Sneak Peak at Phase 3 BetaFollow

Grass has its own slider under the benchmark and in the (NDA). I see no reason why they'd remove that from the official release.

Going to have to agree with electromagnet on this one. I don't give a **** about minor graphical "imperfections" like the grass (didn't bother me in the slightest, personally), but if you're going to suggest that people exercise the restraint to not share their criticism about something they don't like, perhaps you start by doing the same. He's sharing his opinion about the grass, which is in FFXIV-related opinion that belongs on an FFXIV forum. Some of you are sharing your opinion about his posting habits, which is really nothing but bickering. You can offer your counterpoint on why the grass is fine without complaining about people who complain.

Honestly I'm a little tired of people jumping down Killua's throat, when at least that I've seen, his criticisms have been measured and fair, and he's been perfectly respectful about them. He's even been pretty good about disengaging when people are clearly instigating.

You disagree? Fine. Disagree back. That's how we have conversation. That's what keeps the forum alive. We don't need to complain that someone has different opinions than ours.

Look the grass looks bad you know it we know it.

The people that complain about killua are doing so because they are "tired" and what do i mean with that. Killua seems that has undertaken a quest to find all the things he believe as wrong and problematic in the game and point them out one after another again and again. He sometimes also makes threads that to someone that haven't read his previous post would seem normal but if someone did read the others will understand that they are made again in an effort to undermine the game. I can bring examples of this like the "star wars vs ARR" thread or the one about if "ARR is too expensive".

That is ok of course and he is in titled to have his own opinion for the game and normally i would say that he would do a nice job if his effort was to show this problems so that they can be fixed.That is not the case though. I too agree that the grass is sh*tty in that screenshot (not that i care but anyway) but the way he said it and with his post history its hard for most people to not attack him.

And another thing is i have seen killua saying a good thing for the game like once or twice and then all of his posts are full of problems and whatnot of the game. Reading some of his posts someone would think this game would go down before it even launch. So i can't say that killua is objective since he only shows hate for the game.

So yea i do not normally attack to a person directly so if i done it i apologize but as killua has opinions i too have so again excuse me. :)


Sorry for the off topic.

Edited, May 7th 2013 3:29pm by Teravibe

Well i can agree with that i guess.

And to bring this back to the topic of the OP. Three new Beta phase 3 screenshots have been posted on FB

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/464097_10151641379925871_1498244965_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/919025_10151641379920871_25052588_o.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/459852_10151641379935871_2085760482_o.jpg

lol -.-

I literally laughed out loud ready that. I'm surprised the discussion of grass has been this lengthy. And yea I like how they are providing more screenshots while we wait for phase 3 :)

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What I bolded is the problem with his post, at least to me. It's the pointless exaggeration that annoys me. So you're saying this looks like this? Really? I agree the grass isn't brilliant, but come on, comparing it to the SNES was just a flat out troll comment used to incite people into responding... and it worked.

Back on topic, the screens all look very nice. I'm looking forward to playing the beta, perfectly modeled and shaded grass or no.

Point proved. I know this is going to be hard for some, if not everyone. But look at the screen by Killua (or the one by me) and look at that one you just posted. Take out of context ALL the other stuff except the grass. If you can manage to do that, you'll realize that the tall grass itself looks very, very similar in the two games as far as resolution is concerned. There's just more of it in the more modern game.

edit: Also, it's hard to digest my comparison because the one screen is far away from the grass and the FFXI screen is RIGHT up on it. Trust me when I say that in Gridania, I've looked up close....it's pretty brutal.

Edited, May 8th 2013 4:07pm by electromagnet83

Uh, you can do the exact same thing with the screenshot of XIII-2 you showed and make a similar argument. The grass isn't anything special in that screenshot, there's just more of it and it has 1 more level of anti-aliasing on it. It still doesn't look like grass, it looks like a bunch of stalks of slightly different colored green stuff stuck onto a field. Up close, it still looks pretty bad, just not as bad as FFXIV grass, but that's to be expected when comparing a game that can have 100's of people traversing a small section and needs to be optimized vs. a 1 player game. You're grasping at straws, no pun intended.

Well, since you're first comparison was to the SNES, at least you're making progress. But no, the grass in FFXI is considerably worse than FFXIV, though neither is very good.