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#1 May 31 2007 at 4:40 PM Rating: Default
Have you played WoW? If you came from it, why did you leave it? Was there a reason you didnt want to leave?
#2 May 31 2007 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
I did I trial of WOW and even considered paying but at the time didn't have the money.

I used to play SWG a long while ago back in 04 and 05 and kinda pissed off how they ****** every thing up sence then.

#3 May 31 2007 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
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milcontwo wrote:
Have you played WoW?

yes
milcontwo wrote:
If you came from it, why did you leave it?

didnt come from it, but the game is boring as ****, horrible community, easier than nge swg, stupid people, and devs who listen to stupid people
#4 May 31 2007 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I have never had any interest in playing WOW....it is but a pale immitation of D&D....not D&D online....but D&D the pencil and paper. World of Warcrack has more noobs, posers, and lamers than any other game. You have boters and farmers and cheaters. You have kids, adults that act like kids, and Vets that are sick of the former. Clans that think they are great and spout crap and the ones that are good are over looked and ignored becaues of the former. I would rather play Evercrack or Evercrack II....not that those are any improvment. D&D Online was a joke...no PVP.....what the hell is that! How can you be evil if you can't jump other players. I think they have added since launch....but that was waaaay to late for me. Ther are other Sci Fi games, but they all would be pale immitaions of Star Wars, or at least it would be too me. I'm not even sure why this thread was put here, but it doesn't matter....WOW is everything those who come here to get away from.


Edited, Jun 1st 2007 1:14am by Azrielis
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#5 May 31 2007 at 11:17 PM Rating: Default
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this is a really pointless thread for SWG, it really belongs on a wow forum ? maybe instigator will move it when he reads it :D
#6 Jun 01 2007 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
well, i did just come from WOW. There are several reasons.
One big thing there are just sooooo many rude/immature/too young imo peeps playing. I dont like the raid set up( 25 man? 10 man? pfft)40 man raids no body bothers with. However, my work hrs interfer with me being able to raid on a regular basis, which is the main reason why i left EQ1. I love eq 1 LOL but.. my guild that i belonged too for ... a long time changed days/hrs that wasnt good for me at all. Btw i started playing eq like 3 months after it first came out. My cousins, gf, and a couple rl friends play wow ( which is the main reason i tried it in the first place ) and im trying to get them to come back to swg/ and or try it out :p

ok im done rambleing and im drunk! lol
#7 Jun 01 2007 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
Shouldnt this be on the out of topic forum?
#8 Jun 01 2007 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
Every MMORPG is different calling less than another is plan wrong when other people might disagree in fact anything anyone will ever say about MMORPGs is there opinion. I think they all suck equally and thats my opinion but I play the two that suck the least and that would be in my opinion World of Warcraft and Starwars Galaxies. And if you want to play the ""That MMORPG sux game"" if you look and the sales and numbers WoW has all of em beat by millions and millions of players there are more players on one server in WoW than all the servers in SWG combined. Those are the numbers they dont lie. On the other hand I like SWG cause its starwars and I am a HUGE Starwars fanatic and I will play SWG till a better Starwars MMO is released. So this is my opinion and only my opinion and others my not like it but thats why I like the United States as long as you dont **** off the FCC your good.

So to end my opinion on this last thought play a MMO based on your likes and dislikes and let others have there fun cause in the end thats what its all about having fun.
#9 Jun 01 2007 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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kayala wrote:
well, i did just come from WOW. There are several reasons.
One big thing there are just sooooo many rude/immature/too young imo peeps playing. I dont like the raid set up( 25 man? 10 man? pfft)40 man raids no body bothers with. However, my work hrs interfer with me being able to raid on a regular basis, which is the main reason why i left EQ1. I love eq 1 LOL but.. my guild that i belonged too for ... a long time changed days/hrs that wasnt good for me at all. Btw i started playing eq like 3 months after it first came out. My cousins, gf, and a couple rl friends play wow ( which is the main reason i tried it in the first place ) and im trying to get them to come back to swg/ and or try it out :p

ok im done rambleing and im drunk! lol


those kinds of people are present in swg too, its just that because there are few players in swg, its more noticeable, but they exist in all games, so if your hoping for a more mature environment..... its a problem for all mmo's, the only solution is to find a guild/fellowship/corporation etc, that has the type of people in it that you would want to associate with. as for raids, swg has recently undergone some changes that probably brings it more into line with other games as regards to raid type activities, the game no longer supports stricly solo play, grouping is definitely a requirement. as for drawing people back to swg, dont worry about it, people will try it, or not, as they wish, but as its never had a particularly huge following, its unlikely you'd have much luck with that anyway :D
#10 Jun 01 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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i personally think one of the few reasons wow is so big is that it was marketed better....

I can only speak from my expirence though. I live in Australia and unless you looked for it, you would have never known SWG existed. With WOW you had a big following with Warcraft 3 and that took off big time especially with the online play (3 corridors etc) and i was def a fan. My fav SW game was galatic battlegrounds and i still recon it craps all over empires. I played that game to death i stil do now and then.

but to back what i was saying blizzard where smart and realesed it everywhere and didnt try to suck in one audience, also i think if WOW was realesed when SWG was and SWG was realesed now, SWG would be the most popular, i mean look at the success of the latest movie and KOTOR etc. In 3 years tech has advanced also and pc,s and DSL/cable is more affordable and attainable, so in my opnion it was right place wrong time and vice versa.
#11 Jun 01 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
Alright, well i will try to get the trial for SWG. Now is there any tips as to what i should try first? Should i not be a crafter at first(in WoW crafting at low levels is nothing but time and money sink, thats all) or what? Is it easy to attain money i nthe beginnign to have some fun.

Also is there a suggested server you guys have that has a good guild/clan/whatever that would take me in?
#12 Jun 01 2007 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
The easiest way to get money in the beginning in SWG is to do quests.
They arent really hard and give kinda much money
#13 Jun 02 2007 at 2:11 AM Rating: Decent
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After playing as Jedi pre-cu no Dwarf, Mage or Warrior can ever compete..
And besides, i'm a lifelong Star Wars fan, SWG is still the best Star Wars online Mmorpg.
#14 Jun 02 2007 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
Like I said in previous post ... Opinions Very play what makes you happy there is no one better MMO everyone plays what they think is the best...
#15 Jun 03 2007 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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milcontwo wrote:
Alright, well i will try to get the trial for SWG. Now is there any tips as to what i should try first? Should i not be a crafter at first(in WoW crafting at low levels is nothing but time and money sink, thats all) or what? Is it easy to attain money i nthe beginnign to have some fun.

Also is there a suggested server you guys have that has a good guild/clan/whatever that would take me in?


forget about other MMO's the crafting in SWG is totally different, if i was you i would advise you create a combat toon for the trial, though you might find that the help you get in game will be limited until the trial actually runs out, this is nothing against you at all, its just that various guilds etc are unlikely to devote too many of their resources to a player who may end up just disappearing after 2 weeks never to be seen again, on the other hand, you will get plenty of help in the form of advice, which should be more than enough :D
#16 Jun 04 2007 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
The OP asked for people's opinion.
well, he asked if anyone played wow...
Then he asked why said person left..
Then asked was there a reason why you didnt want to leave...

If anyone was to answer the Op's questions I would think you would almost have to give your opinion...

And thank god that everyone's opinion's VARY, or are VERY Various, or are Varied VERY much!! It would be a very dull world indeed if we all thought the same.


of course, this is just MY opinion lol
#17 Jun 04 2007 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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kayala wrote:
The OP asked for people's opinion.
well, he asked if anyone played wow...
Then he asked why said person left..
Then asked was there a reason why you didnt want to leave...

If anyone was to answer the Op's questions I would think you would almost have to give your opinion...

And thank god that everyone's opinion's VARY, or are VERY Various, or are Varied VERY much!! It would be a very dull world indeed if we all thought the same.


of course, this is just MY opinion lol


currently am a WOW player, although i dont play all that often, no real reason to leave it tbh, its casual player compatable, and is cheap, suits me just fine :D
#18 Jun 04 2007 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Opinions are like butts....everyone has one and they all stink...depending on who you ask. You will never find someone that plays WOW that will understand why people leave....Just like I don't understand why people who left SWG and now come back to b*tch about why they left in the first place. This is personal preferance...the game got boring, or too many noobs, or had a falling out with a guild or friends. There are many reasons why one would leave a game for another or leave gaming all together. To understand this...you first have to understand your own reasons for staying or for leaving, even then that may only help too accept the reasons not understand them.
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#19 Jun 05 2007 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Azrielis wrote:
Opinions are like butts....everyone has one and they all stink...depending on who you ask. You will never find someone that plays WOW that will understand why people leave....Just like I don't understand why people who left SWG and now come back to b*tch about why they left in the first place. This is personal preferance...the game got boring, or too many noobs, or had a falling out with a guild or friends. There are many reasons why one would leave a game for another or leave gaming all together. To understand this...you first have to understand your own reasons for staying or for leaving, even then that may only help too accept the reasons not understand them.


people generally leave WOW because they get bored of it, those that leave it anyway, WOW has a pretty good retention rate, and blizzard generally has a good reputation with the players.
unless you were there during the big SWG exodus though, then your not likely to understand the reasons behind it, it wasnt a question of players getting bored of the game, in fact, most of the players didnt even want to leave, they were pushed out by SOE, that may be an oversimplification, but, that is the effect that the NGE had upon the game, and exodus is very descriptive of what happened, because in that single month of the NGE's release, SOE managed to make 80 percent of the SWG players leave the game, only a small percentage of whom ever returned. but if you werent around at the time, then you probably won't understand why they left at that time, nor why there would be so much anger at SOE because of it.
#20 Jun 07 2007 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
I used to play WoW on and off for about a year and a bit. I loved it originally, and for quite a while after, but eventually I felt as though I pretty much took the life and soul out of the game, going on became an act of habit rather than actually wanting to go on. I found myself wandering around wasting hours doing absolutely nothing constructive at all, so eventually I quit :)

When BC came out I was in half a mind to go back but now I don't think I ever will since I finally started play SWG. I have always meant to play SWG but I never got around to it, and then when I found about all the problems it has with NGE etc. etc. I assumed that I never would. But recently I thought heck, I'm a big SW fan, I should at least give the game and try and well.. I am pleased I did :)

Basically I agree with the 'standard' arguments about WoW: too many young people, very arrogant and inclusive higher level community, can easily waste hours playing without doing anything other than refresh the Auction House listing page etc. etc.
#21 Jun 08 2007 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
i downloaded the trial of WoW, and played til i was baout lvl 25. after that, it just seemed boring. there just wasnt enough different things to do, or places to see. the quests all felt the same, etc. after a while i dreaded going on to play, but felt that i "should" after my month was up, i quit playing, and am happily back to SWG
#22 Jun 14 2007 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
milcontwo wrote:
Have you played WoW? If you came from it, why did you leave it? Was there a reason you didnt want to leave?


I trialed it, it kept me semi interested for about 9 days. The good thing about it- ran solid without lag, and the enviorment is artistic- not auto-generated.

The bad thing is; its too generic feeling. If its your first MMORPG I can see why you'd get a hooked- all the traditional questy, elfy, MMORPG dynamics are there- but if its not your 1rst MMOG then its really freakin cheesey- been there done that in 1998.

Then theres its community which just takes too much pride in themselves, their toon, and the whole WoW thing in general for me to find them appealing as ppl.

At least most SWG players can admit their game sux.
#23 Jun 14 2007 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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WOW is probably a once in a lifetime phenomenon, its a game that is still growing, love it or hate it, and most of the players love it, after all, how many players are there now, 10, 11 million? but whether you like the game or not, its one that appeals to the masses, it plays on most computer systems very easily, and its a finished product, and the focus of the devs is mostly on adding new content, ie, they are focused on making the players happy. but its not a game that the solo player can do well in, WOW, is a game of being a part of something, thats not to say that you can't solo your way to the top levels, you can, its just that you can only do the fun stuff, as part of a group, the game is designed that way, and its a way that has worked very well for them. the fact that SWG is moving away from solo everything to being a group game again, is as i see things, a very big step forward, hopefully its not a step that was taken too late.


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#24 Jun 15 2007 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
I'm currently playing wow, but I also own a swg account, it's strange, swg got a much better crafting system, housing etc. but it's more fun to play wow, perhaps I'm too mainstream
#25 Jun 15 2007 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Liking simplisity isn't a crime...liking a game that is easy to play isn't bad either. As a pure gamer....thats not what I like in a game. Not to mention...how many fantasy MMO's are out there...they are all the same....Elves, Orcs, Humans, Wizards, Clerics, Fighters....that could describe any other the games that are out. WOW is just another one in a long line of fantasy clones trying to capture what Dungeons & Dragons started and perfected. Only they leveled the playing field for all the classes to make "Easier" for those who know nothing about gaming start and kick azz. As I have said before...all the class had thier pros and cons to make sure you have to group to survive. Don't give me that WOW is group based....my friends bot thier toons all the time solo...which by the way is one thing that bothers me....even in SGW...AFK grinding...and they didn't even write the stupid scripting for the bot. This is just indictive of how people have to have things spoon fed to them or they don't like it. Make easy for the masses...lame it down and they will come. SWG did that as well and you see how the players who like to play reacted. With anger and outrage....many left to never come back....what puzzles me....is why they went to WOW. It's easy enough were kids and grind a high level toon and only know how to use the most power attacks on that toon and never learn or even take the time to learn the little odds and ends of thier charater class becaues they don't have too. No need to be creative to win...just pound on it with a hammer until it breaks. They don't have to learn to use a flesh to stone spell and then use a stone to mud spell to kill. NO I say...they hit it with fireballs, lightning bolts, magic missles, and vampiric magic. They pound it with sword and hammer....instead of have 3 lines of charaters. 1st line fighters, knights, and Palidins 2nd line Clerics, Druids, and Thieves for healing and protective suppoort 3rd line of Mages and Wizards lobbing fireballs, ice storms, and gating in friendly mosters....instead of straight line magic like lightning bolts, and cones of whatever you like...cold, ice, fire, gas or whatever because you have to think about those in front of you. So no even in groups you still see very little team work....you just see 10 people beating on a happless monster. Even a dragon for all it vaunted power can't stand up to that. So you call that fun....it's ok. I don't...give me my dice, paper, and pencil and I will play a fanasty my way...with friends working together because if we don't we all have to get reserected in every battle until we do because if you grandstand against a Asmodious or Tiamat...you will find your charaters soul feeding thier pets. I play SWG "BECAUSE" it's Star Wars....nothing else. It's unique for that reason alone. it's has Jedi...as messed up as SOE made it...the Jedi is one of the most unique charaters ever created. What makes WOW different than any of the other ones? If someone can answer that maybe I will download and play it, but I don't think you can....they all have they same things to offer....at that point it all boils down to content...being a game master that runs most of his games from his mind and not the books becaues they all but comitted to memory after playing the game for 27yrs...they could never come close to the power of the mind with static encounters. Which like here people have stratagies to beat each and everyone of them. Try beating a game master that has a fluid game going and has a bag of tricks Loki the Trickster himself would be jelous of...which I have used on player charaters before. How many games have you play that can say that. Either way....you now have my tiraid....it's legnthy and will probley rub people the wrong way....but frankly I don't care.

Edited, Jun 15th 2007 3:04pm by Azrielis
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#26 Jun 16 2007 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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i've played in many games over the years, legends of kesmai, eq1 and eq2, ultima online second age, swg, asherons call 1 and 2, eve online, lotro, vanguard etc, and of course, WOW, but, as much as i have enjoyed, and still do enjoy playing some of those games, they dont come close to the fun i used to have when i played the paper and pencil version of ad&d. graphics are all well and good, but when the only restrictions was the imagination, and a sometimes 'liberal' interpretation of a bunch of rules in a book, it was somehow so much more fun.
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