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[Video][Druid] Pericth 2 - LegacyFollow

#1 Sep 27 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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Warcraft Movies stream.

Delicious Feral Druid PvP video. Excellent editing.

Contains some Battleground action and some dueling. Comes with helpful notifications (telling the viewer what happens off-screen on roots and such).

I should probably add some more information, but really, the stream loads fairly quick and if you're interested in Feral Druid BG/1v1 PvP, it's a good video. It's the last video from Pericth as well, I think. Apparently he or she is leaving the game.

Edit: Silly triple consonant names.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 2:41am by Mazra
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#2 Sep 27 2010 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, it's alright. After watching Deep's videos though (Six Million Dollar Cat, Deep 6, Deep 5), it could be a lot better.

Too many inane comments ("dodge is great" or something similar, really?) and the 1v1 isn't very exciting.

Best part of the movie was critporn in the middle of the video, frankly.

The druid could be an 1800 druid and just put together a highlight clip of their best stuff, frankly; nothing really says "skill" in the video. No shadowmelding Lava Bursts? Cycloning when a shaman has a grounding totem down?

Don't get me wrong, it's interesting, but I just don't think that druid is that great.
#3 Sep 27 2010 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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Burst during berserk is just stupid, he cut Theed down like he was nothing and i know that player likes wearing 1400+ resi.

I think he's pretty good, the video just isn't anything like as entertaining as Deep's videos. 1800 ferals wont pay attention to stuff like cyclone on shadowfiend or using clearcast procs for lifebloom. carried by racials a little though, shadowmeld is kitty vanish.
#4 Sep 27 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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ArtemisEnteri wrote:
Burst during berserk is just stupid, he cut Theed down like he was nothing and i know that player likes wearing 1400+ resi.

I think he's pretty good, the video just isn't anything like as entertaining as Deep's videos. 1800 ferals wont pay attention to stuff like cyclone on shadowfiend or using clearcast procs for lifebloom. carried by racials a little though, shadowmeld is kitty vanish.

That's why I was disappointed with the lack of Shadowmelds during duels. I mean to avoid an auto-crit 14k Lava Burst? Worth it.

It was really disappointing to see him/her get cyclones eaten by grounding totems; a moonfire will get rid of the totem, then you can cyclone. It's one more GCD, but it's kinda worth it to get off a cyclone.
#5 Sep 28 2010 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Also, he dies somewhere in the video. I know, right?

Some people like to edit a million hours of footage into 20 minutes of "Look how perfect I am", others just take random stuff and slap together. Personally, I prefer people who don't sugarcoat it. It adds a sense of realism. And yes, not Melding to avoid Lava Bursts and such is lame and very unprofessional, and every other decent Feral Druid would have done it, because everyone knows that Feral Druids are omnipotent and ****.

Again, it's just a nice morale booster for those Feral Druids out there wondering just what the hell Blizzard was thinking when they gave us mediocre damage vs survivability in PvP. And it's the closest video that shows what I enjoy doing in Battlegrounds, namely capping and holding bases for several minutes against multiple opponent. The 1v1 is useless, as are most duels.

And finally, it was all an attempt at getting you to reveal the name of those Deep videos, Theo. Couldn't remember the name.
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#6 Sep 28 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
Also, he dies somewhere in the video. I know, right?

Again, it's just a nice morale booster for those Feral Druids out there wondering just what the hell Blizzard was thinking when they gave us mediocre damage vs survivability in PvP.

And finally, it was all an attempt at getting you to reveal the name of those Deep videos, Theo. Couldn't remember the name.

Dying doesn't bother me. I've seen other players die in PvP videos; everybody dies.

Really, feral has mediocre damage versus survivability? That explains why ferals shift out and heal, and pump out 10-15k ferocious bites, when the only way rogues do that is with envenom, which ignores armor. I was thinking about why he doesn't show duels againt other classes, but I realized that those classes are too easy to show.

I'm obviously not saying that feral is the best class in the game (paladins obviously are), but feral is one of the most powerful 1v1 classes.

And yeah, the Deep videos are great. I love Six Millioin Dollar Cat. Good stuff.
#7 Sep 28 2010 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
Really, feral has mediocre damage versus survivability? That explains why ferals shift out and heal, and pump out 10-15k ferocious bites, when the only way rogues do that is with envenom, which ignores armor.


Smiley: dubious

You should level a Druid to 80, get some PvE gear and then go crit someone actually wearing armor for 15k with Ferocious Bite. Next, go do the same on someone with 1k resilience. I'll be here when you come back.

Hint: Let's start at 6k in full PvP gear, with survivability gems and trinkets, and work our way up from there, okay?

Druids sacrifice damage for survivability. You can't get 40k health and crazy mitigation and push out 15k crits. It's not doable. You'd need close to ArP cap and 11k attack power. And then there's matter of having to blow 5 talent points on a talent that isn't useful for anything except Ferocious Bite. Yeah, no, it's not going to happen. You'd probably be able to get off one of those if you're lucky with procs, but you'd die if a PvP geared player looked at you.

The Druid's strength is its versatility. Our ability to pop in and out of combat, do some damage, leave or take up the fight in Bear Form. Apply bleeds and soak up the damage. That's why I'm running around with stamina gems in my PvE pieces and tank trinket. 15k Bites are no good if you can't survive until you get one off.

More often than not, a 5p Maim is better against healers than a 5p FB, simply because the Maim allows you to get off some Shreds. Rip is preferred against non-healers. Just Rip, Healing Touch/Regrowth and go Bear. Win.

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I'm obviously not saying that feral is the best class in the game (paladins obviously are), but feral is one of the most powerful 1v1 classes.


Yes, stealth, heals and plate armor mitigation does that, hence why 1v1 are useless.

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Mazra wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Really, feral has mediocre damage versus survivability? That explains why ferals shift out and heal, and pump out 10-15k ferocious bites, when the only way rogues do that is with envenom, which ignores armor.


Smiley: dubious

You should level a Druid to 80, get some PvE gear and then go crit someone actually wearing armor for 15k with Ferocious Bite. Next, go do the same on someone with 1k resilience. I'll be here when you come back.

My brother has an 80 druid (2k rated in S6), and he pops off FBs that while they're not quite 15k, they're definitely more than my Eviscerates. It's due to how feral AP works with FB and how rogue AP works with Evis (almost the same, making feral finishers better than rogue).

Then again, he got to 2k barely wearing PvP gear. He wore mostly the offset pieces, but wore whatever tier set was the PvE set of the season (T8 for S6, I think?) in 5/5 of his main slots. That he was playing a feral/priest team speaks highly for the amount of sruvivability that ferals have, as a rogue would very rarely wear anything but straight PvP gear in a healer comp.
#9 Sep 28 2010 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
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Rogues get much better survivability against casters though with cloak and vanishes. Druids can tank melee better, but using heals against caster damage is just a terrible idea cause you'll go oom so quickly. We tank melee and lol at them, burst casters down before they get a chance to breath. Spellcleave is horrible to play against from what i hear.

Ferals are a supreme bg and duel class though, you can go about fighting a given class in a dozen different ways. The instant cast cyclones you get after every 5 point finisher is incredible for 2v1.
#10 Sep 28 2010 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
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ArtemisEnteri wrote:
Rogues get much better survivability against casters though with cloak and vanishes. Druids can tank melee better, but using heals against caster damage is just a terrible idea cause you'll go oom so quickly. We tank melee and lol at them, burst casters down before they get a chance to breath. Spellcleave is horrible to play against from what i hear.

Ferals are a supreme bg and duel class though, you can go about fighting a given class in a dozen different ways. The instant cast cyclones you get after every 5 point finisher is incredible for 2v1.

That's kind of my point, though. Mages aren't too hard because ferals can shift out of shatters, Berserk through fears, and they can generally burst through those classes if they get set up well for it.

Obviously spellcleave is awful to play against; it's awful for almost anyone to play against. Rogues don't fare too much better (in fact probably worse) against spellcleave comps, as they at least can't shift to keep their mobility; they need to rely on cooldowns and dispels.
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