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I tried farming for the first time yesterday. I enjoy it, and will be doing more.
I had some questions though. Money and seeds are scarce atm so I didn’t want to experiment too much; however, maybe some one of you have tried this already.
a) if you plant a field and it grows, does it disappear by itself after some time, or only if someone harvests it?
b) Is there any bad reason to plant several fields in the same spot? Eg are harvests reduced or does it not matter? I planted up to 5 fields in the same “squareâ€, letting me harvest it one after another once the field “on top†was harvested.
c) If planting one by one, is there any problem with using the same square or does it get used up and I should move over a little bit?
d) I apparently was farming all day and it turned to night. The plants still grew but I seemed to harvest less. Is this the effect of night time or was it just a randomly bad harvest? After that bad harvest, I stopped farming in case night time affects it negatively.
e) One of the farmer NPCs says something about “letting the plants grow longer to yield moreâ€. Is he talking about general planting or is this a clue for player-farmers to get better results?
Prior to actually farming, I was wondering what use the harvesting ability was for, since I picked many herbs around the countryside already. Now I see, the random plants are basically a way to get mats for cooking. (haven’t tried cooking to know what recipes are available).
Edited, Oct 29th 2007 7:18pm by bluegayle
Excellent questions!!!
I want to know too!
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I want to know too!
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I simply replied to each question and bolded it based on what I have seen for myself. Hope it helps.
a) if you plant a field and it grows, does it disappear by itself after some time, or only if someone harvests it?
It will eventually disappear, like any loot item, but you are also the only one who can harvest it as well I believe.
b) Is there any bad reason to plant several fields in the same spot? Eg are harvests reduced or does it not matter? I planted up to 5 fields in the same “squareâ€, letting me harvest it one after another once the field “on top†was harvested.
You can only plant one field at a time. Once the field is ready, you can either harvest it or move on to another field.
c) If planting one by one, is there any problem with using the same square or does it get used up and I should move over a little bit?
You can use the exact same patch over and over. As long as what you are growing is appropriate to the field - i.e. vegetable fields cannot be used for tobacco weed.
d) I apparently was farming all day and it turned to night. The plants still grew but I seemed to harvest less. Is this the effect of night time or was it just a randomly bad harvest? After that bad harvest, I stopped farming in case night time affects it negatively.
I have not heard that night-time produces less yield. I think it is more a random number generator but I don't know for sure.
e) One of the farmer NPCs says something about “letting the plants grow longer to yield moreâ€. Is he talking about general planting or is this a clue for player-farmers to get better results?
I think, although again I am not 100% sure, that this is more NPC dialogue than a "tip". But if I am wrong, I hope a more experienced farmer can expand on that.
bluegayle wrote:
a) if you plant a field and it grows, does it disappear by itself after some time, or only if someone harvests it?
It will eventually disappear, like any loot item, but you are also the only one who can harvest it as well I believe.
b) Is there any bad reason to plant several fields in the same spot? Eg are harvests reduced or does it not matter? I planted up to 5 fields in the same “squareâ€, letting me harvest it one after another once the field “on top†was harvested.
You can only plant one field at a time. Once the field is ready, you can either harvest it or move on to another field.
c) If planting one by one, is there any problem with using the same square or does it get used up and I should move over a little bit?
You can use the exact same patch over and over. As long as what you are growing is appropriate to the field - i.e. vegetable fields cannot be used for tobacco weed.
d) I apparently was farming all day and it turned to night. The plants still grew but I seemed to harvest less. Is this the effect of night time or was it just a randomly bad harvest? After that bad harvest, I stopped farming in case night time affects it negatively.
I have not heard that night-time produces less yield. I think it is more a random number generator but I don't know for sure.
e) One of the farmer NPCs says something about “letting the plants grow longer to yield moreâ€. Is he talking about general planting or is this a clue for player-farmers to get better results?
I think, although again I am not 100% sure, that this is more NPC dialogue than a "tip". But if I am wrong, I hope a more experienced farmer can expand on that.
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a) if you plant a field and it grows, does it disappear by itself after some time, or only if someone harvests it?
It will disappear after time. I think the most I have 'risked' planting was 4 fields while still harvesting all. I have planted a field and 'walked away' to see what happens and it poofed.
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b) Is there any bad reason to plant several fields in the same spot? Eg are harvests reduced or does it not matter? I planted up to 5 fields in the same “squareâ€, letting me harvest it one after another once the field “on top†was harvested.
I do not think it matters, but being superstituous, if I get 2 bad yields in a row, I move!
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c) If planting one by one, is there any problem with using the same square or does it get used up and I should move over a little bit?
I usually use the same square, plant->harvest->plant->harvest, subject to above.
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d) I apparently was farming all day and it turned to night. The plants still grew but I seemed to harvest less. Is this the effect of night time or was it just a randomly bad harvest? After that bad harvest, I stopped farming in case night time affects it negatively.
I do not think time-of-day affects yield, otherwise do mushrooms grow better at night? Fun to speculate but I have not observed any difference.
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e) One of the farmer NPCs says something about “letting the plants grow longer to yield moreâ€. Is he talking about general planting or is this a clue for player-farmers to get better results?
I have not noticed any difference in yield by waiting to harvest a field.
What does makes a BIG difference is mastering a tier and using the crit Soils. ALWAYS do this unless you want seeds. Some seeds are not sold by NPCs so you might want to increase your chance for poor bushels by not using crit soils.
After I mastered a tier I would almost never glean seeds from poor bushels, if those seeds were sold by NPCs. Seeds only cost 4cp and it takes a LONG time to get ONE seed from a bushel hehe. Unless I needed the craft points, I sold the poor bushels. I don't even buy the seed recipes anymore if the seeds are sold by NPCs.
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 10:41am by Dottiel
Well I ran across various plants with my other characters this weekend. I didn't realize it was a 'crop' so I tried to pick it, thinking it might be for some quest.
When I didn't get a quest confirmation, I realized, it must be a random crop.
So then I tried to pick up something that i know is a crop (eg, onion, tater, berry, etc).
What I learned is that, apparently, any class/tradeskill can pick these random world crops. It's the farmer who gets the tracking ability.
However, due to the amount of food you can make by farming, versus what you can get by gathering, even with 2-5 extra characters harvesting as they roam around, it's still more feasible to depend on farming to supply your cook.
So in conclusion, giving every one the ability to pick herbs (as opposed to not being able to cut wood or mine ore) doesn't actually seem to help much for your cooking character.
Tracking comes into play for rare stuff like dye components which are crops but cannot be cultivated by farmers or purchased from NPCs
Stuff like:
Yarrow Root
Woad Plant
Indigo Plant
You are correct, anyone can pick these random crop nodes but only farmers can track them.
Stuff like:
Yarrow Root
Woad Plant
Indigo Plant
You are correct, anyone can pick these random crop nodes but only farmers can track them.
Scholar
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The thing about the time. I think that if you leave it long enough you get a better crop. Once i just did farming and then harvested it straight away and i got more poor seeds then the fair ones. But when i waited for about 20-30 seconds i got a lot more fair bushels. This could be a random thing but I think the time does make a difference.
Just wanted to add that, when you get to the level for Green Onion and Blueberries, it's good to grow them, as long as you don't need some other product for cooking.
When you harvest green onion, you have the chance to get onion skin, and when you harvest blueberries, you have the chance for blueberry juice (or something like that). Both are used in crafting and are good to have (for your use or to sell off).
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Just wanted to know where u get the seeds? there is a lack of info on this game as far as professions go. Wish Turbine would add more info to their site.
My notes from grinding out farming....
Same spot seems to work fine, no difference between spots nor times of day. Each harvest is subject to the same random variations imo. They will go away semi quickly, I think about less than 5 minutes. I remember going afk for a mintue or two andcoming back to no crop.
I went
Carrots
Taters
Cauliflower
Raspberries
Carrots and Taters sold pretty well, cauliflower and raspberries were mdeiocre. I second the advice to go after green onions and blueberries, but know that alot of people are too.
If you are growing for $$$'s, toss any poor bushels you get, it's definitely not worth the time to convert 5 for another 5 seeds unless they are hard to find. Most are so ridiculously cheap that you should just buy them. If you can't afford the 2s for a stack of 50, you've got bigger problems.
So far, the best crop I've had is carrots in terms of AH selling. Any others that stand out? How do the pipe-weeds compare?
Same spot seems to work fine, no difference between spots nor times of day. Each harvest is subject to the same random variations imo. They will go away semi quickly, I think about less than 5 minutes. I remember going afk for a mintue or two andcoming back to no crop.
I went
Carrots
Taters
Cauliflower
Raspberries
Carrots and Taters sold pretty well, cauliflower and raspberries were mdeiocre. I second the advice to go after green onions and blueberries, but know that alot of people are too.
If you are growing for $$$'s, toss any poor bushels you get, it's definitely not worth the time to convert 5 for another 5 seeds unless they are hard to find. Most are so ridiculously cheap that you should just buy them. If you can't afford the 2s for a stack of 50, you've got bigger problems.
So far, the best crop I've had is carrots in terms of AH selling. Any others that stand out? How do the pipe-weeds compare?
to jbat:
You need to find the farming supplier that is near each of the groupings of fields. There is one just about on the "D" of the word "STADDLE" on your map of Bree-Land. He will sell you recipes and the seeds you need. You buy one recipe for planting, one for turning the poor crop back into seeds, and one for turning the fair crop into actual product.
After you pass the first 3 tiers, you need to travel to the Shire to find the master farmer, Oldo or Odo or something like that. Take the road north out of Hobbiton and he will be on the right hand side. He will sell you what you need to the Artisan level and higher. Obviously, the mats become more expensive, but still nothing compared to the price you can sell them for.
And for the love of Bob, have someone make you the better version of the farm tools. That 1 sec makes a huge difference after 70 or 80 plantings.
You need to find the farming supplier that is near each of the groupings of fields. There is one just about on the "D" of the word "STADDLE" on your map of Bree-Land. He will sell you recipes and the seeds you need. You buy one recipe for planting, one for turning the poor crop back into seeds, and one for turning the fair crop into actual product.
After you pass the first 3 tiers, you need to travel to the Shire to find the master farmer, Oldo or Odo or something like that. Take the road north out of Hobbiton and he will be on the right hand side. He will sell you what you need to the Artisan level and higher. Obviously, the mats become more expensive, but still nothing compared to the price you can sell them for.
And for the love of Bob, have someone make you the better version of the farm tools. That 1 sec makes a huge difference after 70 or 80 plantings.
there is at least one seed i know about that isn't sold by vendors. the sweet lobelia seed.
the vendor sells the recipe for growing it and harvesting it (into more seeds, i guess) but the first seeds you get are dropped or found in chests. or, of course, check AH if someone is selling theirs.
i had minor luck selling the potweed. i think it was related to someone who went through and bought a bunch for him or his friends doing some activity...before and after that, it seems hard to sell the potweed.
Scholar
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Vegetables sell pretty fast on the AH but don;t sell that much but if you can make a stack of 50 every 5 minutes you can get some serious money. Just remember that farming does consume a lot of your time.
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