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Have you played WoW? If you came from it, why did you leave it? Was there a reason you didnt want to leave?

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didnt come from it, but the game is boring as ****, horrible community, easier than nge swg, stupid people, and devs who listen to stupid people

this is a really pointless thread for SWG, it really belongs on a wow forum ? maybe instigator will move it when he reads it :D

Shouldnt this be on the out of topic forum?

those kinds of people are present in swg too, its just that because there are few players in swg, its more noticeable, but they exist in all games, so if your hoping for a more mature environment..... its a problem for all mmo's, the only solution is to find a guild/fellowship/corporation etc, that has the type of people in it that you would want to associate with. as for raids, swg has recently undergone some changes that probably brings it more into line with other games as regards to raid type activities, the game no longer supports stricly solo play, grouping is definitely a requirement. as for drawing people back to swg, dont worry about it, people will try it, or not, as they wish, but as its never had a particularly huge following, its unlikely you'd have much luck with that anyway :D

Alright, well i will try to get the trial for SWG. Now is there any tips as to what i should try first? Should i not be a crafter at first(in WoW crafting at low levels is nothing but time and money sink, thats all) or what? Is it easy to attain money i nthe beginnign to have some fun.

Also is there a suggested server you guys have that has a good guild/clan/whatever that would take me in?

After playing as Jedi pre-cu no Dwarf, Mage or Warrior can ever compete..
And besides, i'm a lifelong Star Wars fan, SWG is still the best Star Wars online Mmorpg.

forget about other MMO's the crafting in SWG is totally different, if i was you i would advise you create a combat toon for the trial, though you might find that the help you get in game will be limited until the trial actually runs out, this is nothing against you at all, its just that various guilds etc are unlikely to devote too many of their resources to a player who may end up just disappearing after 2 weeks never to be seen again, on the other hand, you will get plenty of help in the form of advice, which should be more than enough :D

currently am a WOW player, although i dont play all that often, no real reason to leave it tbh, its casual player compatable, and is cheap, suits me just fine :D

people generally leave WOW because they get bored of it, those that leave it anyway, WOW has a pretty good retention rate, and blizzard generally has a good reputation with the players.
unless you were there during the big SWG exodus though, then your not likely to understand the reasons behind it, it wasnt a question of players getting bored of the game, in fact, most of the players didnt even want to leave, they were pushed out by SOE, that may be an oversimplification, but, that is the effect that the NGE had upon the game, and exodus is very descriptive of what happened, because in that single month of the NGE's release, SOE managed to make 80 percent of the SWG players leave the game, only a small percentage of whom ever returned. but if you werent around at the time, then you probably won't understand why they left at that time, nor why there would be so much anger at SOE because of it.

i downloaded the trial of WoW, and played til i was baout lvl 25. after that, it just seemed boring. there just wasnt enough different things to do, or places to see. the quests all felt the same, etc. after a while i dreaded going on to play, but felt that i "should" after my month was up, i quit playing, and am happily back to SWG

WOW is probably a once in a lifetime phenomenon, its a game that is still growing, love it or hate it, and most of the players love it, after all, how many players are there now, 10, 11 million? but whether you like the game or not, its one that appeals to the masses, it plays on most computer systems very easily, and its a finished product, and the focus of the devs is mostly on adding new content, ie, they are focused on making the players happy. but its not a game that the solo player can do well in, WOW, is a game of being a part of something, thats not to say that you can't solo your way to the top levels, you can, its just that you can only do the fun stuff, as part of a group, the game is designed that way, and its a way that has worked very well for them. the fact that SWG is moving away from solo everything to being a group game again, is as i see things, a very big step forward, hopefully its not a step that was taken too late.


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Liking simplisity isn't a crime...liking a game that is easy to play isn't bad either. As a pure gamer....thats not what I like in a game. Not to mention...how many fantasy MMO's are out there...they are all the same....Elves, Orcs, Humans, Wizards, Clerics, Fighters....that could describe any other the games that are out. WOW is just another one in a long line of fantasy clones trying to capture what Dungeons & Dragons started and perfected. Only they leveled the playing field for all the classes to make "Easier" for those who know nothing about gaming start and kick azz. As I have said before...all the class had thier pros and cons to make sure you have to group to survive. Don't give me that WOW is group based....my friends bot thier toons all the time solo...which by the way is one thing that bothers me....even in SGW...AFK grinding...and they didn't even write the stupid scripting for the bot. This is just indictive of how people have to have things spoon fed to them or they don't like it. Make easy for the masses...lame it down and they will come. SWG did that as well and you see how the players who like to play reacted. With anger and outrage....many left to never come back....what puzzles me....is why they went to WOW. It's easy enough were kids and grind a high level toon and only know how to use the most power attacks on that toon and never learn or even take the time to learn the little odds and ends of thier charater class becaues they don't have too. No need to be creative to win...just pound on it with a hammer until it breaks. They don't have to learn to use a flesh to stone spell and then use a stone to mud spell to kill. NO I say...they hit it with fireballs, lightning bolts, magic missles, and vampiric magic. They pound it with sword and hammer....instead of have 3 lines of charaters. 1st line fighters, knights, and Palidins 2nd line Clerics, Druids, and Thieves for healing and protective suppoort 3rd line of Mages and Wizards lobbing fireballs, ice storms, and gating in friendly mosters....instead of straight line magic like lightning bolts, and cones of whatever you like...cold, ice, fire, gas or whatever because you have to think about those in front of you. So no even in groups you still see very little team work....you just see 10 people beating on a happless monster. Even a dragon for all it vaunted power can't stand up to that. So you call that fun....it's ok. I don't...give me my dice, paper, and pencil and I will play a fanasty my way...with friends working together because if we don't we all have to get reserected in every battle until we do because if you grandstand against a Asmodious or Tiamat...you will find your charaters soul feeding thier pets. I play SWG "BECAUSE" it's Star Wars....nothing else. It's unique for that reason alone. it's has Jedi...as messed up as SOE made it...the Jedi is one of the most unique charaters ever created. What makes WOW different than any of the other ones? If someone can answer that maybe I will download and play it, but I don't think you can....they all have they same things to offer....at that point it all boils down to content...being a game master that runs most of his games from his mind and not the books becaues they all but comitted to memory after playing the game for 27yrs...they could never come close to the power of the mind with static encounters. Which like here people have stratagies to beat each and everyone of them. Try beating a game master that has a fluid game going and has a bag of tricks Loki the Trickster himself would be jelous of...which I have used on player charaters before. How many games have you play that can say that. Either way....you now have my tiraid....it's legnthy and will probley rub people the wrong way....but frankly I don't care.

Edited, Jun 15th 2007 3:04pm by Azrielis