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#1 Apr 30 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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When I picked up the pre-order of LOTRO and installed I was greatly disappointed in the graphics. Basically I had to run my video settings at Low to play the game. For me this made the game very cheap and not worthy of picking up the retail version. So I was wondering three things?

Is the graphics on the retail version better that the pre-order Beta?

Is there any good guide/suggestions that can be applied to tweak the video settings? I currently have an ATI 9600 on a Pentium 4 2.4GHz with 1.5G of RAM.

Should I just forgo buying the game till I upgrade my system?

I want to play the game but I also want to enjoy what the game fully offers and not watch stick figures glitching across an open field.
#2 Apr 30 2007 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Go to Options -> Graphics -> Troubleshooting and lower the maximum frame rate to 30. It's set by default to be as high as possible and it doesn't need to be. My system is crappier than yours and lowering the max frame rate allowed me to raise other settings to Medium or higher and have a much nicer looking game.

Also, not that it helps if you have a clunker system, but the retail version has ultra-high res graphics. I turned them on briefly and it lagged me to hell (P4 1.8GHz, Radeon 9800, 1 gig RAM) but looked positively breath-taking. Something to look forward to whenever I upgrade my system.

Edited, Apr 30th 2007 12:54pm by Jophiel
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#3 Apr 30 2007 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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how do u turn on the ultra high res graphics?
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Under the main graphics window, you just select the ultra-high res option.

You need to have installed from the retail DVDs for it. The beta client doesn't support it.
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#5 May 01 2007 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
Hmm.. Sorry for a kind of off topic question:
I have 2 GB of RAM, a GeForce 7800 GTX 512 MB graphic card and also a dual core processor (3,2 ghz) and I can't run the game in very high. Is that normal?

I can run most of the games in max settings, but not LOTRO... Is the game badly optimized? I've tried different screen resolutions too, but I don't see a huge change.
#6 May 01 2007 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
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It would seem that to successfully run on Ultra-High settings one much have an Intel Core 2 (AMD Equivalent) system with an advanced video card. I picked up my copy of the game last night and set the FPS to 30. From there I took your suggestion and tweaked the video settings some more. The game does look better than during the Beta and makes me want to get my computer upgraded sooner so I can run the settings even higher.

The hardest thing I am running into atm is deciding what class I want to play.



Edited, May 1st 2007 8:51am by Wales
#7 May 01 2007 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
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Wales wrote:
It would seem that to successfully run on Ultra-High settings one much have an Intel Core 2 (AMD Equivalent) system with an advanced video card.


I hope you mean Core 2 Duo... because the Core 2s weren't that great, but the Core 2 Duos are BETTER then the AMD-FX line of cpus in some cases, and come up to par with them in others.

By advanced video card what do you mean out of interest? 512 Megs ram at least i'd assume.
#8 May 01 2007 at 5:27 AM Rating: Decent
I'm running the game completely maxed out on the highest settings at 1680x1050 and I've got an outdated processor.

AMD 4000 single core
EVGA 8800gts 640mb
2gb Corsair XMS DDR400

Game runs great. Even with an outdated proc and slower than typical gaming memory it runs great.


I think if the guy with the 2.4ghz system just purchased an 8800gts, even the 320mb version ($280), he'd be able to max everything out. If you decide to do so, make sure your board has pci-x slot and not just agp, and make sure your power supply will support it first!

My processor runs at 2.4ghz as well.


P.S.

The only time my framerate seems to bog at all is when I'm running around in Gondamon where there are craptons of NPC's all over the place. It's in this case that I see drops below 30's and it becomes noticable.

Edited, May 1st 2007 8:28am by WebBurner
#9 May 01 2007 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep it's a typo I forgot to put in the Duo
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Wales wrote:
I picked up my copy of the game last night and set the FPS to 30. From there I took your suggestion and tweaked the video settings some more. The game does look better than during the Beta and makes me want to get my computer upgraded sooner so I can run the settings even higher.
Glad I could help Smiley: smile

For anyone else reading, the "Let the system decide" settings are pretty low-ball and the system seems to just rank you as "Low", "Medium", etc and set everything accordingly. By setting your FPS to 30, you can make some decisions that shadows aren't that important to you but higher resolution character models are. It won't solve everything or let you play at high res on a five year old computer but it can really make a difference on a "Low" system.
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#11 May 01 2007 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I think if the guy with the 2.4ghz system just purchased an 8800gts, even the 320mb version ($280), he'd be able to max everything out. If you decide to do so, make sure your board has pci-x slot and not just agp, and make sure your power supply will support it first!


I wish but my mobo is outdated from an old Alienware install. So I have to wait till I can upgrade the whole system.
#12 May 01 2007 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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By advanced video card what do you mean out of interest? 512 Megs ram at least i'd assume.

I consider my 9600 ATI to be old and therefore any advance would be a high-end DirectX 9.0 or one of the new DirectX 10 cards.
#13 May 01 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
Just be careful with those 512mb video cards. The amount of memory on them can be misleading. My friends X800 broke down a couple years ago the day before our LAN party and he had to run out and get some card from Best Buy that he could use for the party. He chose some cheap Radeon card with 512mb memory, I think the X1300, but it absolutely sucked. He couldn't even play BF2 well with it. Ended up taking it back and getting the next step up. Even the X1600 didn't run it all too well. He then took that one back after the LAN party and ordered an X1900XTX which was top of the line back then.

A good place to check out, is the reviews on Newegg for parts that you are looking forward to getting. Especially the video cards review sections. You can get a good idea of what people are able to play and with what kind of setup.
#14 May 01 2007 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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newegg reviews are great, but also if you're looking for some in depth reviews, help, or just want to learn more about upgrading your machine then go to www.tomshardware.com
#15 May 01 2007 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Just remember, "low end" versions of brand new cards, regardless of how new, will always suck compared to the higher end versions of older cards. Now, how much difference varies with generation, but usually applies 1-2 generations.

That said, my game lags like hell, so I'll need to tweak my video settings a LOT.

My setup:
AMD Athlon XP Barton 2500 @ 2700
nVidia GeforeFX 5950GT
1gig Corsair XPS memory

I'll cap the FPS @ 30. That's way better than what I usually get inside town. Outside it's not too bad most of the time unless theres a lot of ppl around. I can't even keep names on in town. I drop to like, 2-5 FPS. It's unbareable.
#16 May 01 2007 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Wales wrote:
It would seem that to successfully run on Ultra-High settings one much have an Intel Core 2 (AMD Equivalent) system with an advanced video card.


I think it's more a function of the video card. I have a single-core Pentium 4 (3.6 GHz), 2 GB of RAM and a GeForce 7950 GT video card and can run the Ultra-high settings just fine.

Keep in mind that the downloadable beta client did not have the high-rez textures. The boxed preorder disk had the high-rez textures, and of course the retail client does as well.
#17 May 01 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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I think it's more a function of the video card. I have a single-core Pentium 4 (3.6 GHz), 2 GB of RAM and a GeForce 7950 GT video card and can run the Ultra-high settings just fine.

Your probably right. My comment is more of a hypothetical idea based off todays growing technological environment. Since I am unable to upgrade just my video card at this time I am unable to see if that could resolve my issue.
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