Killua125 wrote:
I didn't say that, but for some people, every dollar counts, every dollar is budgeted and matters.
If you don't care whether the game is $10, $15, or $18, I can see why you would be totally fine with a subscription model over a free-to-play model.
For some people, the difference between free and subscription is a big deal to them (whether they're short on money or simply frugal; don't be judgemental), and the option to pay as much as you want versus a forced flat fee may be the deciding factor in whether they gave this game a moment of their time.
Edited, Apr 1st 2013 11:58am by Killua125
That I can understand. I have a friend who has a huge family and they all have to work, and to pay for Tera, he did that buy playtime token with in game funds, that someone else paid for. Which is how I found out it existed to begin with. Which is why the only free to play model I (opinion) would be somewhat OK with is that. It's not perfect, and those who chose not to buy tokens for other people will suffer. Catering to people who can't afford stuff, that's an interesting market.
That being said, the F2P has nothing to do with people's financial struggles. It's about exploiting people's spending habits. I don't believe for a second they are in business to let people enjoy their work for free, because they're going through hard times. No one is judging the the people, sir. A person who's frugal wont spend money on anything anyway. A person who's financially burdened is tempted to spend money they shouldn't be spending. Very sinister indeed.
P.S.
That friend got a better job 3 months ago, so he just finished building his PC for FFXIV because he's excited for it.
KaneKitty wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
... for some people, every dollar counts, every dollar is budgeted and matters.
If that's someone's situation, he or she should be investing money in better ways than MMORPGs (and a computer on which to play them). >_>
Exactly, which is why he *the friend* quit playing FFXIV. The game wan't worth his money just yet, but apparently ARR does. So it's a good thing he sought better means to fund his entertainment.
Killua125 wrote:
Thayos wrote:
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I'm just making the point that some people are frugal/careful about how they spend their money... that doesn't make them poor, it makes them smart.
How does only playing games that are free make you smarter than someone who pays to play a different game? Or am I missing something?
I didn't say that. I have paid plenty of subscriptions (for MMORPGs and other services) over the years.
I think someone who makes sure something is up to par and worth their money before spending is smart, though.
So far I'm not sure if ARR is worth a subscription versus free-to-play, but I'm reserving judgement until the later phases of the beta and stuff.
lolgaxe wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Final Fantasy would not be my entire entertainment budget.
Too expensive? Maybe buckle down, work hard, and your boss at McDonalds will notice and give you a raise.
I don't work at McDonalds, and I would say that your posts are unnecessarily vile. I guess your monthly subscription here just gives you license to be an @#%^ with no repercussions, and I don't want to be a member of a "pay-to-troll" forum model.
You claim to champion the frugal, the poor, but in the end, it's always been your lack of interest in the FFXIV ARR product. I don't think you should spend your money on it either. It's not for you, just accept it and move on. I don't think it should be free so you can torture yourself with something that doesn't satisfy you. Seek pleasure elsewhere. It's for your own 'happyness.'
Edited, Apr 1st 2013 8:14pm by GDLYL