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#1 Apr 09 2007 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I finally logged into Beta this morning after dl'ing the 4 gigs and the following patch and was presented with a bit of shock- the game looks and plays like WoW almost exactly. Im sure the sucess of WoW is not new to anyone and the old adage "if it aint broke dont fix it" certainly applys but I guess I was hoping for something new and unique that would drive people away from WoW rather than make it seem like a WoW clone. I, by no means, think this game is a WoW clone but to the outsiders and common consumer it will definately appear that way. Personally I feel WoW is to accessable, kind of like the video game equivolent of Nickleback in music terms, and Im hoping LOTRO will make MMO games more like they used to be in the old EQ and UO days.
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#3 Apr 09 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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Nothing about this topic on the first page. Maybe its nothing new but Im posting my first impressions from beta and this one is very "impressionable."


Also you missed the part where I said it isnt a WoW clone in my eyes but it will be seen as one to the common consumer.


Edited, Apr 9th 2007 12:14pm by tombiggy
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#5 Apr 09 2007 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Some of the game mechanics may seem similar I agree.

But WoW was not the first to use many of these game mechanics.

Once you get past the similarity of the interface and some of the game mechanics, you'll see the game has its own unique spin.

The big draw for this game is the opportunity to be in Middle Earth. If that's not a big deal to someone, then I can see how they would think that this game is just like everything else on the market.

#6 Apr 09 2007 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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For every player that complains that LOTRO is just like WOW, there's another that complains that it's not enough like WOW.
#7 Apr 09 2007 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
TheNuckel wrote:
For every player that complains that LOTRO is just like WOW, there's another that complains that it's not enough like WOW.


This is fact...
#8 Apr 09 2007 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe we can have this thread stickied so that it is always on the first pages and any new player who decides they'd like to get the WoW comparison off their chest can come on in. lol
#9 Apr 09 2007 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I beg to differ. This game is not similar to warcraft in any way. It does not have the cartoony look or feel that warcraft has. Plus, there is no pvp aspect in the game.

Edited, Apr 9th 2007 3:19pm by fjsanchez
#10 Apr 09 2007 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
daskinnybear strikes again.

look at that amazing sentence structure, the diction, the symatry, the beautiful thesis statement, the three paragraph essay of pure unadulterated intellegence.

Whyisitthateverypersonwhopostthesethingsagainstlotrodon'teventakethetimetoconstructadecientstatmentthatisreadable?

No offense, but seriously, play the game, get out of Archet, explore a little, try playing for more than a few hours. Test out the differnt systems, and if you don't like it, go somewhere where your opinion will actually be useful to the reader.

We LIKE lotro, that's why we come onto this website, and write up in these forums. Telling us that "I don't like lotro and no one should order" is just a waste of time. Most of us have already pre-ordered.
#11 Apr 09 2007 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Too bad reading comprehension isnt popular around here.
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#12 Apr 09 2007 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
Well when WoW first came out everyone compered it to EQ and FFXI, but now that WoW has been such a success it a game most people fall back on to analyze a new MMO. But to the person that started this thread yes there are alot of things that the same as wow but also it like EQ and other mmo's to. Blizzard came up with nothing new with there game but took the best parts out of the MMO's that around when it was in development and Turbine did the same thing with LOTR. They both fun games. One is more grinding and farming and the other is more quest and story based. there more dereference too and in a year the world will be bigger than WoW to.
#13 Apr 09 2007 at 6:11 PM Rating: Default
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tombiggy wrote:
Too bad reading comprehension isnt popular around here.

Way to be a dumbass? I was going to start out with a ncie response, but you decided to be stupid and insult an entire community becasue you did not like the way a few people responded to your opinion. And if you're going to complain about other's reading comprehension you shoudl damn well form grammatically correct sentences first and not write in blocks of text.


Moving on, yes there are a lot of features similar to WoW from the ui setup to teh quest system. It is a game heavily influenced by WoW, and I don't see the probablem with that. You said you wanted something new and unique, and something similar to the old EQ and UO. New and unique usually equate to stupid and failurous. EQ and UO are terrible games with designs that will never again garner as many players as they had at their peak.

You're asking for MMOs to take a step backward in nearly every aspect except graphically.
#14 Apr 09 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I finally logged into Beta this morning after dl'ing the 4 gigs and the following patch and was presented with a bit of shock- the game looks and plays like WoW almost exactly. Im sure the sucess of WoW is not new to anyone and the old adage "if it aint broke dont fix it" certainly applys but I guess I was hoping for something new and unique that would drive people away from WoW rather than make it seem like a WoW clone.

Okay so you think it's a WoW clone.
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I, by no means, think this game is a WoW clone but to the outsiders and common consumer it will definately appear that way. Personally I feel WoW is to accessable, kind of like the video game equivolent of Nickleback in music terms, and Im hoping LOTRO will make MMO games more like they used to be in the old EQ and UO days.

Uh..what, so what do you think?

The game itself is great. The interface seems a bit more like Lineage II's interface than it does WoW's but that's just my opinion. I hate it when people compare this game to lolwow.
#15 Apr 09 2007 at 7:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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The game reminds me more of DAoC than of WoW. And if Mvp isn't pvp, then I am a blonde!
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#16 Apr 09 2007 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
The game reminds me more of DAoC than of WoW. And if Mvp isn't pvp, then I am a blonde!


Oh really?

To the OP: Insulting anyone on here isn't going to win you points with a single person.

Here are a few things to consider when comparing this to WoW:

1. The graphics are much better in LOTRO, it isn't a cartoon like I've always thought WoW to be.

2. Crafting system is a little more involved in LOTRO. After you master a tier, you get a % to crit (get more or a better quality item), plus some recipes call for special drops, which can up the % to crit rate to an almost guaranteed crit.

3. The combat system in LOTRO actually fosters team play when in a fellowship. In WoW, there are no Conjunctions, everyone just does whatever moves they want, with no timing or coordination between teammates. In LOTRO, if you aren't paying attention, you could cause the conjunction to fail, thus making the fights longer (or you lose a heal/buff, which causes you to die).

4. The classes are nowhere similar to WoW's classes. Even the same name Hunter is different in that it actually has a decent amount of close combat moves compared to the WoW Hunter.

5. Trait system. Enough said.
#17 Apr 10 2007 at 4:08 AM Rating: Good
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Holy Cow!

A MMO that follows certain features that previous MMO's had! This has never happened before!!!!!

Why based on the fact that UI and certain other features have a general resemblance to WoW I can therefore only assume that all other features of the game are derivative of WoW! I will also continue to make continual assumptions that WoW somehow innovated these features entirely because WoW was the first MMO I ever played!!!!!!!


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#18 Apr 10 2007 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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The OP indicates that he doesn't think this game is a WoW clone, but that it's similar enough that other people may think it is.

Interestingly, I've heard that same sentiment at least a dozen times in the last two days, but never once have I heard anyone say they actually thought it was one.
#20 Apr 12 2007 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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WoW is a lot of peoples' first MMORPG, and LOTRO is the next big one to come out since its release... so people are going to compare it to the only thing they know.


That's the case with me. I didn't play or even sample MMOs before WOW (and I joined that one relatively late). But I've since looked at screen shots of other, preceding MMOs and saw that WOW did not invent its own UI (and, when you think about it, that's a good thing...learn the game, not the interface).

And once you've played the beta for a few levels, and read up on what does what, it's apparent that the game is much different than WOW. In some ways better, in other ways not. So if someone like me can tell that LOTRO isn't a WOW clone...

Warhammer folks are dealing with the same static. The idea that WAR is a WOW rip-off (when it most certainly is the other way around). WOW does make a nice baseline, but developers are trying to make something better, and they have plenty of room for improvement on several fronts.
#21 Apr 12 2007 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
Even though its still in beta (I think) is the community very helpful? In WoW people were such ******
#22 Apr 12 2007 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
Its community is pretty helpful though if you have a question on a quest, please read the quest history. It pretty much tells you everything and I hate seeing the same question every 5 min.
#23 Apr 12 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Mistress Darqflame wrote:
The game reminds me more of DAoC than of WoW. And if Mvp isn't pvp, then I am a blonde!


I thought the very same thing, moreso than WoW.
#24 Apr 12 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Default
Usually when I have a question in a game it will be about mechanics or about "which button does X job" and I usually only ask fo help if it was more time efficient. Otherwise I'd just use Allakhazam.
#25 Apr 13 2007 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
All MMORPG will look alike because they are all MMORPG. Go play RTS or FPS if want something different.
#26 Apr 13 2007 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Go play RTS or FPS if want something different


Of course not if you want them to be different from each other... :P MMO's aren't the only game with "established conventions". IMHO RTS's and shooters are even more guilty of aping each other.

Start with a pistol, finish with a huge mega-gun, ammunition and guns found lying around everywhere, smash crates, find magical "Health" and Armor, run over things to loot them, kill thousands of whatever, smash more crates, kill a big huge whatever, find out you've only just begun and the real threat has yet to appear.

Did I just describe every FPS ever made?

I'm not trying to dis them, I have fun with them on occasion, but the computer games industry as a whole, heck, the entertainment business as a whole, is guilty of too much mimicing of success.
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