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Yet weirdly they all have protect on. So the Thm is healing, big deal. They have a healer. I'll be damned if he ain't main healing with some spells inbetween, which is exactly how Con does it.

Show me an all-melee picture and I'll be impressed.

I bet you it would be easy Also you would not be wasting your time, you would be beta testing the game, you know we would be testing weather or not the game was actually working as intended.... But i know i know, deep down you know i am right, so why actually go and see for yourself

That has more to do with lack of proper MND stacking than anything else. You want to make your heals effective, stack MND.

Some reference for you:




The 20% Penalty on Curing while active is overwpowered by the MND differential, making THM a possible healer candidate for early game.

Additionally, it's also QUITE possible for THM metagame the system by stacking the sh*t out of MND and abusing this skill, being able to swap between a powerful healer and a powerful damage dealer at will. This is why cure spell availability is limited.

Death in the early dungeons? It's possible, especially if you're inexperienced at MMOs or are inexperienced at the dungeons themselves. You flatly insulting players who are learning the ropes or are suffering difficulties is once again showing your antagonistic side, Ostia.

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 10:57am by Hyrist

But Lou, why would Lord Ostia ever grace you with his presence in game for a dungeon run? After all, he's perfect and why would he ever want to play with a 'bad' player?

Speaking seriously, these fights have scaling difficulty depending on your setup. You can mock-up roles if you've got the appropriate classes. I did Copperbell without a healer or a tank - though we wiped twice and we won only because I was able to pull off a last-second limit break.

I wouldn't call these beginner dungeons too easy as they've got more objective sense in them than most other dungeons I've seen this low level on any other MMO.

Were you in that group with me where I was main healing the first dungeon as a GLA with cure and protect, Bartel? I dont remember lol, but yeah I can assure you.... it wasn't easy at all. We actually had to take a run at the last boss like 3 or 4 times before we finally brought him down xD

As far as Cure being nerfed on GLA, this is perhaps true at the early levels (same for any other class I'd imagine), but at lvl 30+ which is where my GLA currently is, those cures become alot more potent and definetely life saving, especially for those 30+ FATEs I find myself doing all the time. It might be due to my gear, or natural MND increase... the latter kinda makes sense, since GLA turns into PLD, but as of now, a single cure of mine heals for about 95-100ish (More if I have the Convalesence skill active). Not as Potent as CNJ or perhaps even THM to be sure, but at that level, my natural defense stat, along with abilties like Rampart and Foresight, cause normal dungeon mobs to hit me for around 60-80ish. Only problem I have sometimes is my MP draining too fast (Riot Blade helps I suppose, just wish it wasn't on GCD xD).

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 11:45am by Swiftskye

And if you get slaughtered?

It's because the rest of the group are bad players... not Ostia though, just everyone else.

And no, you aren't convincing me to run those dungeons without a healer. I'd rather be productive and focus my efforts on testing out crafting, gathering, higher-level FATEs, checking out other job mechanics, etc etc.



Yep, that was me. As far as gla, I can see that making sense. Once you level up some and increase your MND stat, it will certainly help a lot. I'd still put it third fiddle behind con and thm though. But yeah, if it's healing close to 100 a pop... combine that with a thm cure-bombing, and you just effectively gave yourself a healer without filling the role. It's still considerably more convenient to do the runs with a con, and I bet that they didn't one-shot those dungeons without a healer.

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 12:07pm by BartelX

What are this other job mechanics ? There are such things

I agree since my experience was similar. We were a LNC, MRD and 2 ARC. We didn't have any real problems until the final boss battle, and we wiped four times. I was actually getting frustrated with our team telling them that without a healer this was imposible. Since we were unorganized during the final battle, we had to take some time to develop an strategy which ultimately worked. I admit though that the MRD had Cure, but he was the only one healing source we had, so we really had to put attention in what we were doing. We succeeded in our fifth run.

Except from Tam Tara (which I personally find it to be the easiest of all), I have died in every dungeon so far at least one time (specially during boss encounters where you dont really know what to do) but once you know what to do (and if your group does as well), dungeons do become repetitive and easy. I only played WoW as a Paladin until level 65, but I feel the dungeons I did in WoW and the ones I am making in FFXIV:ARR Beta have that in common, specially once you get the hang of your class/job and get familiar with your abilities. However, as someone also suggested above, it could be really nice if they add a "hard mode" for dungeons, like the way you chose the level of guildleves. Thus, by adjusting mob difficulty and giving less time to finish the dungeon, experimented players could have have a good run. And to further encourage players to make them on hard more, they could give better loot and experince which would be nice as well :)

What are this other language? Of the English speak you no?



I hear wearing glasses or contacts and not trying to play it on a TI-86 calculator helps.

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 10:56pm by Viertel

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1. I blame sixstroke for this thread, as usual. (He only made the OP comment no more, as well as the same post in the beta forums)
2. I lol at people who compare these first few dungeons to all of the wow dungeons.
3. LOL at people talking about difficulty when we can't even go past level 35 in the "BETA"
4. Duo is wild....
5. Ostio or however you spell it is wild...
6. Sixstrokes' six post on the beta forums were very insightful...
7. Everyone else is cool, and I hate that they made you take this much time out your day to respond to these stupid statements... ....
8. LMAO at the man who wants to level multiple level 50 jobs in a month, and feel its to time consuming or hard to do otherwise... wait ... is he admitting its hard?
9. There is no 9th statement, but I felt like making one, but I'm tired.