needs nerf really bad. Post this on the VN boards, maybe mythic will respond to it. Thats the only board they do respond to. Now go farm and buy sum nice gear so you dont get pwned by archers all the time. Plus every realm has PBT. which is a disadvantage to archers, except penetrate bubble and rapid fire. QQ more.
#16 Sep 09 2004 at 2:28 PM Rating: Default
Quit your ******* ******** you dumb ***. First off, its NF thats the only problem w/ daoc. Thats all, you wouldnt see archers if it werent for nf. And spec 50 shield tank can block alot of the arrows shot if he has nice dex. SC or not. And if you have a problem with mez, buy purge. But to those of you who get 1 shotted by rangers, scouts, or hunters- you wanna know what your problem is why u get pwned by em? One, you wear cloth armor. Two. You dont have much hp at all, and at lvl 50 its easy to cap all your stats since we have toa now. Including dex, int, constitution, empathy, or charisma if u mez. Its not all that hard. My advice to you is if your gonna ***** about any classes being nerfed, make it the BD and the reaver. Leviathon needs nerf really bad. Post this on the VN boards, maybe mythic will respond to it. Thats the only board they do respond to. Now go farm and buy sum nice gear so you dont get pwned by archers all the time. Plus every realm has PBT. which is a disadvantage to archers, except penetrate bubble and rapid fire. QQ more.
#17 Sep 09 2004 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
She plays on lancelot. http://www.freewebs.com/haleis/
#18 Sep 10 2004 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Ahh, ok thanks. Was looking for her on the herald, didn't find her.
#19 Sep 10 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Default
Why are you looking for me?? /stalker???
#20 Sep 11 2004 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
Totally. I'm rolling on your server just so i can bug you. haha j/k.


I was just curious was all. I like to see who plays who and how they fare on their respective servers as far as ML's and rps.

You need more rps, imo.

Edited, Sat Sep 11 20:52:19 2004 by Azrailis
#21 Sep 11 2004 at 8:17 PM Rating: Default
Pfft.. tell that to the hibbies that run away from my eliteness. We camp PoC all the time.
#22 Sep 11 2004 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
Bah, any noobie joe schmo can go camp the entrance to POC. I wish they allowed us to /charcopy onto other servers... I'm interested in seeing how my boys and gals stack up to others.

You have all the relics too, don't you? My realm only has 2 str. relics on alb/bed. So I make my 30-80k rps a week against tougher odds. ;) I'm just playin with ya though, so don't get all offended like I'm flamin ya or somethin.
#23 Sep 12 2004 at 1:00 AM Rating: Default
lol no actualy mid or hib is usually kickin our asses in relics. Mids had DF for the past couple weeks, before that hibs.
#24 Sep 12 2004 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
"Pfft.. tell that to the hibbies that run away from my eliteness. We camp PoC all the time."

lol, this strikes me as funny, if i saw a rr2 warder camping PoC i'd definitely be afraid ;). eliteness doesn't start til at least rr6, imo.. heck even I still have a ways to go. ;)

I keed i keed.
#25 Sep 12 2004 at 9:17 PM Rating: Default
Nice avatar! lol you dont have to be rr6 to camp the door. Just have to be speedy on the button.
#26 Sep 13 2004 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
That's me!

Yah, spamming one button definitely takes eliteness and skill ;).

you're fun, queeny.

you still need more rps, imo.
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