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Nerfing JEDIFollow

#1 Jun 22 2007 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
It is my thoughts that Jedi need to be Nerfed.. There to powerful in PVP


Saber Block/Snare/Force run/ and if the battle don,t go there way Force Cloak/ Return do it all over again till they win. With the right buffs Jedi are unstoppable which throws off all the other classes in PVP the DEVs have no prob NERFing other classes so I say Nerf JEDI Give the BH a chance to get his mark with out a overpowered JEDI snaring and Force running everywhere. If you are any class other than Jedi you know what I am talking about ... The Jedi love there class there basically unstoppable. MAKE PVP even NERF JEDI.
#2 Jun 22 2007 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
Don't nerf it...just make all nge jedi respec and make it how it was before. Make jedi actually a challenge instead of a bunch of newbs running around with light sabers.
#3 Jun 22 2007 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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thats all it was before, a buinch of noobs who couldnt play the game so had to have the uber leet pwnsauce in order to do anything.

just delete jedi and stop all the stupid ******* annoyances that come with them
#4 Jun 22 2007 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a Jedi, and trust me, you have no idea how hard it is at times, I can take most people out because I have a damn good saber, know the armour weaknesses with the crystal elements, have a decent stat suit and I've been playing for 4 years, experience no?

I don't care about doing the Village to reget Jedi again, fine, but don't just delete Jedi because your having a little hassle pointing your rifle at them, I've been killed by hundreds of BH and commandos and spies and erm... ents... Because they knew exactly how to fight me from the start, be tactical, be clever and improve your weakness instead of praying to the gods to remove their advantage I always say.
#5 Jun 22 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
All I know is I was a Jedi once. I have advanced saber block and i pushed my dodge up over 4000 thats kinda insane if you ask me.. I know jedi are these uber bad asses that used the force but common this is the game realm where if one class is better than the others you either nerf it or everyone specs it.. i am tired of seeing all these dam jedi in PVP you get like 5 jedi on you, your screwed. Cause no matter how hard you try you cant get past there Saber Block..

Do something common there nerfing all the classes at least look over Jedi..
#6 Jun 22 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a low level jedi.

Is saber block an ability, or is it an expertise thing, or what?
#7 Jun 22 2007 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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rofl talking about nerfing jedi's again huh? I was waiting for someone to whine about it. I've seen fantastic jedi's getting killed, you just need to get your tactics right
#8 Jun 22 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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... can't believe seriously has a problem with the strength of jedi's at the moment, their among the weakest of the combatants, there really is no need for them to be nerfed any more than they already have been. this sounds more like a case of, learn to play your own profession properly, kind of thing, not nerf the world instead. seriously though, there have been far too many nerf calls in swg already, and usually for no good reason.
#9 Jun 23 2007 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
I understand people who play Jedi I was one CL 90 Jedi and I know for a fact if you have good gear and spec'd correctly your unstoppable. Get buffed up and go PVP there not that easy to kill, There the leading damage dealers in the melee classes get a OR-Jinzu hilt theres more put out of DPS right there. my CL 90 Jedi all buffed was over 20k life and had advanced Saber block I was still using the CL78 saber and I still was decent in PVP. But there are people that that play Jedi that rarely get beat and I know on that I have never seen get beat ever and this guy has a massive bounty on his head. I am sorry but Jedi need to be looked over and made to go along with all the other nerfed chars in SWG.

Hopefully in the future they will change the name of the game to Jedi Galaxies cause thats what it really is I mean who needs these other classes when you can play a Jedi. And tell me again what era of Starwars is this again cause this isnt during the Starwars movies I see to many Jedi running around thought they got purged and where afraid to show themselves in fear of Vaders order to eliminate them all. And do come back with this winning BS either cause thats a scape goat for the real truth. TO MANY JEDI and I am not talkin about a pre NGE thing here I wasnt even playing back then. I honestly think Jedi should be a sub-class like after you hit CL90 on a melee toon you can go through some kinda thing to become Jedi.


But I think I have said enough here, Got all the Jedi players crying over something that will never happen cause it brings money into the people behind the games pockets. They will never nerf Jedi infact I think they will only get stronger while other toons continue to get messed with over and over again. Next time someone asks me what MMORPG I play I will just say Jedi Galaxies.. Nuff SAID....
#10 Jun 23 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Dude, get a fricking life allready. Just because you suck and are so incompetent you cant kill a Jedi, they have to nerf em?
And if you are complaining about the number of Jedi's playing NOW, and you also claim you have been a lvl 90 Jedi, you Sir are obviously a E-bay account buyer cause the number of Jedi's are far lower than than when the NGE hit and the following months after.
#11 Jun 23 2007 at 5:44 AM Rating: Good
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Go play WOW your kind have destroyed Enough of this game thank you.

So lets see my saber does less damamge than any of your lvl 80 weapons,
i have to kill krayts to get my pearls, or i pay top rates for resourses, crafting kits/stations and the pearls.
My armour is less THAN YOURS, All but 3 buffs i have you can use.
Any stats upgrade i use you can use
The timer on my heal means its not actually that much more than any other proff over time.

I suggest you actually work on your toon and get the things you need to compete if you wish to PVP. try getting your rank up and get the officer buffs, the com links, the heals from the bases.

Oh your not complaining about how much they out balance PVP are ya, so i assume you got them and still got your **** handed to you, so now you come here and complain, probably after being laughed off the main station boards like the cry boy you are.

As for other proffs being nerf'd you have NO FRAKKKING IDEA how much jedi have been nerfed over the course of this game, because of people like you that refuse to actually learn your proff and expect to have i winz buttons. 5 jedi and your dead, 5 of any proff and your screwed whats the diffrence??? get real, how about coming out of your mothers basement for an hour or so, theres sun light out side.

Maybe if you ask the devs they will give you a special i winzzz button when they do the new species bonus, as long as you respec your toon to the special basement dweller species.



Edited, Jun 23rd 2007 9:51am by EmjayR
#12 Jun 23 2007 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
i say we nerf spy cause i got killed by spies and them being able to cloak hit cloak, it's no fair. i say this as a jedi too. being a jedi i don't feel they are the most powerful class out there. i've seen real good ones and real bad ones that goes for all classes. if you don't like it learn your class better and maybe next time you might be able to take out a couple before they kill you.
#13 Jun 23 2007 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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NERF ENTERTAINERS THEY TO HARD!!!!!! I MEAN THEY CAN USE GUNS NOW!!!!!
#14 Jun 23 2007 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a lvl 87 Jedi, with JMC and decent saber. I get pwned in pvp but then again im a noob and i nvr get in a group. As for nerfing jedi, if they want to be "correct" they should just take out jedi, one emperor palpatine practically killed all the jedi and half of the pop. in swg is jedi. Plus i hate being a jedi and i would like the free respec
#15 Jun 24 2007 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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i say we nerf spy cause i got killed by spies and them being able to cloak hit cloak, it's no fair. i say this as a jedi too. being a jedi i don't feel they are the most powerful class out there. i've seen real good ones and real bad ones that goes for all classes. if you don't like it learn your class better and maybe next time you might be able to take out a couple before they kill you.
Thats the point of their profession, hence the name ''Spy''.
#16 Jun 24 2007 at 4:47 AM Rating: Good
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NERF CRAFTERS THIER LEVEL 90NESS OFFENDS ME!!!!!

combat toons had to earn their level 90, not make gungan head statues!!!!
#17 Jun 24 2007 at 5:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Nerf Jabba, he's too fat!!
#18 Jun 24 2007 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
no. i dont agree.

i am a pvp spy, i never have had a jedi toon. i am SF (overt) 95% of the time. they've already had their time in NGE as paper. let them have their cake right now- other classes are getting a blance pass chptr 7.

not all jedi are good- their overconfidence sometimes is their biggest weakness, the ones that are good have put enough thought into survival or let them run- to me thats a morale victory anyway.

another jedi will eventually catch up to them and my DoT will eventually award me some GCW when someone else kills that Jedi. But then i'm not the type of player who has to be the best PvPer by dueling the best of the best on my server, na, ***** all that.

I prey on the weak or wounded I admit, but its all GCW in the end. If I see an uber jedi i just watch and wait- his time to die will come and hopefully I'm the one who finishes him off. If I wanted honor and prestige I'd respec to Jedi but no, the hate tells I'd miss too much.

Anyway nerfing any class is a bad idea because it creates a n unseen domino effect EVERY TIME. No, let the players who are good be good and just keep practicing- no ones good overnight every gets pwned at first, thats just the initiation.

Anyone can beat anyone else, maybe not every time but you can beat that jedi if you try more than once..

In another way I'd agree with you from a smuggler view, but then I was killing them easier with smuggler than I was with spy, but smuggler has no where to escape to if the odds get bad, maybe that will change soon with the new species/origin innate skills, like bothan hide to break combat and launch ship- therefore smuggler maybe can be able to escape soon. Right now once their run wears off they have no where to escape to and thats supposed to be what their good at.
#19 Jun 24 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I prey on the weak or wounded I admit, but its all GCW in the end. If I see an uber jedi i just watch and wait- his time to die will come and hopefully I'm the one who finishes him off. If I wanted honor and prestige I'd respec to Jedi but no, the hate tells I'd miss too much.
I value honour too much, but what I did defeated the purpose of spy, there were about 10 or so rebels and they were attacking Admiral Grot, one of them had alot of agro on them and was incapped so I hid by the building, Force ran and relieved himself of his existence, I ran out of there without a scratch, it was perfect.
#20 Jun 24 2007 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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nerf nym's quartermasters.... they are the ones causing the lag with the those slices!!

and im tired of eating cake....
#21 Jun 24 2007 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
the nyms slice is the best thing. nothing like seeing spammers in eisly doing the gay looking dance till they are kicked off.
we should nerf the nym them park cause doing it in 2 missions is just to much.
#22 Jun 25 2007 at 5:51 PM Rating: Default
Don't really care what you Jedi think. Your Jedi you would defend your class to the end its what any class would do. But as far as I see it there has been a slight increase in the Jedi population since CH6 why is this.. Maybe its because they where not messed with in CH6 they got a SB boost I think it was around 10% so if you put points in advanced SB and have the right gear your dodge goes up and over 4-6 and in rare cases 10k of dodge. You try to hit something with that much dodge and to top it off there Snare lasts like a min in PVP thats to long you snare and pop SB and force run its over. And the Old Republic hilt if you have good mats is over 1000 DPS I know someone that has over 1100 DPS on there saber ad the + 75 strength to all the above.. Its pretty much laid out for you. I posted this for a reason. I don't really care about winning or losing in PVP. But the day I posted this I seen a CL 90 Jedi take out 4 commandos with no problem I knew there was something up with Jedi I did some research being a master jedi myself once I just had to ask a few friends about the CH6 and what it did to there jedi.

We will just say if you play a Jedi its not for the cool robes .. Its to pwn in PVP which that they do.. I am happy for ya .. But sometimes enough is enough and I think the Devs need to look over Jedi and brainstorm on how to make it a tad bit more even on the field. I would say give the Jinzu hilt as a lvl 90 gift like the belt is and give em better Armor to match the other armor in the game and lower there Snare times and up the Force run cool down.. and make SB a percentage to block instead of buffing the heck out of there dodge.

All in all its not that bad of a thing .. it reduces the ******** about grinding for there hilts and makes it possible to get away form them in PVP the Snare cool down will already be good to go after its duration is up anyway its not like you dont already sploit snare on a Jedi anyway its all i hear in PVP is force lighting.

And really if you dont like my OPINION you can bite it.. its not like you all dont sound like your not crying about someone saying NERF JEDI.. Its the forums people put **** in here all the time get over it. Play your damn Jedi and shut up. Its not like there gonna mess with it anyway it brings to much money into th e Devs pockets.
#23 Jun 25 2007 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
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And really if you dont like my OPINION you can bite it.. its not like you all dont sound like your not crying about someone saying NERF JEDI.. Its the forums people put sh*t in here all the time get over it. Play your damn Jedi and shut up. Its not like there gonna mess with it anyway it brings to much money into th e Devs pockets.
Play your damn profession too, I was Jedi preCU and I was Jedi since NGE on Shamanos, I can obliterate a squad because I WANT TO, not because SOE gave me the power to, what gets to me is that alot of people think PVP's winnable only by awesome equipment and the best damn buffs, NO! You will by being smart, and right now don't accuse me or anyone of ********* your grouping real Jedi and Sith like me with a bunch of kids and thats just pathetic, whine on the forums and beg for an I WINZ key or learn how to play your profession yourself, isn't my fault your too lazy to play.
#24 Jun 25 2007 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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i once killed 3 jedi with my commando, outside of bestine starport, maybe if jedi are nerfed a bit more i can kill 4 or 5 :D

seriously though, jedi are weak enough already, if you cant kill one then you probably need to redo the tutorial a time or two. stop moaning and start learning.

i suppose now i'll hear him say, and its about time they nerfed commando's too :D
#25 Jun 26 2007 at 3:05 AM Rating: Decent
Lets just nerf everything...make a new class called newb and you can only be ithorian. Then we can all just run around and complain because there is nothing to do because of the idiots before us that whined about every damn change.
#26 Jun 26 2007 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
Thats what I thought always have to have the last word or some smart *** remark.. Said it was my opinion GET OVER IT let the damn thread die, JFC
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