If you had between $2000-3000 to spend on a new computer to maximize your playing experience on Everyquest 2, what motherboard, RAM, power supply, video card, cooling fans, etc. would you put inside?
A lot of people talk about upgrading their current systems, but what about starting from scratch? I'm sure there is a lot of different opinions out there and I'm interested in hearing them all.
When I play Everquest 2, I don't want to just meet the system requirments and have to turn off most of the graphics options, like I had to do for Everquest, I want to maximize my gaming experience.
If any of you have "friends" who are beta testing it right now, how is your current system working for you and have you had to play at a lower setting for optimum performance?
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Has anyone ever purchased a computer from Velocity Micro or known somebody who has? My friend's company back in San Diego just upgraded their servers and computers and ordered through them, she has nothing but great things to say and Maximum PC gave one of their computers a 9 out of 10 in their June 2004 issue, but I'm looking for a gamer's perspective.
Here is one of their top of the line Gaming Systems, the Velocity Raptor Extreme Edition, how do you think this computer will perform playing Everquest 2 and what, if anything, would you change? If you had to drop the price under $3000, what components would you replace to save money, but minimize performance drop?
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=18
Maximum PC Review
http://www.maximumpc.com/reviews/systems/review_2004-05-18.html
Thank you in advance, to everyone who replies, your advice is appreciated.
Kallirye
Here is one of their top of the line Gaming Systems, the Velocity Raptor Extreme Edition, how do you think this computer will perform playing Everquest 2 and what, if anything, would you change? If you had to drop the price under $3000, what components would you replace to save money, but minimize performance drop?
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=18
Maximum PC Review
http://www.maximumpc.com/reviews/systems/review_2004-05-18.html
Thank you in advance, to everyone who replies, your advice is appreciated.
Kallirye
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The high end power to run eq2 at its fullest could be expensive. Stated in an article about several months ago in a PCGAMER magazine the designers mentioned there isn't a computer that will run eq2 at the highest settings. Eq2 was definetely designed to outlast a number of future hardware upgrades.
I'm starting to believe this as i tested for 2 weeks. I'm running an Athlon 64 3400 with radeon pro 9800, and at best gameplay i settled for low-mid graphic options. This is beta though and each patch release the sluggishness wiht multiple npc's and load times have improved.
These issues will need to be perfected though by release date or there could be mass returns. I can't forsee people with minimum requirements spending a grand to make a game playable, unless of course they're eq diehards.
As for computer shopping, its best to buy high end parts off the internet and have the system built. When I built mine I compared to top gaming Alienwares and just bought the same parts, saving over $1000 when complete.
I'm starting to believe this as i tested for 2 weeks. I'm running an Athlon 64 3400 with radeon pro 9800, and at best gameplay i settled for low-mid graphic options. This is beta though and each patch release the sluggishness wiht multiple npc's and load times have improved.
These issues will need to be perfected though by release date or there could be mass returns. I can't forsee people with minimum requirements spending a grand to make a game playable, unless of course they're eq diehards.
As for computer shopping, its best to buy high end parts off the internet and have the system built. When I built mine I compared to top gaming Alienwares and just bought the same parts, saving over $1000 when complete.
We shall see, I just recently finished putting my new system together, has an Athlon 64 FX-53, eVGA GeForce4 6800 Ultra, 1gB of matched ram, and a Audgiy 2 platinum. I scored 5085 3Dmarks in 3DMark05 and I think the highest is somehere in the 8k and thats the massively overclocked refrigrated systems that run in the 7k to 10k price range, and I havnt bothered to overclock yet either nor will I unless i feel the need to do so. But one major new hardware release is Alienware's SLI technology ... hmm 2x 6800 Ultras... gotta be nice... too bad i dont have the 8,000 dollars for the system...
I just read your post today, if u still havent gotten a new comp then I might be able to advise u. but I need more info. My work is to build computers. buisness and gaming comps.
but as i said i need a little more info. so contact me at the_vivic@hotmail.com
but as i said i need a little more info. so contact me at the_vivic@hotmail.com
My main box is a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4
3GB RAM
and I recently upgraded to a Radeon X800 (256MB)
...lets see EQ2 stress that!
3GB RAM
and I recently upgraded to a Radeon X800 (256MB)
...lets see EQ2 stress that!
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My main box is a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4
3GB RAM
and I recently upgraded to a Radeon X800 (256MB)
...lets see EQ2 stress that!
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Sorry to say, but your system still won't be able to handle the game properly with max settings :)
No worries though, as this is a planned thing, as many people can tell you. They intended for the max settings to be geared for the PCs of the next couple of years, not the PCs out there right now.
My main box is a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4
3GB RAM
and I recently upgraded to a Radeon X800 (256MB)
...lets see EQ2 stress that!
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Sorry to say, but your system still won't be able to handle the game properly with max settings :)
No worries though, as this is a planned thing, as many people can tell you. They intended for the max settings to be geared for the PCs of the next couple of years, not the PCs out there right now.
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Would this be enough?
My computer's a...
AMD Athlon 2600+ (~2.1GHz, overclocked it should be ~2.4GHz)
GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB with AGP 8x (it's better than most of the FX 5000's look here)
1GB DDR Corsair (2x512MB) (333MHz..?)
and an A7V8X-X ASUS MoBo (here's the link)
120GB WD (7,200RPM I believe.)
Just tell me what you think.
Edited, Sat Nov 6 11:20:25 2004 by EQDance
My computer's a...
AMD Athlon 2600+ (~2.1GHz, overclocked it should be ~2.4GHz)
GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB with AGP 8x (it's better than most of the FX 5000's look here)
1GB DDR Corsair (2x512MB) (333MHz..?)
and an A7V8X-X ASUS MoBo (here's the link)
120GB WD (7,200RPM I believe.)
Just tell me what you think.
Edited, Sat Nov 6 11:20:25 2004 by EQDance
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double post =x
Edited, Sat Nov 6 11:19:21 2004 by EQDance
Edited, Sat Nov 6 11:19:21 2004 by EQDance
EQDance,
I am going to restate what cilikosis and novak said. EQ2 is designed to for top of the line systems that will be out in a few years. That way the life span of the game is expanded.
I am going to restate what cilikosis and novak said. EQ2 is designed to for top of the line systems that will be out in a few years. That way the life span of the game is expanded.
Voelfgar Fireforge
105 Beserker
Mangler
105 Beserker
Mangler
I know this is posted before and read to the fullest I'm wondering though if I can atleast run EQII on a medium quality graphics setting with
Nvida Geforce FX 5200
Pentium 4 3.0ghz
2gigs of ram
Nvida Geforce FX 5200
Pentium 4 3.0ghz
2gigs of ram
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Your fx5200 is a massive bottle-neck to what is otherwise a really good system. The fx5200 is one of the worst performing video cards out there. You would need to upgrade to a better video card to play at medium settings.
9 posts
I can't say for sure how your system will run it, but I'll let you know how mine did and you can draw your own conclusions.
Athlon 2800+
1 Gig ram
ATI 9800 Pro 128meg
With this system I could run with all settings at medium, but I would occasionally have low fps encounters when to many mobs showed up. I set some of the texture settings to low (not minimal) and reduced some of the water effects and everything ran great. The game was still beautiful, if not quite as jaw dropping.
Athlon 2800+
1 Gig ram
ATI 9800 Pro 128meg
With this system I could run with all settings at medium, but I would occasionally have low fps encounters when to many mobs showed up. I set some of the texture settings to low (not minimal) and reduced some of the water effects and everything ran great. The game was still beautiful, if not quite as jaw dropping.
11 posts
my computer im building atm costing me about $2600, amd 64fx 53 processor, asus mother board, 4gb of kingston ram, evga nvidia 6800gt video card, dual western digital sata 36gb hard drives(gonna use raid 0) with case, fans, and some other stuff it comes out around 2600, usting the cdrom and all that from my old computer so thats saving some cash, you can actually go witha p4 and save about 600 more but im pro amd cause personally i have had 3 pentiums and 3 amd's, and all the amd's are still working to this day and the pentiums are burnt up
11 posts
the harddrives are the 10krpm sata ones
6 posts
I use:
Amd Fx 53 @ 2.6 Ghz
Geforce 6800 ultra@ 450/1200
2 Gb of corsair XMS pro 2-2-2-5
2x 74 GB raptors in raid 0
It runs very well on high settings with everything turned up. Sometimes in cities it can be a bit laggy when there are alot of people around but nothing to big really.
Biscuet beta 2
Amd Fx 53 @ 2.6 Ghz
Geforce 6800 ultra@ 450/1200
2 Gb of corsair XMS pro 2-2-2-5
2x 74 GB raptors in raid 0
It runs very well on high settings with everything turned up. Sometimes in cities it can be a bit laggy when there are alot of people around but nothing to big really.
Biscuet beta 2
13 posts
I'm running:
Asus 800 FSB (hyper-thread able)
3.2gig Pentium 4 with hyper-thread tech.
1028MB 400FSB DDR
ATI 9800pro (128MB)
2 74Gig Serial ATA Raptors (Raid 0)
SB Audigy
I'm not in beta even though I tried as soon as they put that e-mail out but...I highly doubt I'll have to run EQ2 any where near lowest setting, but any near highest either, this was put out way in advance in various press releases I believe.
Asus 800 FSB (hyper-thread able)
3.2gig Pentium 4 with hyper-thread tech.
1028MB 400FSB DDR
ATI 9800pro (128MB)
2 74Gig Serial ATA Raptors (Raid 0)
SB Audigy
I'm not in beta even though I tried as soon as they put that e-mail out but...I highly doubt I'll have to run EQ2 any where near lowest setting, but any near highest either, this was put out way in advance in various press releases I believe.
7 posts
hi all I'm new to the whole EQ thing, but ive played UO from back in the 90's, and over the last 18 months dark age of camelot. I just got a new pc for a new online game, I was deciding between EQ2 and WoW, EQ2 wins :) So hopefully now ill get to put my new machine to the test,
Athlon 64 3700+
1Gb RAM
256Mb 6800GT
300Gb HD
Soundblaster Live
lets see how it goes, plays doom3 on ultra settings no probs ;)
Athlon 64 3700+
1Gb RAM
256Mb 6800GT
300Gb HD
Soundblaster Live
lets see how it goes, plays doom3 on ultra settings no probs ;)
Scholar
42 posts
This is my system as it will be as of tomorrow, in time for launch:
Abit Fatal1ty mobo 925x chipset(very new)
P4 3.4GHZ
1 gig dual channel Corsair XMS pro memory(ddr 550)
2x WeStern Digital 74 gig RaptorS/RAID
EVGA Geforce 6800 GT 256 meg PCI Express(new)
Pioneer 108a 16x dual layer dvdr/rw +/-
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sc
19' Samsung lcd
This is the new setup. I just got the board and will be installing it this morning.
Abit Fatal1ty mobo 925x chipset(very new)
P4 3.4GHZ
1 gig dual channel Corsair XMS pro memory(ddr 550)
2x WeStern Digital 74 gig RaptorS/RAID
EVGA Geforce 6800 GT 256 meg PCI Express(new)
Pioneer 108a 16x dual layer dvdr/rw +/-
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sc
19' Samsung lcd
This is the new setup. I just got the board and will be installing it this morning.
5 posts
Honestly, you can get a system that i KNOW will run eq2 at max with good fps. Specs would be as follows:
nForce4 chipset mobo with pci-x, and dual processors
Dual athlon 64 4000+ processors.
4 gigs dual channel PC3200 corsair ram.
Dual nvidia 6800GT PCI-X video cards in SLI mode.
3Gb/s sata raid( coming out with nforce4 chipset).
i don't think anyhting in creation could lag this system, but it would cost about $5K or more. you would also probably want dual 500watt TruePower power supplies to maek sure that you could feed everything the power it needs. in an uber case with 5+ fans, cooling shouldn't be a problem. but yeah this system is kind of far fetched =P as i doubt most ppl palying could afford this.
Bhaalwolfe
nForce4 chipset mobo with pci-x, and dual processors
Dual athlon 64 4000+ processors.
4 gigs dual channel PC3200 corsair ram.
Dual nvidia 6800GT PCI-X video cards in SLI mode.
3Gb/s sata raid( coming out with nforce4 chipset).
i don't think anyhting in creation could lag this system, but it would cost about $5K or more. you would also probably want dual 500watt TruePower power supplies to maek sure that you could feed everything the power it needs. in an uber case with 5+ fans, cooling shouldn't be a problem. but yeah this system is kind of far fetched =P as i doubt most ppl palying could afford this.
Bhaalwolfe
actually eq2 would lag even top notch systems at max settings, they designed the game so that in a few years when technology advances you will be able to turn the graphics up to max and have it run smooth, so they wouldnt have to go in and redo the engine of the game.
IMO starting from scratch would be better. go with an alienware or falcon northwest PC, they are great for gaming :)
www.alienware.com
www.falcon-nw.com
IMO starting from scratch would be better. go with an alienware or falcon northwest PC, they are great for gaming :)
www.alienware.com
www.falcon-nw.com
I got a question. My friend just upgraded to the 6800 ultra and gave me his FX 5500 OC 256. Am I getting a decent upgrade or a lateral move with more memory. I currently have a FX 5200 128.
15 posts
I must mention http://www.newegg.com . They have been the best I've found for delivering individual hardware and even software peices.
Built my computer that way.
Built my computer that way.
6 posts
this is what ill be getting in mail wed just in time for eq2:
Dimension XPS
Pentium® 4 Processor 560 with HT Technology (3.60GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
Dimension XPS Pentium® 4 Processor 560 with HT Technology (3.60GHz, 800 FSB)
M368H
[221-5484]
Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz (2x1GB)
2GB5
Video Card 256MB PCI Express™ x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon™ X800 XT
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
WPXP
Network Interface Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW w/dbl layer write capability
Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy™2 ZS (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394
it fits the 2k-3k price range
Dimension XPS
Pentium® 4 Processor 560 with HT Technology (3.60GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
Dimension XPS Pentium® 4 Processor 560 with HT Technology (3.60GHz, 800 FSB)
M368H
[221-5484]
Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz (2x1GB)
2GB5
Video Card 256MB PCI Express™ x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon™ X800 XT
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
WPXP
Network Interface Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW w/dbl layer write capability
Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy™2 ZS (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394
it fits the 2k-3k price range
9 posts
Just a little hint ..Look at the " Partners " EQ2 has on thier Official site ...Nvidia , Kingston, Pentium 4 . It doesnt matter if people for whatever reasons like and use other than these " Partners ". The Developers are telling you something ..pay attention =). Did these so called partners pay for thier piece of the action ? Sure they did . But theres also something else going on that alot of people dont think about .
Guess what kind of system was used to test the game before and during beta ?? At the Sony building in San Diego ...Systems built with Nvidia, Kindston, and Pentium 4 products . I saw them with my own eyes ...enough said
Guess what kind of system was used to test the game before and during beta ?? At the Sony building in San Diego ...Systems built with Nvidia, Kindston, and Pentium 4 products . I saw them with my own eyes ...enough said
Buy everything from Newegg.com. Good prices, good service, very reliable, huge selection, and they are usually running a sweet deal that will save you some money on a few parts.
The things that really count, in order of importance are:
VIDEO CARD, CPU, Motherboard, Amount of RAM, Quality of RAM, Raid 0 configuration with decent Harddrives using Raid built INTO the Motherboard).
The above things are your house. Everything else is just decorations and furniture for the house. Case, Sound Card, Speakers, DVD drive, Monitor, etc....
This doesn't mean the other things aren't important and you shouldn't spend money on them, but they are NOT the things that can make or break your ability to play games but the first list is.
What always makes me sad is to see a pretty sweet system, 3ghz+/3000++ CPU, 1GB+ of good RAM, a solid MB, and insane sound system, massive harddrives in Raid 0, 19 inch LCD monitor, all of which cost like $1800 out of a $2000 budget.... and then a Radeon 9600XT video card...
What the Heck? That's like buying a Ferrari and then putting the most powerful V4 in the world in it. Yeah, it's a great engine, but it's still a V4, it should be in a street racing Civic or something. What the heck is it doing in a Ferrari?
Personally with $2000+ I would start (and did) by buying a 6800 Ultra or a x800XT-PE. Then I would get an Athlon 64 3500+ (which are under $300 now) and a good Abit Motherboard. Then I would get a GB of Ram and a couple harddrives (find special deals on both if possible at Newegg). Then it's pretty much a matter of spreading out your remaining budget to get the rest of the stuff you need.
The things that really count, in order of importance are:
VIDEO CARD, CPU, Motherboard, Amount of RAM, Quality of RAM, Raid 0 configuration with decent Harddrives using Raid built INTO the Motherboard).
The above things are your house. Everything else is just decorations and furniture for the house. Case, Sound Card, Speakers, DVD drive, Monitor, etc....
This doesn't mean the other things aren't important and you shouldn't spend money on them, but they are NOT the things that can make or break your ability to play games but the first list is.
What always makes me sad is to see a pretty sweet system, 3ghz+/3000++ CPU, 1GB+ of good RAM, a solid MB, and insane sound system, massive harddrives in Raid 0, 19 inch LCD monitor, all of which cost like $1800 out of a $2000 budget.... and then a Radeon 9600XT video card...
What the Heck? That's like buying a Ferrari and then putting the most powerful V4 in the world in it. Yeah, it's a great engine, but it's still a V4, it should be in a street racing Civic or something. What the heck is it doing in a Ferrari?
Personally with $2000+ I would start (and did) by buying a 6800 Ultra or a x800XT-PE. Then I would get an Athlon 64 3500+ (which are under $300 now) and a good Abit Motherboard. Then I would get a GB of Ram and a couple harddrives (find special deals on both if possible at Newegg). Then it's pretty much a matter of spreading out your remaining budget to get the rest of the stuff you need.
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