Hello!
I am trying to diagnose my problem of this game being an absolute stutter-fest for me, no matter the settings, as being a hardware/software problem, or wither this is just the most I can get out of my hardware. The stutter isen't there is regions of bare landscape, but anywhere with a decent amount of objects it is bad.
I am taking my computer in for diagnosis from my computer shop, and since there is nothing devastatingly obvious wrong with my computer (it runs) I thought the more information I could provide them, the better chance they have to figure out if there is a broken piece of hardware, if the hardware is conflicting, etc.
I was wondering if you out there with similar computer set-ups can comment on how the game runs for you. Also if you have a computer with older/worse hardware, but the game runs smoothly and nicely for you, it would help me figure out if my hardware is experiencing issues.
Here is my setup:
Motherboard: MSI k8n nForce4 AMD SLI
CPU: amd athalon 64 4000+ (1 core @ 2.4ghz)
RAM: 2gb of OCZ DDR ram
GPU: eVga geforce 7900gtx (1 card, no SLI)
Hard Drive: 2x250gb 7200rpm in raid 0 (i've tried the game in non-raid as well)
Sound and ethernet card are onboard
In general I am just wondering what I should be expecting, to see if what I am getting out of my hardware is what I should be.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
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I can play the game at great setting with half the vid card you have. It shouldn't stutter much at all, only at the top two settings if I'm not mistaken.
Not an expert though, perhaps your processor isn't strong enough but I do doubt that.
Not an expert though, perhaps your processor isn't strong enough but I do doubt that.
Zieveraar wrote:
I can play the game at great setting with half the vid card you have. It shouldn't stutter much at all, only at the top two settings if I'm not mistaken.
Not an expert though, perhaps your processor isn't strong enough but I do doubt that.
Not an expert though, perhaps your processor isn't strong enough but I do doubt that.
The CPU should be fine really. I only run a 2ghz CPU and don't get lag like that. Granted it is a core 2 duo which is on par with the AMD FX line, and because it's 2 cores it's like have a 4ghz CPU... but still.
The only thing I can think of is something is bad in your box. Ram being the most likely, followed by video card. Another thing could be if the video card has a low amount of ram you could be overloading the textures... but you said it lagged on any setting and if that was the case it should only lag on higher, which leads me to think bad ram possibly.
What OS are you using? If its Vista, the problem could be the nVidia card(the drivers actually).
I am running Windows XP home (32bit) edition.
I'm not sure if its like having 4ghz processing power. I understand that newer games are able to gain a performance increase from the 2 cores, but I don't think it is that significant. I've seen numbers like 30% increase tossed around forums. I could be entirely wrong about this, and if I am please forgive me.
About the processor however, I ran a benchmark using futuremark's PCMark '05 and got a score around 3900. I was able to compare my score to others on their database. Others with processors like the AMD 3200+, 3500+ who had overclocked to 2.4ghz were getting a 500 point lead over me.
A profile of a computer with the same hardware, but with a overclock to 2.5ghz was getting a score of 4100. I find it interesting how a 100mhz increase could net a 25%+ gain in processing efficiency. This shows that their could be a hardware fault, and I am going to take my computer it to get it checked out by people who know a whole lot more then me!
I thank you all for your assistance and reassurance! I was afraid I would show up at my computer shop and seem like some ignorant computer user who wanted his computer to perform better then it could, and was expecting computer techs to perform miracles. At least now I know I am not just imagining it.
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and because it's 2 cores it's like have a 4ghz CPU... but still.
I'm not sure if its like having 4ghz processing power. I understand that newer games are able to gain a performance increase from the 2 cores, but I don't think it is that significant. I've seen numbers like 30% increase tossed around forums. I could be entirely wrong about this, and if I am please forgive me.
About the processor however, I ran a benchmark using futuremark's PCMark '05 and got a score around 3900. I was able to compare my score to others on their database. Others with processors like the AMD 3200+, 3500+ who had overclocked to 2.4ghz were getting a 500 point lead over me.
A profile of a computer with the same hardware, but with a overclock to 2.5ghz was getting a score of 4100. I find it interesting how a 100mhz increase could net a 25%+ gain in processing efficiency. This shows that their could be a hardware fault, and I am going to take my computer it to get it checked out by people who know a whole lot more then me!
I thank you all for your assistance and reassurance! I was afraid I would show up at my computer shop and seem like some ignorant computer user who wanted his computer to perform better then it could, and was expecting computer techs to perform miracles. At least now I know I am not just imagining it.
What kind of cooling do you have in the box? What do you have running in the background? And what services have you disabled? You will find that there are a ton of resources that you can shut off that will improve gaming performance immensely.
Here are some examples from my XP box and I get little or no lag:
Disabled Services
=================
Application Layer Gateway Service
ASP.NET State Service
ClipBook
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
Fast User Switching Compatibility
Help and Support
InCD Helper
Indexing Service
iPod Service
Messenger
Microsoft Office Diagnostics Service
NBService
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
NMIndexingService
Office Source Engine
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Registry
Telnet
Terminal Services
Themes
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration
Manual Services
===============
.Net Runtime Optimization Service
Application Management
Error Reporting Service
HTTP SSL
IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service
InstallDriver Table Manager
Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service
MS Software Shadow Copy Provider
Net Logon
Network Connections
Network Location Awareness
Network Provisioning Service
NT LM Security Support Provider
Performance Logs and Alerts
Portable Media Serial Number Service
Pure Networks Net2Go Service
QoS RSVP
Secondary Logon
Smart Card
SSDP Discovery Service
Telephony
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Windows Installer
Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions
WMI Performance Adapter
Here are some examples from my XP box and I get little or no lag:
Disabled Services
=================
Application Layer Gateway Service
ASP.NET State Service
ClipBook
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
Fast User Switching Compatibility
Help and Support
InCD Helper
Indexing Service
iPod Service
Messenger
Microsoft Office Diagnostics Service
NBService
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
NMIndexingService
Office Source Engine
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Registry
Telnet
Terminal Services
Themes
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration
Manual Services
===============
.Net Runtime Optimization Service
Application Management
Error Reporting Service
HTTP SSL
IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service
InstallDriver Table Manager
Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service
MS Software Shadow Copy Provider
Net Logon
Network Connections
Network Location Awareness
Network Provisioning Service
NT LM Security Support Provider
Performance Logs and Alerts
Portable Media Serial Number Service
Pure Networks Net2Go Service
QoS RSVP
Secondary Logon
Smart Card
SSDP Discovery Service
Telephony
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Windows Installer
Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions
WMI Performance Adapter
For cooling I pretty much have the typical fan set-up, no fancy water cooling or some such.
The case I have is a thermotek mambo (I believe) which I believe was designed for proper cooling. I purchased my computer from a local computer store who put it all together and they seem to have good tech team that knows what they are doing. I don't believe I am having heating issues. Using the nivida drivers temperature reading my GPU appears to run around 55-57 C during LOTRO.
As for programs running, I have a firewall and a virus scanner, however I unload the fire wall and disable the virus scanner's active scan when playing games.
I'll have to look into removing some more active processes. However I have done so in the past and didn't see much improvement on my system.
Edited, Aug 1st 2007 11:35pm by ddtemplar
The case I have is a thermotek mambo (I believe) which I believe was designed for proper cooling. I purchased my computer from a local computer store who put it all together and they seem to have good tech team that knows what they are doing. I don't believe I am having heating issues. Using the nivida drivers temperature reading my GPU appears to run around 55-57 C during LOTRO.
As for programs running, I have a firewall and a virus scanner, however I unload the fire wall and disable the virus scanner's active scan when playing games.
I'll have to look into removing some more active processes. However I have done so in the past and didn't see much improvement on my system.
Edited, Aug 1st 2007 11:35pm by ddtemplar
ddtemplar wrote:
I am running Windows XP home (32bit) edition.
I'm not sure if its like having 4ghz processing power. I understand that newer games are able to gain a performance increase from the 2 cores, but I don't think it is that significant. I've seen numbers like 30% increase tossed around forums. I could be entirely wrong about this, and if I am please forgive me.
Quote:
and because it's 2 cores it's like have a 4ghz CPU... but still.
I'm not sure if its like having 4ghz processing power. I understand that newer games are able to gain a performance increase from the 2 cores, but I don't think it is that significant. I've seen numbers like 30% increase tossed around forums. I could be entirely wrong about this, and if I am please forgive me.
Well, I said LIKE because it isn't exactly having a 4ghz CPU. However, you have 2 cores running at the same speed, so if the games can take full advantage of the dual cores (multi-threaded) then it is basically the same. If they can't you notice a performance gain anyways because 1 core can be devoted solely to running the game while the other takes care of background applications, which is why you see a small performance gain either way.
Thanks for clarifying that for me Tomec :)
ddtemplar wrote:
Thanks for clarifying that for me Tomec :)
No problem, I'm not 100% sure that I'm right, but that is how I think it is and how I was told in the past.
Here is a link that has been posted many times, i use it to see how my rig will run some of the new game releases.
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com
Look for -
"The Lord of the Rings Online"
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com
Look for -
"The Lord of the Rings Online"
Whitestorm wrote:
Here is a link that has been posted many times, i use it to see how my rig will run some of the new game releases.
[link=http://www.systemrequirementslab.com ]http://www.systemrequirementslab.com
[link=http://www.systemrequirementslab.com ]http://www.systemrequirementslab.com
Unfortunately web pages like that just use software to probe your computer specifications and compare them to the game creator's published minimum/recommended specifications.
I am more interested in how my computer should be performing when running the game in order to diagnosis a possible issue in the hardware, or to figure out if the current performance I am getting is what I should be expecting.
Unfortunately it is hard to find people with the same exact setup of a computer in order to make a comparison with.
I think your missing the point, It will atleast tell you were you stand.
Like wordaen had already said, make sure you take a look at what startup/backround services you have running.
//run >> msconfig
You say its a stutter fest... I am willing to bet its a Softare problem, check what programs/services you have running. (It only takes one bad bug to bring down even the best of rigs)
*Are you running something like Norten while playing?
*Do you have a firewall, if so how many? Do you know what ports you need open?
- Look at things like a Router, Switch/hubs, Virus proction software, hell even Windows firewalls.
I recommend that you part out a Hard drive for just PC games and the like while using a smaller Hard Drive for OS installs/Program files. With the proper securty and access rights you should be able to effectivly utilize CPU resources.
Update the lasted Drivers for your video card.
Clear out your Temp internet files. (It really does help)
Also you may want to look into a sound card and a better N.I.C. 10/100/1000
I have no exp. with those CPUs so ill stay away from saying anything other then...
Upgrade to atleast 3.0ghz+ HT,Core 2 Duo / or a MB that you can over clock that CPU on.
Anyhow i hope these things give you ideas....
BTW im not saying you have any of these problems but they are all worth thinking about.
Like wordaen had already said, make sure you take a look at what startup/backround services you have running.
//run >> msconfig
You say its a stutter fest... I am willing to bet its a Softare problem, check what programs/services you have running. (It only takes one bad bug to bring down even the best of rigs)
*Are you running something like Norten while playing?
*Do you have a firewall, if so how many? Do you know what ports you need open?
- Look at things like a Router, Switch/hubs, Virus proction software, hell even Windows firewalls.
I recommend that you part out a Hard drive for just PC games and the like while using a smaller Hard Drive for OS installs/Program files. With the proper securty and access rights you should be able to effectivly utilize CPU resources.
Update the lasted Drivers for your video card.
Clear out your Temp internet files. (It really does help)
Also you may want to look into a sound card and a better N.I.C. 10/100/1000
I have no exp. with those CPUs so ill stay away from saying anything other then...
Upgrade to atleast 3.0ghz+ HT,Core 2 Duo / or a MB that you can over clock that CPU on.
Anyhow i hope these things give you ideas....
BTW im not saying you have any of these problems but they are all worth thinking about.
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