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#1 Jun 18 2007 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Can someone explain to me what I saw during gaming today. I saw one person controling 6 seprate toons. Now if he is paying for the accounts it's not a big issue to me...it's his money, but I pretty sure he's using the trial version. I think he was going to spam various starports...but this struck me as wrong. Not sure if it's against the ELUA...but it's defintely not right...or least in my book. This is the reasoning....I noticed that they were all Ent and all 90lvl. No badges, not any other questing exp. So this leads me to believe that he is AFK grinding and spamming. Now I have a pretty beefy gaming rig...a bonus of my profession. One step back off of cutting edge...but when I step off into a starport...the speech bubbles are killing my frame rate. None of the other graphicly intensive games I play...Stalker, Half Life 2, Oblivion, BF2, Neverwinter Night 2, Dark Messiah don't chug like this game does when I step out of a starport. So this is a sore point for me...and down right irritating. Is there a recourse for me when I see this or will I be ignored by SOE? Is this against the EULA or some kind of unwritten rule of gaming? If it's not...it should be...it's wrong on several levels. Anyway...Thats my *****..and if someone can actually answer those questions...cool...if you are one of those that does what I have explained...sorry....I think it's wrong.
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#2 Jun 18 2007 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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you can run as many chars as you have accounts, but, as for the afk grinding etc, as it only takes about 16 hours to level up an entertainer from 1 to 90, its very possible they are trial accounts, lately there has been a massive influx of RMT'ers, and all they do is spam their email addresses and services outside of mos eisley starport. if you are having a problem with lag, you can reduce it by making sure you have at least 1gb of ram, if using windows xp, or 2gb of ram if using vista, though a certain amount of the lag is server side which can't be helped. but these RMT creeps are realy annoying. all you can really do is report them, and keep adding them to your ignore lists.
#3 Jun 18 2007 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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Congrats you just met your first credit farmers hon.

Wasn't it nice of SOE to make it easier for them by giving ENT's a combat level.

yes its against the rules of the eula blah blah blah blah, but you know what the only people i ever heard of being banned for it wern't even credit farmers they jsut happened to be in the area at the time

(oh and just for added humour value one of them had actually reported the credit farmers and was hanging around to see what happened, go figure)
#4 Jun 18 2007 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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This wasn't one account with 6 toons.....this was 6 seprate accounts with all the toons logged in at once...he appeared to have macros running so these "Bots" woiuld follow him around...this is what un-nerved me...if someone figures out how to do this with other toons...no one is safe for PVP and the economy will dive..this is what I'm talking about....that could change PVP permantly unless someone chnages the requirements for the trial...I thought it was a farmer at first...and still do, but running 6 seperate accounts like I said...if he wants to waste that kind of money who am I say one way or the other. If he's using the trial...that closer to abuse of the system than any other I have seen.
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#5 Jun 18 2007 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I remember there was this chap on Bria named zzzardozzz or something, all his alts were in stormtrooper armour, followed him around the place too, probably would have been unstoppable too.
#6 Jun 19 2007 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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seems like a waste of money to me......

but yes i have seen more of the credit farmers and they are most likely using trial accounts as they just use default SWG names....

just /report them and if ppl are around like low level guys in eisley ask them too too...they go away alot quicker
#7 Jun 19 2007 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe the devs on the last stratics chat said they were going to address the credit farmer situation in an upcoming hot fix... i hope so.
#8 Jun 20 2007 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Credit Farmers and RMT'ers, can't stand them, they despoil games with their greed, i know SWG has a low sub base, but, as most of these guys seem to be running trial accounts, maybe its time for SOE to ditch the trials, they've been around long enough now that any real benefit must have long since passed. other companies have a strict ruling on what can and can't be done with trial accounts, its time for SOE to either tighten things up, or ditch the trials altogether. they need to look after the players they have :D
#9 Jun 21 2007 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
I believe, as of yesterday or the day before, Trial accounts can no longer leave the station for just this purpose. Its spose to be a temp fix but untill they figure out a better way to stop the cred spammers this is what it is.

On another note, when i use to play over a year ago, i ran 2 accounts at the same time.

I have 2 puters, and no i didnt macro or have any 3rd party stuff goin on.. I played a MTKA/Almost master Beast handler and my second toon was a master dancer/master Doc. In Pvp, it wasnt worth trying to run both at the same time, or at least for me cause the action was too fast/too much lag and alot of moving around. But my Doc would be parked nearby to buff and heal and stuff lol.

Ive been playin MMO's since EQ first came out an after 6 months ive played 2 toons just about the whole time since. EQ, EQ2, SWG...My second puter atm needs a mother lol.. so im one boxing it for now. I played WoW for awhile with one box too, so i might not even 2 box anymore at all who knows.

But all that aside, sombody farming to sell creds is just wrong.
#10 Jun 21 2007 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm getting ready to start a second account so I can get an additional 8 toons, but again I'm not a farmer, but I will be spending the money on 2 accounts. Like I said that is ok...but like I said....hew had 6 going at once. That mean 6 accounts logged in at once. and he was lagging....I could tell by the clicky way the toons were moving...he was also moving way to deliberate to be controling only one account, he was controling all 6 with macros...basic movements...but they were still moving. Like I said...if someone can figure out how to do this more smoothly or have a connection like mine....even the most veteran of players would be in trouble in PVP....specially if they walking turrets with heavy armor and big guns....they only need to shoot and all who will face him goes down.
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#11 Jun 21 2007 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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not really, its not so much command via /macros, just the in built follow command then auto attack my target for the combat i beleive. Plus in PVP you would have to duel all 6 of them.

Ok they could run as back up on auto attack in restuss, but the lag would kill them!

And yeah it would have to be 6 seperate accounts toget them all on to one server you can only have 2 toons per server and 4 on tc prime.
#12 Jun 26 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
Azrielis wrote:
...no one is safe for PVP


+STEALTH+
#13 Jun 26 2007 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
I dont think you need to worry about them dominating pvp, most people who run 6 seperate accounts with level 90 ents are credit farmers who do missions from player citys then sell the credits. If you think about it with 6 toons you can make like 48k per mission run each of which takes a short time. Thats a lot of credits which they can sell to cover the cost of 6 accounts plus make profit.
#14 Jun 26 2007 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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The economics isn't hard to figure out....you are even using low numbers. My concern is with a little bit of applied thinking and this could be a reality! Auto targeting commands, assist commands, follow target commands....with heavily armed commandos or jedi....it doesn't have to be perfect. In open PVP areas all it has to be 25% effective with 3 "Bots" let alone 6.
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#15 Jun 27 2007 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
This isnt the work of credit farmers. This is the brainchild of a bizarre north korean experiment conducted on a 7 armed korean youth by ex-**** sympathizers.

Where have you guys been??? Dont you watch 20/20? This is old news-

-"A korean youth was geneticly altered from birth to spawn 6 arms from his body- 4 along his sides plus 2 crablike flesh colored pinchers, 1 on each side of the neck. The main arms stretch the entire length of his body, 5'8", and are extended to the reach the computer terminals lateral to him while the pinchers manipulate the foward terminal."

The 7th "arm" is totally independent, and is used for play star craft simultaneously with SWG.

and he plays on all the servers.

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 11:36pm by Jerok
#16 Jun 28 2007 at 4:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Ooooooooooh I get it...a freak....I thought I was being paranoid...thanks for clearing that up for me. I might even have use for 7 arms....or not! I stay away from Star Crack.....I do something stupid like Star Wars: Galaxy at War or Rome: Total War or one of way to numerous games I like to play. If it's not SWG right now....it only get "The servers down I got time to kill" duty. Mechwarrior IV Mercenaries is real good for that or SW: Battlefront II.
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