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TwistedOwl wrote:
svlyons wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
My first RPG was Zelda...
I'm not sure if I would count Zelda as an RPG. While Link's HP grew and you gained new tools and equipment over the course of the game, I don't know if that's enough to call it an RPG. After all, even a game like Metal Gear Solid had that, and I don't think anyone would call MGS an RPG.
I've seen some interesting definitions of what an RPG is from various people. Going with some of these definitions NBA 2k13 My Player mode is a sports RPG. Create your player, earn skill points, increase attributes, purchase gear with stat boosts, etc.
True. It evolved from D&D to PC Text Adventures and then folks got smart and realized that pictures would draw a larger crowd. The JRPG didn't hit American shores in mainstream until the mid 80s, if I recall. And while the JRPG defines what most today recognize as an "RPG," the genre of "role playing" is actually quite diverse. I used to spend nights building every member of my high school football team in Madden. That was role playing if I ever saw it.
Valkayree wrote:
True. It evolved from D&D to PC Text Adventures and then folks got smart and realized that pictures would draw a larger crowd. The JRPG didn't hit American shores in mainstream until the mid 80s, if I recall. And while the JRPG defines what most today recognize as an "RPG," the genre of "role playing" is actually quite diverse. I used to spend nights building every member of my high school football team in Madden. That was role playing if I ever saw it.
Back then "JRPG" hadn't really evolved yet. Early FFs and DWs were heavily influenced by western RPGs (the only ones around) with a higher emphasis on story telling. They were a lot more accessible to us kids though, due to them being developed for the NES and not the PC, as most western RPGs were.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 12:30pm by ScrapTower
ScrapTower wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
True. It evolved from D&D to PC Text Adventures and then folks got smart and realized that pictures would draw a larger crowd. The JRPG didn't hit American shores in mainstream until the mid 80s, if I recall. And while the JRPG defines what most today recognize as an "RPG," the genre of "role playing" is actually quite diverse. I used to spend nights building every member of my high school football team in Madden. That was role playing if I ever saw it.
Back then "JRPG" hadn't really evolved yet. Early FFs and DWs were heavily influenced by western RPGs (the only ones around) with a higher emphasis on story telling. They were a lot more accessible to us kids though, due to them being developed for the NES and not the PC, as most western RPGs were.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 12:30pm by ScrapTower
In the early to mid 80's you had dungeon crawls, text based adventures and Ultima. First JRPGs in 1982-84.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_role-playing_video_games:_1974_to_1985
Yep, DW & FF were heavily influenced by Ultima. Ultima influenced by Wizardry etc. All western. By that list I count 28 western "RPGs" before the first JP which is way more than I had originally thought. When you start to break away from your standard D&D classes and start to introduce things like magitech and gunblades, that's when you have a true "JRPG".
I don't agree with that is all. When I think RPG I think D&D, Everquest, Ultima, Elder Scrolls.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 2:50pm by ScrapTower
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And while the JRPG defines what most today recognize as an "RPG," the genre of "role playing" is actually quite diverse.
I don't agree with that is all. When I think RPG I think D&D, Everquest, Ultima, Elder Scrolls.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 2:50pm by ScrapTower
ScrapTower wrote:
Yep, DW & FF were heavily influenced by Ultima. Ultima influenced by Wizardry etc. All western. By that list I count 28 western "RPGs" before the first JP which is way more than I had originally thought. When you start to break away from your standard D&D classes and start to introduce things like magitech and gunblades, that's when you have a true "JRPG".
I don't agree with that is all. When I think RPG I think D&D, Everquest, Ultima, Elder Scrolls.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 2:50pm by ScrapTower
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And while the JRPG defines what most today recognize as an "RPG," the genre of "role playing" is actually quite diverse.
I don't agree with that is all. When I think RPG I think D&D, Everquest, Ultima, Elder Scrolls.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 2:50pm by ScrapTower
I see. I always get myself in trouble when I overgeneralize. Perhaps I should have said "the JRPG defines what most today recognize as a classic console RPG."
I personally consider classic console RPGs to be rooted in JRPG formats (those four sprites caterpillaring on an overworld map transitioning into the east vs west battle style), but considering that the overworld concept was likely inspired by Ultima on PC, even the JRPG is not distinctly "J".
I agree that D&D, Everquest, Ultima, Elder Scrolls are all great RPGs. It is easy to forget that the RPG itself is widely defined. When people hear "sports" they think of Football, Soccer, Basketball, and Baseball, we often forget that somewhere out there someone thinks that Cardboard Tube Dueling is a sport. http://list25.com/the-25-most-obscure-sports-in-the-world/
Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 3:09pm by Valkayree
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